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Awesome, I'll give that a shot. Do you know if 59.5ns is about normal for what I'm getting?
It should be slightly lower but many things can affect it including wifi, I turn mine off for testing. The best tuned kit with samsung rams can go as low as around 50-52ns but you'll need to manually adjust your ram timings to get that far.
 

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It should be slightly lower but many things can affect it including wifi, I turn mine off for testing. The best tuned kit with samsung rams can go as low as around 50-52ns but you'll need to manually adjust your ram timings to get that far.
I don't use WiFi, I have a 2Gb lan connection with 1Gb fiber internet. My RAM is Samsung B-die. I was mistaken on my latency, I said 59.5ns, but I got that result from Userbenchmark. I just ran Aida64 and it's reporting 89.1. Uhh, that's horrible lol! My timings are 16-16-16-36 at 1800Mhz which is 1:1 with my infinity fabric. How would I go about tightening that up to get a lower latency? Honestly, I'm doing this cause I don't want to leave any performance on the table. I was able to OC my GPU to 2GHz. In benchmarks, my RTX 3080 ti is performing on par/sometimes better than a RTX 3090. My CPU at 4.8GHz barely goes above 60c. I know that has no baring on the RAM latency. It seems my RAM is the only holdout. I bought this RAM specifically since it has Samsung B-Die and is highly rated.
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Well this is a bit of an improvement.
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You will need aim for the lowest trfc possible. Try 252, trfc2 187 trfc4 116, maybe you need to bump up your voltage, trfc scales with voltage on b die and you can go to 1.5 safe daily. Install zen timings it's better to see values of dram
 
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Memory/RAM performance got major uplift... Usually before BIOS update... when I was on 316 .. memory benchmark was the latest thing I managed on AIDA64 is:-

47845 Reads

49352 Write

43655 Copy

80.1 Latency


My RAM Tuning got unstable after the new update unfortunately previously it was CL18 (18-19-19-36) but after the new BIOS update.. I settled with CL20 (20-19-19-31) but surprisingly I got significantly more performance even with worst RAM timings due to new BIOS so I guess they did a great job on that. I will continue tweaking my RAM timing more in the future once I get free time... hopefully I can achieve my previous ram timing.

Anyway here's a screenshot of my AIDA64 Memory Benchmark on new BIOS ... it is really significant compared to my previous result on old BIOS.
1648061476031.png

1648061504218.jpeg


I think I have beaten some desktop CPU's or even newer Mobile CPU's on Memory performance, I am quite happy about what the new BIOS update provided. Of course all of this won't happen without Thaiphoon Burner since it allows me to tweak RAM timing and get those sweet performance. Here is the image on there own official ASUS website about the new BIOS update description... just 2 lines .... :rolleyes:
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From my second system on specs:
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Can do 3100 MHz at CL14 with slightly better latencies but inferior bandwidth:
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Update: It seems 3200 MHz CL14 is rock stable as well on my second PC as on specs. Tested stability with Memtest64 with 27000 MB of RAM and AIDA64 Memory stress test utilizing 97% memory for 1 hour each.
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Got an Intel NUC X15 laptop, I don't think there is any way to change timings at all, anyone have ideas? No timing adjustment or gear mode setting.
ASROCK timing configurator wont launch, ASUS MemTweakIt is blank, Intel XTU has no options.
Can't seem to be able to disable the bios write protect to flash a modded bios (IFR Extractor + AMISrtupWriter)... Not that I want to actually do that really.

I was able to load XMP and then manually increase the multiplier up one to go from 3200 to 3466 and it continued using the 3200 XMP timings.

Any suggestions on something that could work, just in case I missed something?
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Got my tRFC down to 160ns which is pretty good for DR.

Completely stable, haven't done another AIDA since last time.
 
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Finally got my hands on some B-die not DR like I wanted but its a start. Next will tune it for 3600 CL14 :D
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ZenTimings_Screenshot PV4400 3200 CL14.png


Got 3600 CL16 to run finally.
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I'm on my kids PC right now, its running my Black and Whites that I hadn't tested on their own. So far so good. This is daily stable with 1.45v. And because its a quiet pc.. those mems hit 40c after a gaming session with him. Mine barely touch the mid 30s, unless I run the fans on the silent profile. With iPPC silence is the "power off" profile.

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Windows 11 for the excellent L3 performance :sleep:

Edit:

Turns out the Black and Whites are decent too :cool:

Not sure what they can do yet, I am going to bed shortly. Tomorrow is my Friday so I will play more later :)

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Some further results from my first B-Die Kit.
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Memory/RAM performance got major uplift... Usually before BIOS update... when I was on 316 .. memory benchmark was the latest thing I managed on AIDA64 is:-

47845 Reads

49352 Write

43655 Copy

80.1 Latency


My RAM Tuning got unstable after the new update unfortunately previously it was CL18 (18-19-19-36) but after the new BIOS update.. I settled with CL20 (20-19-19-31) but surprisingly I got significantly more performance even with worst RAM timings due to new BIOS so I guess they did a great job on that. I will continue tweaking my RAM timing more in the future once I get free time... hopefully I can achieve my previous ram timing.

Anyway here's a screenshot of my AIDA64 Memory Benchmark on new BIOS ... it is really significant compared to my previous result on old BIOS.
View attachment 241009
View attachment 241010

I think I have beaten some desktop CPU's or even newer Mobile CPU's on Memory performance, I am quite happy about what the new BIOS update provided. Of course all of this won't happen without Thaiphoon Burner since it allows me to tweak RAM timing and get those sweet performance. Here is the image on there own official ASUS website about the new BIOS update description... just 2 lines .... :rolleyes:
View attachment 241011
A follow up compared to my previous post to my hard earned effort to squeeze more performance :cool:

Managed to increase my RAM performance a little more thanks for fine tuning secondary and tertiary ram timing :) I think I am hitting a hard limit consistently here :)

Some screenshots... ;)
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I will keep pushing until I can hit much more hard limit, to be continued.... :rolleyes:
 
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Close to getting under 60ns
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Close to getting under 60ns
Can you push 1833 or 1866 fclk? Your ram timings look pretty tight so idk if you'd gain anything from a small oc. Also test with as little sw running as possible and turn off wifi it might give you that little bit extra.
 
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Can you push 1833 or 1866 fclk? Your ram timings look pretty tight so idk if you'd gain anything from a small oc. Also test with as little sw running as possible and turn off wifi it might give you that little bit extra.
3600 Dual channel is the Max I could achieve with my 1700X with this Samsung BDie kit. The issue is probably with my IMC.
Yes I am fully aware of having almost nothing running in the background and disabling internet access. Makes a difference in results especially Latency. Have been doing all my runs like this with my HWBOT submissions.

I was able to get 1833 fclk with Mircon E Die Kit
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