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USB Sound Cards Explained: Tech, Benefits, Do I Need One?

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Experience lifelike 7.1 audio from EVGA! Oh what am I saying, Yamaha HS5 on sale... lols.

Oh no, mine is the original stereo model. It's purpose built for headphones, and it sounds really good to my ears, which is what matters anyway.

Recently the Linux nerds also fixed the drivers for it too, so its primary compatibility issue is gone. :)
 
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Something like this might come close, it's sort of crappy but some stuff like this have BT, this one can power phantom mics as well. It was dirt cheap on a music store site... at least still better than Creative, lol.

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Yea this is the way I would go too.

I have one of my computers hooked up to my Old Sony, Dolby home Theater Setup.

I like it when I'm playing some old Techno (2bad mice), hip hop, electronic, black metal, etc, and the windows and doors vibrate. If it doesn't then I'm doing something wrong :)

Opps I better go back and take my meds, and my Geritol, and act like an old man now.... Right??? :)
 
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When it comes to PC audio there is a lot of surface scratching information & misinformation circulating. IMO PC audio is the most complex topic in the PC tech out there. It's hard to get useful information out of press release material, influencer salesman talk & nonsense posters. :wtf: Here's my personal take on it, trying to keep it short:

Firstly, the most useful information I found on "Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide" over at the Head-Fi forums. This guy does very deep reviews of headphones, AMP/DAC's & surround software. There is no BEST out there for every use case, you need to evaluate your priorities & go from there. What's more important for you? Sound quality for music/video, best positional surround audio for competitive & imersive gaming? Do you use a mic? A high end device is useless if it doesn't work together with the other devices in the chain.


Internal Sound Cards: are nowadays inferrior compared to external AMP/DAC's. Due to their weaker OpAmp's they can't deliver the sound quality of external devices & often lack the power to drive high impedance headphones, and due to beeing internal can suffer from interferences. The only reason to get a internal sound card is IMO if you wanna experience EAX sound from older games. One of the reasons the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD is still traded on eBay for crazy prices. Problem is those older sound cards work only properly on Win7 after Microsoft changed it's sound processing with Win8 & Creative can't or won't put out updated compatible drivers.

USB "Gaming" DAC/AMP's: are nowadays the gold standard, if gaming is priority. Creative's Super X-Fi delivers the best surround virtualization right now. The Sennheiser GSX 1000 has better OpAmps, but it's virtualization can't touch Creative's. Another big selling point is the integration & customization of the microphone over non gaming external DAC/AMP's. They also got enough juice to drive most higher impedance headphones.

USB "non Gaming" DAC/AMP's: have mostly better OpAmp's, resulting in better sound quality (if paired with high quality headphones). Lacks of virtualization, so it's less suited for competitive & immersive gaming. However, with some software like "Redscape" or other software solutions like "Waves NX", "Boom 3D", "Razer Surround", "SBX Pro Studio", "Equalizer APO" or "Dolby Atmos" you can get virtualization on a non gaming DAC/AMP. But they are inferrior to Creative's Super X-Fi. And there is no guarantee it will work flawlessly.

Gaming Headsets: mostly overpriced G4M3R crap with garbage audio speakers & trash sound quality (with some exeptions from headphone manufacturers like Beyerdynamic or Sennheiser). Overall you're better off with heaphones & a external ModMic or a mounted microphone.

Headphones: there are 3 types of headphones, closed, open & semi open. Each has it's own Pro's & Con's. For gaming where a big soundstage (for better positional cues) matters, open or semi open is the better choice. For listening music, closed or semi open might be better. However, closed can be a better pick if you got some noise pollution around you or don't want to bother roommates. Headphones have also very different characteristics, some are more suited for gaming & some more for music/movies. Again, check "Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide", he tested & rated a lot of headphones. "Z Reviews" does also some good reviews.


