Microsoft May be Adding an Integrated VPN to Edge Browser

[Tsukiyomi91]

If MS is the only one who can mine and harvest your data, then it shouldn't be much problems, right? Right?
That aside, having more browsers with built-in VPN is somewhat a good thing, I guess. =/

 

[Ruru]

I hope Mozilla does the same. I don't need VPN otherwise but there isn't good streams when the IIHF hockey cup is going on.. and many matches are geoblocked from us Finns.

Been using Firefox since 2004 and I'll keep using it.

 

[AsRock]

You guys are so negative and suspicious. Remember, your private data is Microsoft's bread and butter, they will assure that no third party will be able to access it. No third party other than Microsoft themselves that is.

Always look for the * ** *** and totally nothing to when company's say some thing like We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf.

Hi,
Seems like more than maybe

Enable or Disable Microsoft Edge Secure Network VPN Service

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off using the Microsoft Edge Secure Network built-in VPN service to protect your browsing for your account in Windows 10 and Windows 11. The Microsoft Edge web browser is based on Chromium and was released on January 15, 2020. It is compatible with...

www.elevenforum.com

But they want more people using edge haha.

I find it odd that Firefox these days contacts AWS every time you start it up. Seems like you can turn as much of the options of but yet it will ways do so.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I find it odd that Firefox these days contacts AWS every time you start it up.

I think... thats to check for updates, extensions, and addons. Or maybe that Sync function I dont use.

Seems like you can turn as much of the options of but yet it will ways do so.

very few things need turning off via about:config, which is how it should be IMO.

 

[Shihab]

I hope Mozilla does the same. I don't need VPN otherwise but there isn't good streams when the IIHF hockey cup is going on.. and many matches are geoblocked from us Finns.

Been using Firefox since 2004 and I'll keep using it.

From what little I read, there is no indication Edge's implementation will allow selection of exit node/region. According to the 11forum article ThrashZone posted, they'll "[replace] your geolocation with a similar regional address."
Assuming that this is the cases, Mozilla has a similar feature being tested: Firefox Private Network. Neither will have what you're looking for, unfortunately. You'll have to pay up for a standalone service (Mozilla has one, btw), or risk it with free ones (VPNGate+OpenVPN combo?).

Just saying. You can't be that critical of a browser in terms of privacy when you use an operating system from the very same company that can (if they wanted to) collect absolutely everything you do on your PC, regardless of what browser you chose.

This you, bro?


Seriously though, there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong or hypocritical in criticising a product while using it.

 

[Ruru]

From what little I read, there is no indication Edge's implementation will allow selection of exit node/region. According to the 11forum article ThrashZone posted, they'll "[replace] your geolocation with a similar regional address."
Assuming that this is the cases, Mozilla has a similar feature being tested: Firefox Private Network. Neither will have what you're looking for, unfortunately. You'll have to pay up for a standalone service (Mozilla has one, btw), or risk it with free ones (VPNGate+OpenVPN combo?).

Well, that's ass. I installed Opera for a while just to see hockey an year ago as it has VPN with it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Mozilla has a similar feature being tested: Firefox Private Network.

This I would likely use. Mozilla is an infinitely more trustworthy entity than microsoft.

 

[Ruru]

This I would likely use. Mozilla is an infinitely more trustworthy entity than microsoft.

About trust... weird that how so many doesn't trust google but still they use Chrome and Android phones.

 

[lexluthermiester]

weird that how so many doesn't trust google but still they use Chrome and Android phones.

Hypocritical irony. I don't really have big problem with Google. Sure they have their problems with privacy, but they are up-front about it and they anonymize everything they collect as much as they can.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

they anonymize everything they collect as much as they can.

Data collectors can collect enough have compare with that, so this doesnt work as well as its hyped, dont get me wrong, it can work, but only if you work at it with other sources. Its rather easy to tie data to an IP, with several samples, with each added sample the more focal they get. A VPN can alter the results, but if the provider sells data too, well, you need to rethink things.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Its rather easy to tie data to an IP

Yes, but that isn't very useful in identifying specific persons as IP addresses are mostly dynamic these days and as such change often.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Yes, but that isn't very useful in identifying specific persons as IP addresses are mostly dynamic these days and as such change often.

True, but also consider that if they manage get your name linked, which is their main goal, your IP wont matter.

 

[AsRock]

Hi,
Seems like more than maybe

Enable or Disable Microsoft Edge Secure Network VPN Service

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off using the Microsoft Edge Secure Network built-in VPN service to protect your browsing for your account in Windows 10 and Windows 11. The Microsoft Edge web browser is based on Chromium and was released on January 15, 2020. It is compatible with...

www.elevenforum.com

I think... thats to check for updates, extensions, and addons. Or maybe that Sync function I dont use.


very few things need turning off via about:config, which is how it should be IMO.

Maybe some thing in the About:config but what ?. As i have stopped using it as it's always doing shit when it's on a blank page and auto updates are off and no extensions and again why AMS and not mozilla site.

 

[lexluthermiester]

True, but also consider that if they manage get your name linked, which is their main goal, your IP wont matter.

Google anonymizes actual names, even internally.

