GPU Prices Continue Falling in China with Prices 20% Below MSRP

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Graphics card prices continue to fall in China with NVIDIA & AMD holding excessive stock of RTX 3000/RX 6000 cards without enough consumers interested in buying them. The companies have resisted pressure to lower the official MSRP of these cards with most retailers now offering discounts of between 5% and 30%. The largest drops are with flagship cards such as the NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti which is now available for 9499 RMB (1415 USD) which is 38% below MSRP while the AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT is 4999 RMB (744 USD) a 37.5% reduction. The prices for all graphics cards are now below MSRP with drops amounting to 20% on average for NVIDIA and 19% for AMD.



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[TheLostSwede]

Not sure why the PRC gets all the attention. Loads of cards are even cheaper in Taiwan, as long as you're ok with Nvidia.

 

[AsRock]

OOh what a shame.

Not sure why the PRC gets all the attention. Loads of cards are even cheaper in Taiwan, as long as you're ok with Nvidia.

Taiwan is China to some lmfao.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Taiwan is China to some lmfao.

Unfortunately...

3080 12 GB cards start at around $650 here, with the 10 GB models starting at $600.
The 3070 is about the same with the 3070 Ti cards starting around $535.
3090's at $1000 and 3090 TI's at $1337.

 

[wolf]

3080 12 GB cards start at around $650 here.

I wonder what shipping and tax to Aus is.... lol

 

[Bwaze]

Which MSRP? The one the cards were launched at?

Please include that data.

Or you can allways label this sort of articles as an advertisement and ban the comments.

 

[Luisds]

Not sure why the PRC gets all the attention. Loads of cards are even cheaper in Taiwan, as long as you're ok with Nvidia.

Because Taobao is more convenient to use

 

[TheLostSwede]

I wonder what shipping and tax to Aus is.... lol

Don't you still have tax free import below a certain price?
About $42 shipping with EMS Express or $32 airmail.

Which MSRP? The one the cards were launched at?

Please include that data.

Or you can allways label this sort of articles as an advertisement and ban the comments.

Did you even look at the second picture in the article? It lists the MSRP for the cards that had one.

Because Taobao is more convenient to use

Oh my bad, so that's all what matters when it comes to graphics card pricing?
I guess you don't care about getting fake products for that matter?

 

[Bwaze]

Did you even look at the second picture in the article? It lists the MSRP for the cards that had one.

I did. MSRP for RTX 3080 10 GB is listed as 819 USD. Surely article that is telling us how cheap the cards are now would point out that they're not comparing with the launch prices? Remember the $699 RTX 3080 launch price a year and a half ago?

 

[PerfectWave]

the "only" problem they are falling ONLY in china

 

[TheLostSwede]

I did. MSRP for RTX 3080 10 GB is listed as 819 USD. Surely article that is telling us how cheap the cards are now would point out that they're not comparing with the launch prices? Remember the $699 RTX 3080 launch price a year and a half ago?

Well, I guess you should go and complain to the source then, since they collated the info.

 

[Bwaze]

Well, I guess you should go and complain to the source then, since they collated the info.

What sort of an excuse is that?

A $685 RTX 3080 is not 20% below MSRP, period.

I know that all "articles" now about the lowering GPU prices don't mention the mid-generational MSRP increase. They just conveniently forget about that. And hope we will too.

 

[TheLostSwede]

What sort of an excuse is that?

A $685 RTX 3080 is not 20% below MSRP, period.

I know that all "articles" now about the lowering GPU prices don't mention the mid-generational MSRP increase. They just conveniently forget about that. And hope we will too.

The whole news piece is based on the data provided, but sure, I don't disagree, but also keep in mind that the US MSRP is not the MSRP in other countries, so maybe that was the equivalent MSRP in the PRC at the point in time when the cards went on sale there.

 

[Chomiq]

the "only" problem they are falling ONLY in china

Not really, 3060's go for 1700 PLN, 3080's can be found for pretty much MSRP. 6900XT's go for €800 new. Used 3090's go for €1000.

