AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

[Crackong]

I think a typical 5800x could do 4.7GHz at 1.35v ?
Further optimization Please ?

 

[chrcoluk]

Somewhat underwhelming on non gaming workloads, but will praise AMD for not going black edition route.

 

[Xebec]

I think a typical 5800x could do 4.7GHz at 1.35v ?
Further optimization Please ?

5800X will hit 1.40-1.45 volt typically when boosting to 4.7 GHz for light workloads

 

[SeventhReign]

How in Gods name can you possibly recommend this??????????
Its literally SLOWER than a standard 5800x in EVERYTHING except gaming, and its BARELY any faster in games!!!! What are you people smoking??

 

[Deleted member 24505]

2.5% faster than my 12700k, balls i should have waited and got one of these /s

 

[Totally]

How in Gods name can you possibly recommend this??????????
Its literally SLOWER than a standard 5800x in EVERYTHING except gaming, and its BARELY any faster in games!!!! What are you people smoking??

Same thing I'm seeing. Shame, was hoping that this chip was going to surprise me.

5900X, is the lowkey star, now at $400, is $50 cheaper to boot.

Going that route comes in 12% cheaper, 50% more cores and higher clocks which translates to 20% more perf in productivity and 7% less in gaming....and you can still OC if you are into that, 2c.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I'm still amazed at the efficiency of the 5800X for the performance. And the the 3700X literally sips power. I have no regrets getting the 5800X but I can't wait for Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake; It will be a lot closer than may think. Even AMD says Zen4 is the biggest change to the Zen architecture since release and we will see bigger performance jumps from Zen 3 to Zen 4 than we had with Zen2 to Zen 3. Add in the possibility of v-cache for multiple SKU's it's looking good for AMD. I have a n old Zen 1700X looking for an upgrade next year so will be interesting to see whether it'll be Zen 4 or Raptor Lake.

 

[simlife]

a bit odd as a negative for a cpu that cost as much as entire next gen consoles(so a entire pc) for not having a weak interaged gpu... if you can afford this cpu you dont need a igpu even just for testing you can buy or have a old one... a + was its on 7nm? wtf you know 7 nm has been out for many many years its not really a pro because cards in 2019 had that...

 

[Aretak]

How in Gods name can you possibly recommend this??????????
Its literally SLOWER than a standard 5800x in EVERYTHING except gaming, and its BARELY any faster in games!!!! What are you people smoking??

Yeah, it's absolutely baffling that people are interested in the gaming performance of a chip that's entirely focused and marketed around gaming.

It's a lot faster than the 5800X in some games, and anyone who cares about productivity would (or should) be buying a 5900X or a 5950X anyway. If people just want a gaming CPU, this is the best one around. If that's not a use case which interests you, why are you here wasting your time reading a review of a CPU marketed towards gamers, friendo? Can products not exist which are for other people, or are you so arrogant that you think anything you're not personally interested in must be garbage?

 

[Crackong]

5800X will hit 1.40-1.45 volt typically when boosting to 4.7 GHz for light workloads

I mean some fine tuning.
5800X boosting to 4.7 with 1.45v is just a result of AMD doing a 'safe setting' for all 5800X chips with varies silicon quality.
In PBO a good 5800X could hit 5.0 with the same voltage

And the 5800X3D are supposed to use the best binned silicon to cooped with the 3D cache.
So I won't be surprised the 5800x part of it can hit 4.7-4.8 with 1.35v

 

[Akkedie]

Please, can you test games with RT at 720p? It's maddening how ignored this test scenario is but in fact it's the most relevant one given how much of a beating RT puts on CPUs, and it's in fact settings you'd use. It's for me the only reason I need more CPU power.

 

[Totally]

Yeah, it's absolutely baffling that people are interested in the gaming performance of a chip that's entirely focused and marketed around gaming.

It's a lot faster than the 5800X in some games, and anyone who cares about productivity would (or should) be buying a 5900X or a 5950X anyway. If people just want a gaming CPU, this is the best one around. If that's not a use case which interests you, why are you here wasting your time reading a review of a CPU marketed towards gamers, friendo? Can products not exist which are for other people, or are you so arrogant that you think anything you're not personally interested in must be garbage?

It's not baffling, the 5600X exists. So only considering gaming,who in their right mind would pay more than double for a 10% increase in gaming performance? So it's not baffling for people to expect it to be more well-rounded.

 

[Pastuch]

I can't wait to see Warzone benchmarks! I seriously think this will sell like hot cakes if the memory performance scales in Warzone like it does in Far Cry and Shadow of the Tombraider. Warzone may be the most memory latency and performance demanding game on the market because everyone that plays it is CPU limited, even with a 3080 at 1080p. I have a 280hz monitor, if replacing my 5600x with a 5800x3d gives me 35% more frames I would go from 190 fps average to around 250 fps average. I have the new Alienware 34 inch QD-OLED coming in June and based on performance testing I've done in Warzone, even at 3440x1440p I am CPU limited with a 5600x.

My 5600x is running insanely tight Samsung Bdie, AIDA of 53.4ns (4x8), dual rank is better for Warzone. Highs are around 240 fps, average around 195, lows around 170.

