CyberLink Launches PowerDVD 22, Putting User Experience at the Core of Blu-Ray, DVD, 4K HDR, and YouTube Playback

[looniam]

sorry cyberlink but too many free options that can do more with less frustration.

imo, you're not worth the bandwidth to pirate anymore. just stick w/power director.

Spoiler

where's me buccaneers?

on me buccanhead!

 

[lexluthermiester]

You need SGX to play 4k UHD.

No, you don't. For hardware acceleration, yes. To render 4kBluray in software, no such requirement is needed.

Now please explain how any of what I've said is "deeply flawed".

See above.

 

[PCL]

No, you don't. For hardware acceleration, yes. To render 4kBluray in software, no such requirement is needed.

See above.

I will wait for your source on any of this.

Edit: I'm not talking about playing a 4k UHD file. I'm talking about an actual 4k UHD blu-ray disc, which you simply cannot do without SGX.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I will wait for your source on any of this.

Go ahead, hold your breath for that one, I dare you.

 

[PCL]

Go ahead, hold your breath for that one, I dare you.

The fact that you can't produce one was sort of my point...

 

[zlobby]

Well, if you're talking about like Netflix, you're probably watching compressed UHD content at possibly an even way lower resolution such as 720p cap if you're using Chrome. Gotta use a TV or Edge to get it up to UHD even... Netflix being the garbage it is.

Though, even at full quality it still lacks the typical HDR you get on UHD Blu-Ray, which is a nice bonus considering one to have a half-fancy VA panel TV that boasts decent HDR like the Sony I have here...

however, throwing all that aside... it's all CD media and horribly overpriced at that...

HMAX does Dolby Vision. And there is nothing 'typical' about it or HDR. It is all well described and documented.

We are talking specs and formats here, not whether panles can actually display the full glory of HDR formats.

Go ahead, hold your breath for that one, I dare you.

CyberLink Support Center

New Intel chips won't play Blu-ray disks due to SGX deprecation

Intel has removed support for SGX (software guard extension) in 12th Generation Intel Core 11000 and 12000 processors, rendering modern PCs unable to playback Blu-ray disks in 4K resolution.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Intel discontinues support for UHD Blu-ray discs in its newest PC chips

Time to finally invest in a blu-ray player?

www.whathifi.com

Top 3 in gugul...

 

[sam_86314]

Yeah, I'll stick to MakeMKV. That software actually has a good user experience. No deprecated instruction sets are required, just a need a compatible Blu-ray drive.

I absolutely bought the $60 perpetual license for MakeMKV. They deserve it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The fact that you can't produce one was sort of my point...

Customer Support - Why can’t I play Ultra HD Blu-ray movies on my new Intel CPU (11th generation or above) platform that does not support Intel SGX feature? Why are Ultra HD Blu-ray discs no longer playable after related Intel drivers and the Windows

New Intel chips won't play Blu-ray disks due to SGX deprecation

Intel has removed support for SGX (software guard extension) in 12th Generation Intel Core 11000 and 12000 processors, rendering modern PCs unable to playback Blu-ray disks in 4K resolution.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Intel discontinues support for UHD Blu-ray discs in its newest PC chips

Time to finally invest in a blu-ray player?

www.whathifi.com

Yawn... Perhaps SOFTWARE playback has escaped your attention...

 

[PCL]

Yawn... Perhaps SOFTWARE playback has escaped your attention...

I had no idea you understood so little about how blu-ray disc playback on a computer works. My mistake for engaging.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I had no idea you understood so little about how blu-ray disc playback on a computer works. My mistake for engaging.

Oh yes, that's got to be it, MY ignorance...

 

[syrup]

No, you don't. For hardware acceleration, yes. To render 4kBluray in software, no such requirement is needed.

See above.

Hardware acceleration of what? Are you talking about DRM or video rendering?

DRM is what the whole PowerDVD + SGX thing is about - it'd been the only "legal/official" way to make a PC play 4K Blu-rays.

 

[Oshadorin]

Never used PowerDVD. There always were higher quality options, and either free, or much cheaper.
I’ve been using AnyDVD HD for over a decade, for DVDs, then Blu-rays, then 4K Blu-rays. AnyDVD HD combined with any video player, will work perfectly, if you don’t care about the Blu-ray menus of course.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Never used PowerDVD. There always were higher quality options, and either free, or much cheaper.
I’ve been using AnyDVD HD for over a decade, for DVDs, then Blu-rays, then 4K Blu-rays. AnyDVD HD combined with any video player, will work perfectly, if you don’t care about the Blu-ray menus of course.

