Intel Teases Arc Desktop Graphics Card

[noel_fs]

june, knew it...

welp, av1 encoding, there is no way im getting anything from amd/intel until this launches

 

[swirl09]

2 years behind schedule and competing with products due to be replaced in about 10 or so minutes after these things finally get on the shelves. Cool.

 

[noel_fs]

2 years behind schedule and competing with products due to be replaced in about 10 or so minutes after these things finally get on the shelves. Cool.

i dont think its 2 years behind schedule tho, iirc intel started poaching amd people around 2019?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

We'll see....................................

 

[AusWolf]

This is a cheap knock-off. Here's the real deal all the way from 2020:

 

[SL2]

This is a cheap knock-off. Here's the real deal all the way from 2020:

lol the heavy danish accent makes it so much better.

 

[mastrdrver]

You know, there's always been the joke of Intel and drivers, and it's not a recent joke. It goes back to 2000 and the last time Intel tried to make a discrete GPU.

 

[AceKingSuited]

If their top card is $499 and as good as a 3060/6600 it will sell like hotcakes used when McDonalds was undisputed.

LOL, what?? The 3060/6600 will be lower than $499 when these come out if the current pricing trend continues as it is going. If you have been paying attention, GPU prices are only 20%-30% above MSRP and will keep dropping to MSRP by the time these come out. AMD's 6600XT is $379 and the 3060Ti is $399 so how are these competitive at $499 for similar performance without FSR/DLSS?

I don't see how these will be competitive at all with the current gen not to mention the next gen in a few months. They would have been alright 6 months ago during the peak of the supply crunch but we are near the end of it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Still thinking this is just another larrabee...

I'm not. Intel has invested way too much into this product line to just let it die. To me this looks very promising.

Looks like the air as to go down around and back up from the card, which i can see might be good to moving all the air and cooling the back plate to possibly ?.

I see what you're saying. That has happened on other card cooler designs and it was never a problem. Time will tell, but my guess is that it's not going to be a problem.

 

[Crackong]

Vapourware is stillllllllllll vapourware

 

[aQi]

Well this gfx may utilise the potential of ATX 3.0 and 12pin connector. Perhaps not rendered but it will require one.

 

[Lew Zealand]

This. Intel's drivers are sparse as far as fine-grained controls, but they have always been rock solid stable, with very few exceptions.

I've played loads of games on Intel iGPUs, just did earlier today and can agree. I've seen no instability, certainly no more than Nvidia and AMD and I mess with UV, UC, OC on all that support each feature.

However Intel drivers sometimes do stupid things like this:

When playing Rocket League, as you load each arena, AMD and Nvidia drivers do not recompile the shaders, but Intel drivers do. Every effing time. Kill the CPU to 100% usage for the first part of the match with associated fps dips. It's done in 40 seconds on a 3.6GHz quad core, annoying but almost tolerable. It's finished in 5 minutes (!) on a dual core 2.9GHz whch was running at about 2.3 thanks to power restriction. The matches only last ~7 minutes!

New match and it starts again. Tested on a half dozen Intel iGPUs. This is broken. Nvidia and AMD compile shaders once as you load in to the initial 3D rendered pre-match screen and then you're done until quitting the game.

Broken on Intel.

 

[Bwaze]

I still think "Limited Edition" is all we will see of the first generation high end ARC discrete graphics cards.

They have a lot of catching up to do (in hardware and software), so rather than risking a wide release with many dissatisfied customers the first generation will go to select buyers that will understand they are part of beta testing.

But they will prepare low end cards with GPUs on par with integrated graphics, sell them to partners for preassembled PCs, so they could claim to shareholders they are releasing ARC graphics cards in all areas, notebooks and desktop PCs.

 

[InVasMani]

Why must they always orientate the fin structure to dump the heat right into the PC case!!? The exception to that rule are blower design and fanless compute cards, but like almost all top down cooler solutions are setup to exhaust the heat from the fins right into the PC case I mean why must they virtually all do that!!? I've seen a few rare instances when they don't, but the overwhelming majority do it. Enjoy your complimentary ambient GPU waste hate CPU and VRM's. It's a shame cases haven't been setup to mount the GPU right at the top of the case and exhaust that heat right out the top because heat is going to rise anyway.

 

[Yttersta]

Intel doesn't expect these to compete well and sell in large amounts; hence the limited edition designation. Rumors are 3070 level performance with bad drivers and nothing like DLSS or FSR; these will sell in very low numbers. It's good for us consumers as it will push the prices down for the cards we really want, lol.

These will make great HW accelerators Possibly the best price/performance non-gaming cards in that matter, throw in one to a workstation and good to go for years to come. I look forward to them but then availability will be low too.

 

[ratirt]

I'm really thinking about buying Intel's graphics creation and see how it runs. I'm really looking forward to this. Something tells me there will be several glitches at the start but surely these glitches will be fixed and if the price is right (considering market price craze), might be worth to give it a shot and buy Intel. It doesnt have to be as fast as AMD and Nvidia top cards.

 

[TheLostSwede]

They forgot to render the power jacks.

Yes, I mentioned that...

