Fastest graphics card for i7-6700

[Dr. Dro]

So how much fps you get, 1000 or 2000? It's like 100 fps is "low" nowadays to you or something.

Have you watched the video you linked? The frame rate is fine while the player is away from everything. He merely walked into a village where there were other players and it was below 60 fps. Any heavy combat in Battlefield would cause this processor to dip well into the 20's, if not lower. Not only that, but look at the frametime graph. It's all over the place, that's an horrid experience in itself.

Yea well, this isn’t 2015 anymore, DX11 is quite irrelevant now. And AMD, despite the low relevance of DX11, tweaked their drivers for DX11 now as well. It’s simply better to buy AMD if you plan to use a old CPU.

I would have some reservation about calling DirectX 11 irrelevant as games have and will continue to release with this API for the foreseeable future, but I will agree on low thread count processors working better with AMD's implementation

 

[The red spirit]

Nobody will pair a 10100 with a 3090, as, again, it’s a terrible pairing and the 3090 will even lose performance in 4K. You don’t buy a 3090 to lose 10-20% of its performance with a old or weak CPU, nobody does that. And it’s not about “100 fps”, it’s about using the system to its fullest ability.

If you think that RTX 3090 is wasted on i3, then just get RTX 3080. It's really that simple, but evidence doesn't agree with you and most people actually want nicer graphics instead of being capped at 1080p and low settings for "e-sports experience". Either way my recommendations were RTX 2080, RX 6700 XT, RTX 3060, not RTX 3090. That i7 will be totally fine with all those cards.

 

[eazen]

If you think that RTX 3090 is wasted on i3, then just get RTX 3080. It's really that simple, but evidence doesn't agree with you and most people actually want nicer graphics instead of being capped at 1080p and low settings for "e-sports experience". Either way my recommendations were RTX 2080, RX 6700 XT, RTX 3060, not RTX 3090. That i7 will be totally fine with all those cards.

The 3080 is only 10% slower so it’s still a terrible pairing with a i3. That i3 is at best suited for a 3060, nothing higher than that. “Evidence” doesn’t agree with me? So far the Video you posted contradicted yourself as the other member pointed out. And I don’t see any other evidence. All experts always say do not pair a very strong GPU with a old or weak CPU, you will never see a expert or reviewer say otherwise.

 

[The red spirit]

Have you watched the video you linked? The frame rate is fine while the player is away from everything. He merely walked into a village where there were other players and it was below 60 fps. Any heavy combat in Battlefield would cause this processor to dip well into the 20's, if not lower. Not only that, but look at the frametime graph. It's all over the place, that's an horrid experience in itself.

I actually haven't, but I did now. It didn't reach 20 and dipped to like 59 fps at worst. Yeah there were some minor stuttering, but it's still mostly decent. Shadowplay isn't exactly free performance wise, so it might have been just that, because otherwise there's seemingly no reason why would a PC like that stutter. Only GPU was at some points 100% utilized, which again with Shadowplay might be the culprit.

The 3080 is only 10% slower so it’s still a terrible pairing with a i3. That i3 is at best suited for a 3060, nothing higher than that. “Evidence” doesn’t agree with me? So far the Video you posted contradicted yourself as the other member pointed out. And I don’t see any other evidence. All experts always say do not pair a very strong GPU with a old or weak CPU, you will never see a expert or reviewer say otherwise.

I wonder what those experts will say, when you say that your machine is never finished and you just upgrade weakest parts and keep using it. I found out the hard way that buying low end GPU for otherwise weak CPU system was a waste of money, when I upgraded CPU too.

 

[eazen]

I actually haven't, but I did now. It didn't reach 20 and dipped to like 59 fps at worst. Yeah there were some minor stuttering, but it's still mostly decent. Shadowplay isn't exactly free performance wise, so it might have been just that, because otherwise there's seemingly no reason why would a PC like that stutter. Only GPU was at some points 100% utilized, which again with Shadowplay might be the culprit.


I wonder what those experts will say, when you say that your machine is never finished and you just upgrade weakest parts and keep using it. I found out the hard way that buying low end GPU for otherwise weak CPU system was a waste of money, when I upgraded CPU too.

Shadowplay only utilizes the GPU, it uses NVENC, so no it’s not the reason for the stutter, the weak cpu is.