Lastly, you need to research or ask in forums if the sound card or DAC/AMP has enough juice to drive your headphones. Tech specs do very often not translate into reality & you end up with a bad match. A lot to process, but like I said, it's a very complex topic. :)
 
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Really? Wow. "Review".
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This is the right kind of sponsored article - detailed breakdown of the tech, simplified explanations for the average consumer, and the sponsors products used as examples within the context of the article


I still have their original USB soundcard/DAC/headphone amplifier, interestingly it still works fine on windows 10/11 with a basic driver (but no software, last i checked)
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This is the right kind of sponsored article - detailed breakdown of the tech, simplified explanations for the average consumer, and the sponsors products used as examples within the context of the article


I still have their original USB soundcard/DAC/headphone amplifier, interestingly it still works fine on windows 10/11 with a basic driver (but no software, last i checked)
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I had the sound blaster extigy way back in the day.
 
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Cmon no discount for European or other markets that aren't the US !? This sucks!

Google "creative daniel_k" to find out why creative deserves bankruptcy and why they'll never get a penny from me.

Care to elaborate?
 
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Cmon no discount for European or other markets that aren't the US !? This sucks!
Care to elaborate?

Google: Daniel_K, Who Fixed Creative's Broken Vista Drivers, Speaks Out

"Daniel_K, the Creative Labs fan who fixed the company’s broken Vista sound card drivers only to be threatened by the corporate brass, just e-mailed with his side of the story. “My name is Daniel Kawakami and I’m Brazilian,” he writes. “I’m NOT a cracker, a hacker, just an enthusiast modder with basic assembly knowledge and […]"

He basically fixed/modified Creative's broken drivers, enabled some extra features & uploaded them for free (incl. a donation button). Creative = not amused. :shadedshu:
 
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Looked into moving from internal to external a while ago. But turns out all of these USB devices are a downgrade compared to my Sound Blaster ZxR. The Sound Blaster X7 would be a sidegrade and i will end up with a huge box on my desk.

Gonna stick with the ZxR for another 10 years most likely as i don't use a Mic anyways.

(onboard still sucks, tried it for fun some months ago)
i'm still using a PCI Express X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro which is pretty old now and no complaints.
 
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I've been interested in USB audio solutions for a while now with the thought of replacing my Creative Sound Blaster Z. Looking at either a Sound Blaster X4 or the iFi audio ZEN DAC V2. Personally, I think the more gaming orientated features of the Sound Blaster are more important to me. The G6 seems great, back as mentioned in the review, doesn't support the latest Sound Blaster software features.

Anyone here had experience with either or a suggestion of another?
 

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I've been interested in USB audio solutions for a while now with the thought of replacing my Creative Sound Blaster Z. Looking at either a Sound Blaster X4 or the iFi audio ZEN DAC V2. Personally, I think the more gaming orientated features of the Sound Blaster are more important to me. The G6 seems great, back as mentioned in the review, doesn't support the latest Sound Blaster software features.

Anyone here had experience with either or a suggestion of another?

I own both. The ZEN DAC wins in terms of power and overall sound quality. As does it's cheaper sibling, the recently released ZEN Air DAC. However, it has no extra features to speak of (aside from the XBass button), and it lacks a microphone input (since it's not a sound card but a USB DAC/amp). If that's relevant to you, then the X4 is the obvious choice.
 
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I own both. The ZEN DAC wins in terms of power and overall sound quality. As does it's cheaper sibling, the recently released ZEN Air DAC. However, it has no extra features to speak of (aside from the XBass button), and it lacks a microphone input (since it's not a sound card but a USB DAC/amp). If that's relevant to you, then the X4 is the obvious choice.

Thanks for your input, Inle! Much appreciated!
 
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The problem with those new creative usb interfaces is the lack of RCA line outs. My old X-fi HD is great as a DAC (for me -in my system- at least. I found it better than the SMSL sanskrit 10th which i bought because of the hype but sold it later) but mediocre as a headphone amp (what is not a priority for me).
 