Hmmm... a SOFTWARE playback solution... How interesting...

 

[PCL]

Hmmm... a SOFTWARE playback solution... How interesting...

You realize that works on some UHD discs because they've cracked the older versions of the encryption that SGX handles, right? Lol, keep digging that hole, buddy.

To recap:
I said PowerDVD couldn't play UHD blu-rays without using an older processor with security issues. You said that was not true. You were proven wrong. You then shifted the goalposts to saying that some other piece of software could do it with older movies (but not new releases), which to be clear, has nothing to do with my original point, and have claimed victory. Good for you, buddy!

 

[lexluthermiester]

You realize that works on some UHD discs because they've cracked the older versions of the encryption that SGX handles, right? Lol, keep digging that hole, buddy.

To recap:
I said PowerDVD couldn't play UHD blu-rays without using an older processor with security issues. You said that was not true. You were proven wrong. You then shifted the goalposts to saying that some other piece of software could do it with older movies (but not new releases), which to be clear, has nothing to do with my original point, and have claimed victory. Good for you, buddy!

Blah blah blah. Context seems to be a lost concept on you. But do continue with your condescension, it's most entertaining..

 

[eidairaman1]

You realize that works on some UHD discs because they've cracked the older versions of the encryption that SGX handles, right? Lol, keep digging that hole, buddy.

To recap:
I said PowerDVD couldn't play UHD blu-rays without using an older processor with security issues. You said that was not true. You were proven wrong. You then shifted the goalposts to saying that some other piece of software could do it with older movies (but not new releases), which to be clear, has nothing to do with my original point, and have claimed victory. Good for you, buddy!

Your arrogance proceeds you

PowerDVD has been around a long time like Adaptec's Easy Creator Software Series.

Simple Codec without risking getting a parasite

Blah blah blah. Context seems to be a lost concept on you. But do continue with your condescension, it's most entertaining..

 

[PCL]

Context seems to be a lost concept on you.

Then give me context. I want to play the 4k UHD Blu ray of a movie released in the last few years. What software will play this on a machine without SDX? I'll gladly admit you're right if you have an answer.

Simple Codec without risking getting a parasite

This is probably a solution for regular Blu rays (of which there are plenty of solutions), not 4k.

 

[sam_86314]

Then give me context. I want to play the 4k UHD Blu ray of a movie released in the last few years. What software will play this on a machine without SDX? I'll gladly admit you're right if you have an answer.

MakeMKV

 

[PCL]

MakeMKV

That rips the movie, so then I have storage to worry about for a large movie collection, but it's a more productive answer than lexluthermiester has managed to give.

 

[sam_86314]

That rips the movie, so then I have storage to worry about for a large movie collection, but it's a more productive answer than lexluthermiester has managed to give.

It also features integration with media players. That allows for playing off of the disc.

Menus don't work from my experience, so it just starts playing the movie (or the largest file on the disc).

 

[PCL]

It also features integration with media players. That allows for playing off of the disc.

Menus don't work from my experience, so it just starts playing the movie.

Not ideal to not have menus, but that's a helluva start!

 

[lexluthermiester]

That rips the movie, so then I have storage to worry about for a large movie collection, but it's a more productive answer than lexluthermiester has managed to give.

Ah, another personal jab. Hmmm...

It also features integration with media players. That allows for playing off of the disc.

Menus don't work from my experience, so it just starts playing the movie.

Yet another SOFTWARE solution...

 

[PCL]

Ah, another personal jab. Hmmm...

Yet another SOFTWARE solution...

Another? What was the first? And I'm not looking for an inferior experience to a blu-ray player. A $3000 computer shouldn't lose out to a $200 player.

While MakeMKV is certainly something I'll be keeping an eye on, it's hopefully going to see more development and isn't a "solution" yet.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Another? What was the first? And I'm not looking for an inferior experience to a blu-ray player. A $3000 computer shouldn't lose out to a $200 player.

While MakeMKV is certainly something I'll be keeping an eye on, it's hopefully going to see more development and isn't a "solution" yet.

Like I said before, context seems to be lost on you.

 

[sam_86314]

From what I understand, SGX existed purely to provide a "safe" place for DRM to run; something that doesn't sit right with me at all.

I'm glad it's been deprecated.