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System Name | Custom Watercooled |
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Processor | 10900k 5.1GHz SSE 5.0GHz AVX |
Motherboard | Asus Maximus XIII hero z590 |
Cooling | XSPC Raystorm Pro, XSPC D5 Vario, EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple Fan) Radiator |
Memory | Team Group 8Pack RIPPED Edition TDPPD416G3600HC14CDC01 @ DDR4-4000 CL15 Dual Rank 4x8GB (32GB) |
Video Card(s) | KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 Ti SG 1-Click OC 12GB LHR GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card |
Storage | WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C) |
Display(s) | LG 3D TV 32LW450U-ZB and Samsung U28D590 |
Case | Full Tower Case |
Audio Device(s) | ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4082, ESS SABRE9018Q2C DAC/AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1000 Titanium 80 Plus Titanium Power Supply |
Mouse | Logitech G502SE |
Keyboard | Logitech Y-BP62a |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/2rdbdl https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27927340 https://ibb.co/YjQFw5t |
Linux is likely the OS.In a review of the new "GAMING focussed AMD RYZEN R7 5800X3D " why would you choose to test 38 applications and only 10 games?
This defies common sense and logic !
It should have been 38 games tested and only 10 applications !
Maybe I missed something ? Confused ?
System Name | Custom Watercooled |
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Processor | 10900k 5.1GHz SSE 5.0GHz AVX |
Motherboard | Asus Maximus XIII hero z590 |
Cooling | XSPC Raystorm Pro, XSPC D5 Vario, EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple Fan) Radiator |
Memory | Team Group 8Pack RIPPED Edition TDPPD416G3600HC14CDC01 @ DDR4-4000 CL15 Dual Rank 4x8GB (32GB) |
Video Card(s) | KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 Ti SG 1-Click OC 12GB LHR GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card |
Storage | WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C) |
Display(s) | LG 3D TV 32LW450U-ZB and Samsung U28D590 |
Case | Full Tower Case |
Audio Device(s) | ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4082, ESS SABRE9018Q2C DAC/AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1000 Titanium 80 Plus Titanium Power Supply |
Mouse | Logitech G502SE |
Keyboard | Logitech Y-BP62a |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/2rdbdl https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27927340 https://ibb.co/YjQFw5t |
Must be interested in productivity applications and some gaming.Nope, it says in test setup used win11.
Maybe somebody just wants to see what apps will benefit from 3D V cache ?
I still wonder what the logic is behind it?
It just doesn't make any sense to me other than, think coincidence - think again !
He is Clearly not talking about Phoronix....Linux is likely the OS.
What apps?Or highlight the fact that 12900k will crush it at apps !
System Name | Custom Watercooled |
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Processor | 10900k 5.1GHz SSE 5.0GHz AVX |
Motherboard | Asus Maximus XIII hero z590 |
Cooling | XSPC Raystorm Pro, XSPC D5 Vario, EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple Fan) Radiator |
Memory | Team Group 8Pack RIPPED Edition TDPPD416G3600HC14CDC01 @ DDR4-4000 CL15 Dual Rank 4x8GB (32GB) |
Video Card(s) | KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 Ti SG 1-Click OC 12GB LHR GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card |
Storage | WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C) |
Display(s) | LG 3D TV 32LW450U-ZB and Samsung U28D590 |
Case | Full Tower Case |
Audio Device(s) | ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4082, ESS SABRE9018Q2C DAC/AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1000 Titanium 80 Plus Titanium Power Supply |
Mouse | Logitech G502SE |
Keyboard | Logitech Y-BP62a |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/2rdbdl https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27927340 https://ibb.co/YjQFw5t |
PPL work and play some games on Linux. Or dual boot. Many poeple are not solely focused on gaming. Some people want to know more about how it affects productivity programs. Each review caters to its demographic. If purely interested in gaming review there is lots of sources to find more information.He is Clearly not talking about Phoronix....
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
Linux Benchmarks at Phoronix is Up..