 

[igniz]

This site is total crap, another userbenchmark 2.0 insight, even thought they tried hard to gimped 5800X3D performance by pairing 3600 ram with very bad timings, they don't even mention that in order to match 5800X3D performance you will need to spend $800 for the KS, $400 for new DDR5 6000, $300 for a decent Z690 and another $180 for a 360 decent cooler. do your math, can you imagine?

 

[mechtech]

As always a nicely done and thorough review

Well interesting attempt for more performance by increasing the cache size.
-good for 1080p
-diminishing returns 1440p
-basically no difference at 2160p
-minimal changes on non-gaming apps

Feedback for @W1zzard
-top right corner of charts - perhaps bold or darken "higher or lower is better" so it stands out more?
-top of game charts - perhaps add the game engine & version the game is using beside the game title?

Borderlands 3 seems to really love that cache - I wonder if games built on the same game engine would also benefit from the extra cache - and if other game engines could be coded to take advantage of a larger cache it in the future??

Also one more thing, I see a lot of games like satifactory, factorio, sub-nautica, planet builder, etc. becoming popluar with most having overwhelmingly positive reviews on steam. Any plans in the future to include one of these games in the reviews?

I am looking forward to the 5600 and 5500 to see how they compare!!

 

[evernessince]

I feel like it should be pointed out that the Intel platform includes a $700 motherboard where as the AMD platform uses a $140 one. I believe you can squeeze a bit more performance out of a higher end motherboard on the AMD side. Can't say I'd ever spend $700 on a motherboard.

So basically its about 3-4% faster in games than a 12700f, but gets absolutely creamed in everything else (single thread, multithread, upgradability) while also costing 50% more? Woah, thats just a bad product. Needs a big pricecut to 300-350. At 450 its a joke

Uh, half of 450 is 225 and not 375. How did you come up with the idea the 12700F is 50% cheaper? It's not even close. Including platform costs a 5800X3D and 12700F will end up costing similar amounts. In essence it's top of the line gaming performance. For people who want that, it's a heck of a lot cheaper option than a 12900K.

Can't say I'll buy it as I value an all rounder (including power efficiency) but I can definitely see it's market.

 

[RedBear]

Congratulations and thanks for the early review. For what it's worth I'm mostly curious about the long term availability of this part, considering it's coming late in the life of the AM4 platform and it's relatively expensive, but at this point I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm very much looking forward to the reviews of the 5600 and 5700X.

 

[Ruru]

Trades blows with with 12900KS "Emergency Edition" from game to game so good that they truly delivered what they promised. The pricing is kinda meh, but as it's first of its kind, I guess it's reasonable.

On the other hand,12900KS has the price premium over the regular SKU and that's marketed as a "gaming CPU" as well.

 

[Why_Me]

Unless I already owned an AMD board, I'd opt for the less expensive 12700 / 12700F ($310) or the 12700K / 12700KF.

 

[mahoney]

If only this thing cost 300€. Wizz how much did you pay for it?

 

[Ruru]

Unless I already owned an AMD board, I'd opt for the less expensive 12700 / 12700F ($310) or the 12700K / 12700KF.

Yeah, I see no sense for getting a new board just to get this. But I'd see this more as an upgrade for existing AM4 users.

 

[Why_Me]

Nice processor if you want to game at 720p/1080p

This ^^

Hmm, would putting something like 3800cl16 increase the performance..? Would be fair given that ddr5 kit is pretty top-notch while the ddr4 kit is pretty slow for todays standards.

DDR5 has shown to be slower than DDR4 in regards to gaming.

 

[Ruru]

DDR5 has shown to be slower than DDR4 in regards to gaming.

Isn't this always the thing when a new RAM generation is released, after few years with faster modules, the newer generation starts to show off its potential.

 

[Mussels]

Part of me says "get this. now."

And then i realise... i'm never CPU limited by games, as it is.

Yes, but the CPU can't run DDR4-3800 at 1:1, max FCLK is 1866 MHz

Could you try 3200 CL14, to see if lower latency helps the Vcache?

Well you all look Avg FPS , look at the framepacing this CPU is delivering the smoothest frametimes and has 99.9%th higher than the average framerates of most of the other CPUs. Which means it is delivering the smoothest gameplay with less hickups no matter the resolution or the GPU.

This. Those graphs take time to interpret, but it looks like its smashing head to head with the 12900K, with lower power usage, temps, and price... so that's quite a winner

So basically its about 3-4% faster in games than a 12700f, but gets absolutely creamed in everything else (single thread, multithread, upgradability) while also costing 50% more? Woah, thats just a bad product. Needs a big pricecut to 300-350. At 450 its a joke

It's a gaming chip. Its made for gaming.

Oh lordy no the 8 core CPU is getting creamed in multi threaded tests...by a 16 core chip.
Well... duh?

 

[SirMaster]

Anyone know how this CPU performs for emulation like dolphin, cemu, yuzu, ryujinx?

Wonder how it would end up with something like 3800 14-14-14-28 memory in games as well.