Germany to Give Intel €6.8 Billion Towards Magdeburg Fab

[Chomiq]

The whole game is a geopolitical strategy to return the critical manufacturing infrastructure back to home - away from the "enemies" - the other 135 countries in the world led by China, Russia, India, South African Republic, Mexico, Latin America, Africa who will like to establish a new world economic order.

 

[zlobby]

They would but they won't.
The whole game is a geopolitical strategy to return the critical manufacturing infrastructure back to home - away from the "enemies" - the other 135 countries in the world led by China, Russia, India, South African Republic, Mexico, Latin America, Africa who will like to establish a new world economic order.

Now there you made a mistake. Apart from China and possibly India, no other company in your list could or would establish any economic order, let alone a world one.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Germany exports $115.8B to the US and imports around $55.5B from the US. It is a net capital exporter to the US.

How those numbers matter with regional development and establishing constant tax flow establishment for the region? You are going into woods with your statement. You do not understand how economy works and who are the winners when money makes money.

 

[ARF]

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And so what? Does the automotive industry buy chips from intel? Show a proof.

 

[Chomiq]

And so what? Does the automotive industry buy chips from intel? Show a proof.

Happy now?

 

[ARF]

Happy now?

No, but thanks anyways. There are some automotive customers for intel.

 

[big_glasses]

i'm curious, what type of chips Intel sell to auto-industries. FPGA?
Chips for self-driving car AI (datacentre)? storage-Memory(/SSD)? Embeded chips/IoT-chips?

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[80-watt Hamster]

Germany exports $115.8B to the US and imports around $55.5B from the US. It is a net capital exporter to the US.

A 100% trade surplus is... bad? Genuine question; economics is not my strong suit.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Yes, and TSMC wouldn't want another plant in Europe? Or maybe they don't have the cash? /s

AMD and Apple being fabless for now doesn't mean it can't change in the future.

Fabs are extremely pricy, you just have to look at capital expenditures from the aforementioned companies (aka the dividends that are spent in research and development instead of being paid back into stock value).

AMD's CapEx ($306 million for the past 12 months) vs. Intel's CapEx ($20.73 billion), TSMC's is even higher at $29.8 billion, but TSMC is already heavily investing in two new fabs abroad (one in Arizona for 5 nm-class lithography and one in Japan (Kumamoto) for 28 nm-class), a third backend fab at home and it has geopolitical interests in its business not to shift too far away from Asia. The weaker its presence in Taiwan and adjacent friendly territories, the stronger China's resolve to take it as a war spoil will become, as China itself is not immune to the blow it would receive from having their semiconductor output gone. The world runs on chips, even in such unfortunate times

Thus, it stands to reason (to me anyway) that Intel is the only company in position - and with a viable business roadmap - to commit to such a large investment in Europe right now.

 

[Ferrum Master]

the only company in position

We could argue that Samsung is capable of it too, but they are pretty nationality centric, at least for now.

 

[zlobby]

We could argue that Samsung is capable of it too, but they are pretty nationality centric, at least for now.

History taught us how it usually goes.

 

[phanbuey]

Now there you made a mistake. Apart from China and possibly India, no other company in your list could or would establish any economic order, let alone a world one.

This. The only country capable of establishing a new order is China, and the first thing they will do is kneecap India (they're already doing this) so they don't impede the extracting of wealth from it's vassals. The remaining countries will have to choose between a rock and a hard place.

 

[Jack Slayter]

Can you actually give something "towards" something? I've never heard this.

Could it be that English is not the mothertongue of the "writers" in here ?

 

[R0H1T]

The only country capable of establishing a new order is China, and the first thing they will do is kneecap India (they're already doing this) so they don't impede the extracting of wealth from it's vassals.

Well luckily we have the next hundred years to find whether they can pull it off or not, sadly though knowing general human nature for short term gain it is also the most likely outcome!