The Official Magic the Gathering card game Rules, Questions, and General Discussion Thread

[Selaya]

dont bother, it'll get all but ruined by them revisionists

 

[Vayra86]

them revisionists

Who dat? I don't do social media so this sort of stuff doesn't land

 

[Space Lynx]

I might get the vehicle based Neon Dynasty Commander deck, I haven't decided yet...

and I do agree, Shrines are pretty cool.

 

[Selaya]

Who dat? I don't do social media so this sort of stuff doesn't land

well havent you paid attention to recent mtg, it's retcon revisionistland everywhere

 

[Vayra86]

well havent you paid attention to recent mtg, it's retcon revisionistland everywhere

I did, and we mentioned the problems in this topic too I think, assuming you speak of the whole Universes Beyond, MTGA Alchemy, Unfinity's acorn fuckup and the 'new approach' of 'something for everyone'. But revisionist still doesn't land tbh, what do you mean?

Im also seeing one of the healthiest Modern formats ever right now... Standard sets are hit/miss, but certainly not pure power creep, the banwave material is not quite as bad as it was 1,5-2 years ago (Oko, Uro, Omnath and other stupidity).

I think what you need to do is cherry pick what you like, much like how Wizards say they intended it. The problem here is approaching the game like we used to, trying to catch 'em all. But a vast majority is becoming more and more obvious to be a money pit that won't hold its value. At the same time, you see older cards hold value just the same.

Perhaps my perspective is different, a bit more toned down also because I play Commander mostly. I'm used to cherry picking Every set release is a small blessing because it brings more support for strategies that might not have been possible before.

 

[Space Lynx]

I did, and we mentioned the problems in this topic too I think, assuming you speak of the whole Universes Beyond, MTGA Alchemy, Unfinity's acorn fuckup and the 'new approach' of 'something for everyone'. But revisionist still doesn't land tbh, what do you mean?

Im also seeing one of the healthiest Modern formats ever right now... Standard sets are hit/miss, but certainly not pure power creep, the banwave material is not quite as bad as it was 1,5-2 years ago (Oko, Uro, Omnath and other stupidity).

I think what you need to do is cherry pick what you like, much like how Wizards say they intended it. The problem here is approaching the game like we used to, trying to catch 'em all. But a vast majority is becoming more and more obvious to be a money pit that won't hold its value. At the same time, you see older cards hold value just the same.

Perhaps my perspective is different, a bit more toned down also because I play Commander mostly. I'm used to cherry picking Every set release is a small blessing because it brings more support for strategies that might not have been possible before.

I am enjoying Commander as well, and I intend to ask my friends to make up our own new rule. I want to relive the old Odyssey Block days, but through the eyes of Commander. So Commander (still singleton) but Odyssey Block only... (commanders will have to be of course from a newer set)

could be a lot of fun, pulling out all of our old cards and giving it a go. we have a lot of Onslaught block too, so maybe combine both.

 

[Vayra86]

I am enjoying Commander as well, and I intend to ask my friends to make up our own new rule. I want to relive the old Odyssey Block days, but through the eyes of Commander. So Commander (still singleton) but Odyssey Block only... (commanders will have to be of course from a newer set)

could be a lot of fun, pulling out all of our old cards and giving it a go. we have a lot of Onslaught block too, so maybe combine both.

Its really cool to theme your cubes a bit for Commander yeah... there's a world to (re)discover that way. Themed drafts are good too... we're looking for an Innistrad theme soonish, you can actually still get your hands on a few of those boosters from back then. And otherwise you could make your own with a common/uncommon set of each and a handful of rares.

I'm just gonna share this, two of my most successful Commander decks.

Kwain is ultra safe, sit back relax and enjoy your counter plays until you can win right out of nowhere, while everyone gets to play their deck until that moment. Its super fun to pilot.

The other is 'fair deck' enchantment-based stompy. This one gets targeted in my playgroup, like, hard. And they still struggle, 3 on 1... You can snowball 3-5 enchantments out in one turn if you get the mana ramp.