As expected the HPC, 3D Fluid Dynamics and Deep Learning Performance is Off the Charts
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Would be nice if there is any Performance boost on Windows Games running on Linux + Proton/Wine(SteamOS) vs Windows 10/11 with 3D V-Cache.I'm actually pretty surprised at how well the improvement for zstd was given how lackluster the WinRAR and 7z performance was on the TPU review. This could be further evidence that the CPU scheduler in the OS can directly impact hit ratios and evictions from cache due to how tasks are scheduled.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
because that's what all previous CPU's were tested with, if they're not all tested the same way then you're not a reviewer - you're a shillIn a review of the new "GAMING focussed AMD RYZEN R7 5800X3D " why would you choose to test 38 applications and only 10 games?
This defies common sense and logic !
It should have been 38 games tested and only 10 applications !
Maybe I missed something ? Confused ?
Not true. Some will buy it for gaming as there is clearly some benefit. Others will be buying it for certain types of compute as there is a very clear advantage over CPU's with less cache.Most people buying the X3D are not going to be bothered about app performance, if they were they would buy a different chip
Imagine how good they will be on AMD EPYC cpus with the 3D V cache AND 64 cores ! TOTAL BEASTS !I'm actually pretty surprised at how well the improvement for zstd was given how lackluster the WinRAR and 7z performance was on the TPU review. This could be further evidence that the CPU scheduler in the OS can directly impact hit ratios and evictions from cache due to how tasks are scheduled.
Most people buying the X3D are not going to be bothered about app performance, if they were they would buy a different chip
TIGGER IS RIGHT! if they have done any sort of research for mainly app usage then they wouldnt buy the 5800X3D. If they did then they are just stupid !Not true. Some will buy it for gaming as there is clearly some benefit. Others will be buying it for certain types of compute as there is a very clear advantage over CPU's with less cache.
I understand what you are saying but this is a GAMING orientated cpu . I would have thought that to keep it the same but still focus on the game performance, testing extra games would have been logical .because that's what all previous CPU's were tested with, if they're not all tested the same way then you're not a reviewer - you're a shill
All parts must be tested equally, and then your conclusion is drawn off the results
(In this case, the 5800x3D has weak multi threaded performance compared to other ryzen and intel chips - but that's not a negative, for a gaming chip)
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
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Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Generic PS/2 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
Tigger was making a specific point, which you failed to understand the context of. I was making an addendum to his point. You failed to understand that too. Context is not one of your strong suits it would seem.TIGGER IS RIGHT! if they have done any sort of research for mainly app usage then they wouldnt buy the 5800X3D.
Look in a mirror and say that again. Anyone who READS the benchmarks and reviews will know that the X3D has an advantage in certain area's over non-X3D parts. IF those areas of advantage are important to a user than the X3D is the CPU to buy.If they did then they are just stupid !
Then don't buy it.I suppose just confirming it, but seems like a waste to me !
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
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Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Generic PS/2 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
Well yes you are correct for very specific apps it may well be very good but it would be a very small amount ! But if it is what you need, then go for it!Tigger was making a specific point, which you failed to understand the context of. I was making an addendum to his point. You failed to understand that too. Context is not one of your strong suits it would seem.
Look in a mirror and say that again. Anyone who READS the benchmarks and reviews will know that the X3D has an advantage in certain area's over non-X3D parts. IF those areas of advantage are important to a user than the X3D is the CPU to buy.
Then don't buy it.
Fixed that for you..Well yes you are correct for a wide range of specific apps
Some interesting results in the below writeup. Memory overclocking is far less important on Zen 3D than regular Zen. Also some fantastic improvements in Stellaris. I like how for the 1st metric he notes that as each day goes by the simulation gets more complex so comparing days in a fixed time does somewhat penalise faster parts. He then does time to day X comparison as well which I have attached below but it is well worth actually giving it a read.
Writeup here.
Just no.What 5950X3D Might have been
Why not?Just no.
See second line.Why not?