 

[chrcoluk]

If we lucky there is no secret data harvesting from this feature, and they just throwing a freebie to intice people over, and their motivation for that is of course to get people onto bing and to harvest data from the sync feature within Edge.

If we unlucky this VPN feature will harvest data in addition to the above.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If we lucky there is no secret data harvesting from this feature

That is beyond reason..

 

[caroline!]

Edge aims to increase users' security

was developed in partnership with internet services provider Cloudflare.

the increased privacy from all other data collection agents, most users will likely feature a net gain in privacy.

LOL
Yet another fake privacy feature to give users a false sense of safety, even if we ignore the fact that's made by cuckflare this is as useless as the Tor window in Brave Browser, yes telemetry can be blocked -to an extent- but at the end of the day for normie users it won't make any difference at all, why? because they'll be doing exactly the same with or without a VPN.

I've had more than one heated debate about privacy and opsec before and I stand my ground saying it doesn't matters how much VPNs and proxies you use behind a pfSense box built with top of the line hardware if you still access sites like Facebook, gmail or have a smartphone and use Whatspy to chat, it all comes down to the amount of data YOU share and how YOU use the internet. It also comes down to who you talk to about whatever you consider private, say you want to throw a birthday party for your sister and tell a bunch of friends (3) via riseup mail and you and all of them use claws as client with all the proper keys, certs and so on installed, but one of your friends wants to invite someone else to the party, this other person is a complete tech-illiterate so your friend grabs his smartphone and sents the other person a whatsapp message to let them know about the party. Now the person but also the lizard robot's company, every agency in the world, amazon, google, the chinese and basically every advertising company in the world knows you're throwing a birthday party for your sister, congratulations, you played yourself.
This is a pretty simple example of possible flaws in opsec, imagine if the message you were sending was about uncovering crimes against humanity commited by certain mercenaries in certain warzone, it's so sad you suddenly decided to "commit suicide" after this... heh

Other browsers, such as Opera, already integrate a VPN,

Well, you could call it that, but it's simply a low security proxy that tracks users.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Google anonymizes actual names, even internally.

Sorry, I was referring to other data collectors, that was an IF, manage to get your name.

Ever get an Email and see your name in the title? Using 3-4 (using 3 for example) pieces of data from one source ("take our survey for $5 gift card"), say Age, Location (*broad like state), relationship status. Another source ( Sign up for our newsletter!)submits IP, location, and shoe size. and still another source (lets trustworthy etailers) submits Location, Email, and shoe size. Separately, it means nothing, together, and it starts to build a profile. Query email, and if you use your name, just first name, and the profile grows. Now add Googles anonymized data, not exactly sure what form they use {I suspect list form (individual data) or else they cant use focused advertising}, nothing new but confirms other data already collected. Now you have focused advertising sent to your browser with the title "hey <your name> look at this brand new shiney!".

like @caroline! posted, its basically the same, various methods are all used.

I could go on, but the NFL draft is on..

 

[zlobby]

Sorry, I was referring to other data collectors, that was an IF, manage to get your name.

Ever get an Email and see your name in the title? Using 3-4 (using 3 for example) pieces of data from one source ("take our survey for $5 gift card"), say Age, Location (*broad like state), relationship status. Another source ( Sign up for our newsletter!)submits IP, location, and shoe size. and still another source (lets trustworthy etailers) submits Location, Email, and shoe size. Separately, it means nothing, together, and it starts to build a profile. Query email, and if you use your name, just first name, and the profile grows. Now add Googles anonymized data, not exactly sure what form they use {I suspect list form (individual data) or else they cant use focused advertising}, nothing new but confirms other data already collected. Now you have focused advertising sent to your browser with the title "hey <your name> look at this brand new shiney!".

like @caroline! posted, its basically the same, various methods are all used.

I could go on, but the NFL draft is on..

The ammount of metadata various companies have on you is terrifying!

Even though targeted ads bring tons of money, there are far more sinister intentions with this data.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Sorry, I was referring to other data collectors, that was an IF, manage to get your name.

My bad, misunderstood you.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

The ammount of metadata various companies have on you is terrifying!

Even though targeted ads bring tons of money, there are far more sinister intentions with this data.

Also have to remember, they share or sell that data to each other, yea its scarey, and the only thing you can do is to try to minimize, it might seem futile, it doesnt hurt to try tho.

its nothing truly sinister, really it snot :evileye: .

 

[lexluthermiester]

they share or sell that data to each other, yea its scarey

It should be illegal.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

It should be illegal.

They tried, years ago, I forget what happened, but it was kept quiet.

 

[zlobby]

Also have to remember, they share or sell that data to each other, yea its scarey, and the only thing you can do is to try to minimize, it might seem futile, it doesnt hurt to try tho.

its nothing truly sinister, really it snot :evileye: .

There is some food for thought that is discused since many moons. At this time it's already an estabilished fact - if ALL people put even a little effort to foo the data gathering automation and analysis, it would become very expensive for companies to keep collecting and mining it.

But that's a big 'if'. Hardly more than 5-10% of all internet users know or care how their data is gathered and processed. For the time being big companies will continue making big money from people's private data.

 

[CosmicWanderer]

Seriously though, there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong or hypocritical in criticising a product while using it.

Sure, and nothing wrong with pointing out how highly illogical it is too.