MTG Deck: Kwain, Gas Rabbit

Kwain is a brilliant little rabbit. He gives everyone cards and life and you ear...

tappedout.net

MTG Deck: Sythis of the Bountiful Harvest

Playstyle This Sythis build plays for maximum synergy around its commander's obv...

tappedout.net

 

[dragontamer5788]

the banwave material is not quite as bad as it was 1,5-2 years ago

Remember when they effectively banned all of Mirrodin? (I use hyperbole, but it felt like that when the Artifact/Affinity lands were banned)

I remember. Oh my, what an overpowered set.

 

[Vayra86]

Remember when they effectively banned all of Mirrodin? (I use hyperbole, but it felt like that when the Artifact/Affinity lands were banned)

I remember. Oh my, what an overpowered set.

I read about it, didn't play at the time. But yeah. The game's survived numerous screw ups, let's see where the current ones go...

 

[dragontamer5788]

I read about it, didn't play at the time. But yeah. The game's survived numerous screw ups, let's see where the current ones go...

Here is a funny Reddit topic that came up in my searches, trying to remember how borked Mirrodin was.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/epjb93
Mirrodin is so borked its banned in modern for crying out loud.

Mirrodin was incredibly overpowered. Bonesplitter and Seething Song as a common and Loxodon warhammer as an uncommon. Lulz. I do wonder if the designers of MtG recognize how borked it is and continue to print the silly overpowered stuff whenever they return to that plane.

 

[Space Lynx]

Can anyone tell me what the hell the point of this card is?

 

[Vayra86]

Can anyone tell me what the hell the point of this card is?

Everything on the stack that is not cast; a copied spell is a copy, not a cast. Spells from triggers count too

This one is on my want list niche as fck, but cheap!!

 

[Space Lynx]

Everything on the stack that is not cast; a copied spell is a copy, not a cast. Spells from triggers count too

This one is on my want list niche as fck, but cheap!!

I see what you mean now.

What the hell does this card do? I have read it a 100x and my dyslexia is still not understanding... lol

 

[Vayra86]

I see what you mean now.

What the hell does this card do? I have read it a 100x and my dyslexia is still not understanding... lol

You can enchant any creature; not just creatures you control.

 

[Space Lynx]

You can enchant any creature; not just creatures you control.

so if I enchant my enemies creature, all his creatures have to attack me?

damn this card seems overpowered...

 

[dragontamer5788]

What the hell does this card do? I have read it a 100x and my dyslexia is still not understanding... lol

I'd enchant my own creatures, to setup favorable trades.

It forces the enemy to "alpha-strike" each turn, which is often a bad thing. If you have death-touch creatures or other kinds of combat tricks (1st strike, vigilance, etc. etc.), forcing the enemy to attack is very important.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

I see what you mean now.

What the hell does this card do? I have read it a 100x and my dyslexia is still not understanding... lol

This reminds me of this Siren Creature deck I have that's forces people to attack me, but I have Blood Reconning in it too.

 

[Space Lynx]

I opened up some packs, not many, just some gold I had saved up...

got 4 of these... wtf lol.

this seems OP

 

[Vayra86]

Naah capenna isnt a very strong set overall. Some niches get served and pioneer and modern are getting some early win opportunities. Standard is the usual

Daily Deck Tech from Capenna: Pioneer's New Turn Three Kill | Cardmarket Insight

Every workday while the Streets of Capenna are new, Insight takes a quick look at another deck featuring the fresh cards!

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From my Commander-first POV I do have about 30 rares/mrares on my wantlist

 

[rethcirE]

I've never played, but got my first Commander deck for my 34th birthday a few days ago . There is a "league" of sorts at my work that meet weekly to play. I will soon infiltrate their ranks with.....questions and annoyance mostly I'm sure.

I'm pretty excited to play though. Attempting to learn all I can online/YouTube and watched several matches so far. An of course, I went online and got card sleeves, a deck box, and some fun looking dice. Anything else worth investing in?

 

[Vayra86]

I've never played, but got my first Commander deck for my 34th birthday a few days ago . There is a "league" of sorts at my work that meet weekly to play. I will soon infiltrate their ranks with.....questions and annoyance mostly I'm sure.