Well to me it looks a lot more air restrictive than some XFX cards right now ha.

EDIT:
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If you look carefully, you'll see that the card has the same cutout on the opposite site, so that is most likely not where the power connector resides.

 

[usiname]

Does people keep believe in 3070 performance for the 512eu desktop card after they saw the cherry picked busted result by Intel on A370m?

 

[GoldenX]

Where's the Vulkan 1.3 driver, Intel? And the Elden Ring release date driver?
You can't have a competing gaming GPU if you still don't focus on driver development...

 

[Vayra86]

I still think "Limited Edition" is all we will see of the first generation high end ARC discrete graphics cards.

They have a lot of catching up to do (in hardware and software), so rather than risking a wide release with many dissatisfied customers the first generation will go to select buyers that will understand they are part of beta testing.

But they will prepare low end cards with GPUs on par with integrated graphics, sell them to partners for preassembled PCs, so they could claim to shareholders they are releasing ARC graphics cards in all areas, notebooks and desktop PCs.

I think the timing of this 'Limited Edition' is having a direct relation to the fact that GPU prices are returning to sanity, that is, starting to return to it.

That trend will continue and Intel will pile onto it further, which kills any sort of profit margin to release anything that isn't truly competitive, and let's face it, going by the absence of performance info, this whole Arc gen is going to be a total dud.

I also think its totally Raja-Style to bank on heavily inflated market prices to release something worthwhile. It really is Vega all over again. Overpromise, underdeliver, time to market fail. Even the absence of info and the timing alone is enough to draw this conclusion right now, today.

 

[AusWolf]

Why must they always orientate the fin structure to dump the heat right into the PC case!!? The exception to that rule are blower design and fanless compute cards, but like almost all top down cooler solutions are setup to exhaust the heat from the fins right into the PC case I mean why must they virtually all do that!!? I've seen a few rare instances when they don't, but the overwhelming majority do it. Enjoy your complimentary ambient GPU waste hate CPU and VRM's. It's a shame cases haven't been setup to mount the GPU right at the top of the case and exhaust that heat right out the top because heat is going to rise anyway.

With this orientation, you can fill all your PCB area with heatsink fins using as many straight heatpipes as you need to transfer the heat. If you wanted to use longitudinal fins, you'd have to curve your heatpipes, losing PCB real estate. The more heatpipes you use that way, the more space their curvature will take - space that you could use for dissipating the heat otherwise.

With that said, I do miss coolers that vented the graphics card's heat right out of your case, like this one.

I think the timing of this 'Limited Edition' is having a direct relation to the fact that GPU prices are returning to sanity, that is, starting to return to it.

That trend will continue and Intel will pile onto it further, which kills any sort of profit margin to release anything that isn't truly competitive, and let's face it, going by the absence of performance info, this whole Arc gen is going to be a total dud.

I also think its totally Raja-Style to bank on heavily inflated market prices to release something worthwhile. It really is Vega all over again. Overpromise, underdeliver, time to market fail. Even the absence of info and the timing alone is enough to draw this conclusion right now, today.

I would agree if I saw Intel actually overpromise with Arc. For now, all I see is numbers that can only compete in the mainstream segment (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), and XeSS which currently has zero support from game developers as far as I know. This is hardly an overpromise, or even a promise at all.

I'm still eagerly waiting for the first reviews, though.

 

[Octavean]

Intel, wake me when you’ve got something I can buy at retail for a nominal fee that can compete with nVidia and AMD.

 

[kapone32]

LOL, what?? The 3060/6600 will be lower than $499 when these come out if the current pricing trend continues as it is going. If you have been paying attention, GPU prices are only 20%-30% above MSRP and will keep dropping to MSRP by the time these come out. AMD's 6600XT is $379 and the 3060Ti is $399 so how are these competitive at $499 for similar performance without FSR/DLSS?

I don't see how these will be competitive at all with the current gen not to mention the next gen in a few months. They would have been alright 6 months ago during the peak of the supply crunch but we are near the end of it.

I am talking in Canadian dollars where are 6600 is $589 at the cheapest a 6600XT is $700+. The only new card under $300 is the 6500XT with the MSI (Always cheapest) being a new low of $279.99

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[MxPhenom 216]

Intel doesn't expect these to compete well and sell in large amounts; hence the limited edition designation. Rumors are 3070 level performance with bad drivers and nothing like DLSS or FSR; these will sell in very low numbers. It's good for us consumers as it will push the prices down for the cards we really want, lol.

They are expecting them to sell in low numbers, but also planning to ship millions of them? Which one is it?

Intel doesn't expect these to compete well and sell in large amounts; hence the limited edition designation. Rumors are 3070 level performance with bad drivers and nothing like DLSS or FSR; these will sell in very low numbers. It's good for us consumers as it will push the prices down for the cards we really want, lol.

Also, bad drivers? hmmm probably not. Their iGPU drivers aren't terrible, nothing special about them, but they are stable.

You do seem rather fixated on hoping Intel fails at Discrete GPUs which is a shame.

 

[zo0lykas]

simple, if we use the search menu and see how many times intel teased they GPU, pages never ends..