It is always fine to upgrade the GPU first and then the CPU after, if it’s too slow, I did so myself multiple times in the past. However that’s a different topic.

 

[Bomby569]

It’s not insane, it’s just better. CP2077 is one game but there are more hungry games and more will come soon as well.

running any game on ultra is a waste of resources

 

[lexluthermiester]

I mean, that video proves my point precisely, the X5675 is coming in last in every benchmark he's run and percentually, losses are approaching 40%

IF that's your take-away from the video, you've missed the context and purpose of the point. I'm not suggesting the OP of this thread buy a 3090 for their 6700. The point was to show that their CPU can still handle, within respectable and reasonable margins, a modern GPU. An RTX 2070, 2080, 3060 or 3070 would work well. Likewise in the AMD camp an RX 5700, 6700 or 6800 would do well also. And the benefit of going with a good GPU is that when it's time for a newer CPU, they will be ready with a GPU that can take their experience up a notch. This is called forward thinking and planning for the future.

 

[The red spirit]

Shadowplay only utilizes the GPU, it uses NVENC, so no it’s not the reason for the stutter, the weak cpu is.

CPU wasn't at 100% ever, so that's why I'm suspecting GPU, which definitely was. Anyway, I found two other videos and i3 is performing great without nearly as bad stuttering or no stutterign at all:

So CPU may be totally fine. I just now realized that it could have been inconsistent internet connection, after all it's an online game.

It is always fine to upgrade the GPU first and then the CPU after, if it’s too slow, I did so myself multiple times in the past. However that’s a different topic.

Yeah, that's why I said to not think about RTX 3050 or RX 590 cards, that are just too low end to last and provide value. Particularly the RX 590

 

[lexluthermiester]

OK. I have lots of good suggestion here now. Thank you all for your advice. I will sit down and use this info to make my decision. Thank you all very much.

Good luck. Once you settle on a card, chime in and let us know what you bought.

 

[eazen]

Anyway, I found two other videos and i3 is performing great without nearly as bad stuttering or no stutterign at all:

Again it is with far weaker GPUs, if you pair it with a 3090 it will be totally different. I never said the CPU isn’t sufficient for a 1070 or 1650, to the contrary.

 

[Toothless]

CPU wasn't at 100% ever, so that's why I'm suspecting GPU, which definitely was. Anyway, I found two other videos and i3 is performing great without nearly as bad stuttering or no stutterign at all:

So CPU may be totally fine. I just now realized that it could have been inconsistent internet connection, after all it's an online game.


Yeah, that's why I said to not think about RTX 3050 or RX 590 cards, that are just too low end to last and provide value. Particularly the RX 590

Just because the CPU isn't maxed doesn't mean it's not fast enough..

 

[DoLlyBirD]

4 pages of "CPU is good enough for 3090"/"CPU isn't good enough for 3060" etc etc he has a 500w PSU and $300 budget for a GPU FFS RX 6600/3050 would be a fine GPU for his budget, PSU and requirements... /thread, not sure why people are arguing the toss over $2k GPU's on a QUAD core CPU that is 5+ years old 4c/8t is OK for gaming in 2022, not the best but will still get the job done to an extent, 6-8c would be better obviously but that's not even an option, no one runs a bloody 6700 with a 3090, stop with the nonsense

 

[freeagent]

There has to be at least one guy running a 6700 with a 3090..

 

[lexluthermiester]

There has to be at least one guy running a 6700 with a 3090..

I'll agree with that. And I'd bet real money they're jones'n for a better CPU to match.

 

[Dr. Dro]

There has to be at least one guy running a 6700 with a 3090..

Closest I've had was a i7-5775C

But my motherboard went the way of the dodo, and given how expensive Z97 boards are I opted to just sell the processor

I'd be interested in seeing how it performs, tbh.

 

[80251]

The i7-5775c, intel's most unique performance CPU. I don't know why Intel gave up on the eDRAM(?) as L3 cache on CPU's. It made a positive difference and I'd rather have that eDRAM on my CPU than a integrated GPU.

 

[The red spirit]

Again it is with far weaker GPUs, if you pair it with a 3090 it will be totally different. I never said the CPU isn’t sufficient for a 1070 or 1650, to the contrary.