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@Inle, I'm going to order both. The X4's SXFI BATTLE Mode feature interests me a lot, however if I find I do not like it or make use of it, I'll stick with the iFi and find a mic solution. Is it likely Creative will launch a replacement to the Sound BlasterX G6 with SXFI support?
 

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@Inle, I'm going to order both. The X4's SXFI BATTLE Mode feature interests me a lot, however if I find I do not like it or make use of it, I'll stick with the iFi and find a mic solution. Is it likely Creative will launch a replacement to the Sound BlasterX G6 with SXFI support?

I'd say that's very likely, but I don't have anything confirmed officially.
 
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Google: Daniel_K, Who Fixed Creative's Broken Vista Drivers, Speaks Out

"Daniel_K, the Creative Labs fan who fixed the company’s broken Vista sound card drivers only to be threatened by the corporate brass, just e-mailed with his side of the story. “My name is Daniel Kawakami and I’m Brazilian,” he writes. “I’m NOT a cracker, a hacker, just an enthusiast modder with basic assembly knowledge and […]"

He basically fixed/modified Creative's broken drivers, enabled some extra features & uploaded them for free (incl. a donation button). Creative = not amused. :shadedshu:
Still bringing up Vista, enjoy living in the past?

I've been using Creative Soundcards since the Sound Blaster 16 and never had issues with drivers. Most people that do have messed up Windows installations.
 
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Still bringing up Vista, enjoy living in the past?

I've been using Creative Soundcards since the Sound Blaster 16 and never had issues with drivers. Most people that do have messed up Windows installations.

Not really, lol. When things moved towards Win 10, I couldn't get my Auzen Home Theater HD work for my life.
 
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The biggest problem with DACs is that they usually have no software. And even the best DAC with the best headphones will not result in having a perfect audio experience.
Personally I absolutely need an equalizer, I cannot enjoy audio without it. No matter what kind of audio equipment I had, I always needed an equalizer to make the best of it.

So for my speakers I simply use HDMI audio to output to my receiver, which has a graphic equalizer.

But for my headphones I still use my old Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB sound card, which has really good audio quality and very nice software (with an equalizer).
 
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I've been interested in USB audio solutions for a while now with the thought of replacing my Creative Sound Blaster Z. Looking at either a Sound Blaster X4 or the iFi audio ZEN DAC V2. Personally, I think the more gaming orientated features of the Sound Blaster are more important to me. The G6 seems great, back as mentioned in the review, doesn't support the latest Sound Blaster software features.

Anyone here had experience with either or a suggestion of another?
If you go for iFi, then pick the Diablo or the Gryphon. They are both made on iFi's latest 'Dragon' architecture. With them at least the sound sound will be miles ahead comapred to Creative's.
Well, no 'gaming' features but at least you'd get a very decent DAC/amp combo.

Hell, if you can afford it, go for the iDSD Signature.
 
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The biggest problem with DACs is that they usually have no software. And even the best DAC with the best headphones will not result in having a perfect audio experience.
Personally I absolutely need an equalizer, I cannot enjoy audio without it. No matter what kind of audio equipment I had, I always needed an equalizer to make the best of it.

So for my speakers I simply use HDMI audio to output to my receiver, which has a graphic equalizer.

But for my headphones I still use my old Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB sound card, which has really good audio quality and very nice software (with an equalizer).

That's one bonus of having an interface + monitor based setup. The Motu M2 is currently the cream of the pie with the Sabre DAC, and is not overly expensive. Easily comparable to much more expensive solutions and you get a software that you can toy with.
 
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Hell, if you can afford it, go for the iDSD Signature.

I did think about getting the CA DacMagic 200M, how does the iDSD Signature compare?

I do wish Creative had a more serious product; one what would match something like the iFi Zen DAC v2 with the gaming features of an X4...
 
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