I'm pretty excited to play though. Attempting to learn all I can online/YouTube and watched several matches so far. An of course, I went online and got card sleeves, a deck box, and some fun looking dice. Anything else worth investing in?

Cards
The best approach to getting your hands on cards is reading a shit ton about MTG, reading deck lists and understanding the mechanics they use etc. Then you slowly get an idea for what price of a card means in the MTG universe. And then you can start buying Singles.

If you collect cards through preconstructed decks and/or booster packs, you'll be having a more expensive hobby and you won't make the constructed commander decks you'll eventually want, most likely. Precons are generally good investment in terms of bang for buck, but they are also centered around ideas you might not like. 'Building your own' is a guarantee you'll carve out your own path / journey through this game.

It really is just that: a journey. The game has a miraculous depth and knowledge and insight comes in phases. Don't expect to figure it all out right away. Play a lot, and it will come to you Borrow some constructed decks from others to see the difference with preconstructed. And, another great approach is to take a preconstructed deck and figure out how to pimp it and refine it further. Adding synergy, removing shitty cards, etc.

Commander is all about synergy anyway. You build around or with a specific commander. Many effects on cards exist in dozens of ways/wording. Getting a clear view of all those mechanics is a massive undertaking, so focusing on one niche/playstyle (or 'archetype' as its called) could help you. Example: 'Reanimator' is an archetypes. It focuses on moving cards into and getting it out of the graveyard to gain an advantage. Another is 'Weenie', focusing around small cheap creatures to overwhelm. 'Lifegain', focusing on cards that gain life and get advantage out of that. And so on.

I would strongly suggest to stay away from Youtube/best of lists and the bog standard Commander top lists - they quickly go towards competitive play, overpriced cards and lame combos that go stale quickly (personal experience). Its much more fun to play Commander with cheaper cards. Cheap lists can easily destroy a table, too
Rather, see what creativity players pull off here;

MTG Deck Builder and Community - TappedOut.net

tappedout.net

Find a commander of choice and enjoy. Most of the time good decklists have descriptions and explanations, its a community site with tons of info.

Here's a bunch of decks I built for Commander. A very broad selection of archetypes, and all on a medium or small budget (tops out at 350-400 eur including a pricy land base)
If you want to have a group hug deck, check out Kwain, Gas Rabbit. Its cheap to build and never ceases to be fun at the table, basically people want to keep you alive while you find a sneaky way to snatch a win. Its a good example of how varied the commander format is.

https://tappedout.net/users/VayraTheGatherer/deck-folders/

This is an example of an upgraded Preconstructed deck:

MTG Deck: Kotori's Armored Core

Kotori brings her best pilots to the battlefield to crew a host of scary vehicle...

tappedout.net

 

[Space Lynx]

Does anyone know what the Magic the Gathering Arena "Vault %" is?

If you login to MTG Arena, at the top of the screen next to your gold count, if you go hover your mouse to the left of that, it shows you how many wildcards you have to craft with, and at the bottom of that list is has "Vault %" wth is Vault %...? Mine says 82%

 

[Selaya]

duplicate commons and uncommons acquired (above the count of 4) will be destroyed and converted into vault progress (used to be for rares and mythics asw, but they convert into small amounts of gems nowadays, and boosters have duplicate protection for those), once that fills up to 100% you will receive a buncha wildcards from it

 

[Space Lynx]

can't believe this game I just played, my enemy was almost at 40 life, had me down to 1 life for 95% of the entire match, even when he was close to 40. I gained 0 life, but drew Legion Angel, and that gave me new lease on life for a bit after I cast Farewell... long story short I won, can't believe it. lmao one of my best matches ever

 

[rethcirE]

Cards

I have 8 decks now. I think I'm just a habitual collector and this game definitely feeds off that energy. Won a few 1v1 games, our 3-4 person games are definitely the most fun and big learning games for me. One game saw 5 board wipes and lasted nearly 2 hours! I managed 5 new decks for $15-20 each which seemed like a bargain. The other 2 were closer to MSRP, and the final was my original birthday gift. All in all I'm having a ton of fun and managing to get a game in fairly often. Turns out many of my coworkers play or used to and some are starting back up in the last few months.