Not really, if it doesn't stutter with weaker cards, why it would with faster card? Makes zero sense.

Just because the CPU isn't maxed doesn't mean it's not fast enough..

Considering BF5 is supposedly decent at multithreading, well it should really be 100% utilized to be limited on CPU side. I posted other videos and yeah there's something off with that system.

4 pages of "CPU is good enough for 3090"/"CPU isn't good enough for 3060" etc etc he has a 500w PSU and $300 budget for a GPU FFS RX 6600/3050 would be a fine GPU for his budget, PSU and requirements... /thread, not sure why people are arguing the toss over $2k GPU's on a QUAD core CPU that is 5+ years old 4c/8t is OK for gaming in 2022, not the best but will still get the job done to an extent, 6-8c would be better obviously but that's not even an option, no one runs a bloody 6700 with a 3090, stop with the nonsense

Some people here thinks it's almost e-waste and can't run games for shit. We are just talking about what it can actually handle. Quad cores are still fine, you don't need anything more than 4C/8T for gaming:

If 4c/8t CPU is slow for you, then it's more related to clock speed, lack of IPC, cache, anything else but core count.

 

[eazen]

Not really, if it doesn't stutter with weaker cards, why it would with faster card? Makes zero sense.

It already stuttered in the other video and sorry if I don’t entirely trust random YouTube videos. You think putting in a 3090 will just be like that, well it’s very likely that your thought is wrong. But you can link me a review to a test. A proper review.

Quad cores are still fine, you don't need anything more than 4C/8T for gaming:

We didn’t talk about “quad cores” we talked about the 6700 and the 10100, these aren’t exactly the best quad cores.

Considering BF5 is supposedly decent at multithreading, well it should really be 100% utilized to be limited on CPU side.

This is not how it works, especially if the cpu has SMT. Basically it’s 100% utilized, it’s already at the very limit with a below mid range GPU.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It already stuttered in the other video and sorry if I don’t entirely trust random YouTube videos.

What? TechYesCity is well known and respected. Hardly "random". If you can't trust Brian, you have the problem.

 

[eazen]

What? TechYesCity is well known and respected. Hardly "random". If you can't trust Brian, you have the problem.

The same guy who said that a ancient Sandy Bridge Xeon with 6 cores and low clocks (mid 3000MHz), is enough for gaming, completely ignoring min fps/1% low etc. Yea, suffice to say I don’t agree. He’s a tech romantic, but the facts are different, a bit more rough and less romantic.

And you don’t have to resort to personal attacks just because I don’t like the video of your favorite YouTuber.

 

[The red spirit]

It already stuttered in the other video and sorry if I don’t entirely trust random YouTube videos. You think putting in a 3090 will just be like that, well it’s very likely that your thought is wrong. But you can link me a review to a test. A proper review.


We didn’t talk about “quad cores” we talked about the 6700 and the 10100, these aren’t exactly the best quad cores.

There's only 12100 that's better, and no those two are still strong quad cores. I really don't understand why there's so much stigma against those chips here. They are nice and fast, don't burn VRMs and both are cheaper than what most of you guys rocking here. I can link you a million videos to it, but it's not supposed to stutter:

LMAO some fool actually paired it with RTX 2080 Ti and it held up great minus Cyberpunk. Yeah, that Cyberpunk performance definitely was a downer, but basically every single other game ran perfectly fine and managed to saturate even 2080 Ti. OP should feel perfectly safe about upgrading GPU.

 

[eazen]

LMAO some fool actually paired it with RTX 2080 Ti and it held up great minus Cyberpunk.

And then there are many other CPU heavy games where it won’t hold up well too. So I don’t agree.

 

[The red spirit]

And then there are many other CPU heavy games where it won’t hold up well too. So I don’t agree.

Proof or it didn't happen

 

[eazen]

Proof or it didn't happen

If it has problems with CP2077 it will have problems with other cpu heavy games as well, no need to proof it multiple times. Basic logic.

 

[Vario]

depends on the exact game, my RTX 3060 won't even hit 100 FPS at 1440p with some games and I have two more real cores than you

Overall its an underwhelming graphics card, but it works. Hopefully 4000 series will release while crypto is still low.