 

[Bomby569]

either i am missing something or that doesn't make much sense like another user mentioned. The 3060ti is costing 428US, and the MSRP was 399USD MSRP, so it isn't cheaper, it isn't 4% down. It's still over MSRP. Can't trust that thing.

FAKE NEWS

 

[Bwaze]

The whole news piece is based on the data provided, but sure, I don't disagree, but also keep in mind that the US MSRP is not the MSRP in other countries, so maybe that was the equivalent MSRP in the PRC at the point in time when the cards went on sale there.

The point is, this is very arbitrary. Launch price of 3080 is $699. What will for instance be RTX 4080 compared to? The increased MSRP, since you can't have one for $699? The price it was sold for most of it's generational lifetime, above $1200, so even $1000 will be a "good value"?

 

[ModEl4]

To those that wondering about MSRPs and the percentages that the cards supposedly dropped, they are all wrong.
My understanding is that they took today's street prices and translated to $ with current $/Yuan exchange rate (~0.149) while on the SRPs they took the original announced SRPs that were depended on the period that they launched and what it was then the exchange rate and the market import conditions (meaning original SRPs was calculated with a range from 0.125 to 0.133 $/Yuan exchange rate) and converted them now with today's current $/Yuan exchange rate (~0.149).
So it may have wrong conclusions up to the range of 0.149/0.125 depending the card and the exchange rate that it was used in the past to set the original SRP!
In any case they have dropped a lot, just not in the amount that the report suggests...

 

[R0H1T]

the "only" problem they are falling ONLY in china

No, just bought a 3080 12GB at 650USD + taxes, it was available even cheaper(~10%) but missed that deal. This in the second biggest PC market in Asia after China.

 

[Bomby569]

No, just bought a 3080 12GB at 650USD + taxes, it was available even cheaper(~10%) but missed that deal. This in the second biggest PC market in Asia after China.

i still don't get the logic, it's a end of life card, and there should be a flood of mining cards in the market. It's not an amazing price at all, it's actually very expensive if this were normal times. Something i am missing probably.

I think people lost complete control and notion of what prices should be like.

 

[docnorth]

I wrote this comment yesterday elsewhere, but I want to repeat my complaint: It seems the ship carrying the price drops to Europe is stuck in Suez...

 

[R0H1T]

i still don't get the logic, it's a end of life card, and there should be a flood of mining cards in the market. It's not an amazing price at all, it's actually very expensive if this were normal times. Something i am missing probably.

I think people lost complete control and notion of what prices should be like.

It is what it is, and users will pay a (decent) price so long as they need it. It was this or Asus' LC 6900xt at a similar price, but that also went out of stock crazy fast. Otherwise I'd have picked the Radeon, 5% more & I wouldn't buy either! I'd wait for prime day and buy a midrange instead. Also 3xxx won't go EoL anytime soon, they can coexist with Ada like Turing these days.

 

[Bomby569]

It is what it is, and users will pay a (decent) price so long as they need it. It was this or Asus' LC 6900xt at a similar price, but that also went out of stock crazy fast. Otherwise I'd have picked the Radeon, 5% more & I wouldn't buy either! I'd wait for prime day and buy a midrange instead. Also 3xxx won't go EoL anytime soon, they can coexist with Ada like Turing these days.

of course they don't go away or lose performance, they just lose value and performance relative to the new cards. A 1080ti now is a low end card.

 

[R0H1T]

By EoL you meant they won't be produced anymore or that they'll become kinda obsolete, especially wrt 4xxx series or 7xxx from AMD?

 

[Bomby569]

By EoL you meant they won't be produced anymore or that they'll become kinda obsolete, especially wrt 4xxx series or 7xxx from AMD?

obviously in production terms, people will be using 3000 series and 6000 series cards from NVDA and AMD in 10 years time and more.

 

[R0H1T]

The 6/7/8 nm nodes, from TSMC or Samsung, will be in use for the foreseeable future as the latest nodes are super expensive & in high demand from Apple/MTK/AMD/QC/Intel/Nvidia et al. AMD or Nvidia won't stop producing GPU's on the older nodes unless the PC market totally collapses, though you could see the bigger dies being retired/replaced eventually as the next gen releases.