SSD virgin's first SSD.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

Hi, I am an ssd virgin, never used one, never wanted them, considered them extreme waste of money.
But off late due to lowering of prices of ssd's and increase in durability I wanted to dabble onto a cheap 512GB ssd + caching solution. But investigating further found the caching software to be costly enough to no warrant buying a 1tb ssd instead. My usage are windows installation and game installation. Dont need top of the line.
I would be using i7 12700F + MSI B660m Mag Mortar.
The following SSD's are within my budget, would they do the job, which one should I choose:
1) ANT ESPORTS 690 NEO SATA 2.5 SSD 1TB
2) Gigabyte 1TB Internal SSD (GP-GSTFS31100TNTD)
3) Western Digital Green SN350 1TB NVMe SSD (WDS100T3G0C)
4) Western Digital Green PC 1TB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (WDS100T2G0A)

These are available in my area and within my budget.
Thank you.

joemama · Jul 13, 2022

I wouldn't consider the first 2 considering the brand
For the SSD type, definitely get a M.2 one, it's 2 cables less than a sata thus a lot easier for installing and cable management
For the NAND type, in terms of lifetime, SLC>MLC>TLC>QLC, so usually I would avoid QLC ones
So from all above, 3 looks like a good option

Edit: 3 is a QLC, I was looking at the 960G version and it was TLC

Gungar · Jul 13, 2022

Definitely not the SN350 since it's QLC.

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

Don't buy a crappy SSD, as the end result will be crap.
The WD Green are some of the worst SSDs out there.
I would go for the Crucial BX500 (SATA) or a WD Blue SN550/570, since you should have an M.2 slot on that motherboard.
The WD Blue is also fine as a SATA drive.
The Patriot P300 is another options that should be within your budget range.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

Gungar said:
Definitely not the SN350 since it's QLC.

I do not have any other choice, which one if not no 3?

I found the Western Digital Green SN350 NVMe M.2 960GB SSD (WDS960G2G0C), this one is a little short on the 1tb mark but is TLC. Is this good enough?

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
I do not have any other choice, which one if not no 3?

I found the Western Digital Green SN350 NVMe M.2 960GB SSD (WDS960G2G0C), this one is a little short on the 1tb mark but is TLC. Is this good enough?

Don't buy the WD Green, it's one of the worst SSDs in the market.
I gave you multiple better options.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

TheLostSwede said:
Don't buy the WD Green, it's one of the worst SSDs in the market.
I gave you multiple better options.

The Crusial bx500 is out of stock and the sn550 way out of my budget.
Thank you, sorry to bother.

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
The Crusial bx500 is out of stock and the sn550 way out of my budget.
Thank you, sorry to bother.

Did you have a look on Amazon?
The BX500 is in stock there.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

TheLostSwede said:
Don't buy the WD Green, it's one of the worst SSDs in the market.
I gave you multiple better options.

Isn't the bx500 and Gigabyte 1TB Internal SSD (GP-GSTFS31100TNTD) are both 3d nand drives, wouldn't they perform similarly?

AMF · Jul 13, 2022

wd sn850 500GB IS GOOD AND CHEAP

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
Isn't the bx500 and Gigabyte 1TB Internal SSD (GP-GSTFS31100TNTD) are both 3d nand drives, wouldn't they perform similarly?

There's more than just the flash that matters when it comes to SSDs. Controllers matter a lot. Never seen that Gigabyte drive before and I have no idea what hardware it uses.
Maybe this would fit your budget?

https://www.amazon.in/Patriot-P300-PCIe-Power-Consumption/dp/B082BX6999/

AMF said:
wd sn850 500GB IS GOOD AND CHEAP

The OP appears to have a budget of around US$90 or less.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

TheLostSwede said:
Did you have a look on Amazon?
The BX500 is in stock there.

BX500 is just 480gb, won't be enough for me.
Also, I am not from western advanced country, prices are very different here.

TheLostSwede said:
Maybe this would fit your budget?

https://www.amazon.in/Patriot-P300-PCIe-Power-Consumption/dp/B082BX6999/

The OP appears to have a budget of around US$90 or less.

This is a little out of my budget (which in entirety including graphics card is way way over budget) seems right. I might go for it or stick with hdds.
Just wanted to ask isnt any modern ssd many times faster than a modern hdd? I was made to believe that. Your patriot ssd is a very good recommendation but wouldn't a lowly sn350 be better than sticking with a wd 7200rpm 256mb cache hdd?

Valantar · Jul 13, 2022

Any SSD is indeed generally faster than any HDD*, especially for random reads and writes, which represent the most meaningful, perceptible improvement in performance in real life. However, a bad SSD can bring with it various poor characteristics (unstable performance, performance that degrades sharply under sustained loads, etc.), and some low end SSDs are just barely better than HDDs in most characteristics. They're still better, but not worth paying for when a marginally more expensive drive can give you a massive performance increase, making them a bad purchase overall.

*with the obvious caveat that there are always exceptions to everything

joemama · Jul 13, 2022

Do you have other options from brands like Samsung, Micron, Kingston or Adata?

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

joemama said:
Do you have other options from brands like Samsung, Micron, Kingston or Adata?

Samsung, Kingston and Adata yes.
How about 2 ssds:
https://www.adata.com/jo/specification/587?tab=specification 256gb for windows
https://www.adata.com/jo/specification/587?tab=specification 512gb for games
Cheaper than sn350 but lose 256gb. What say you?

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
BX500 is just 480gb, won't be enough for me.
Also, I am not from western advanced country, prices are very different here.

That's why I looked at Amazon India, where the 1TB drive was in stock.

8tyone said:
This is a little out of my budget (which in entirety including graphics card is way way over budget) seems right. I might go for it or stick with hdds.
Just wanted to ask isnt any modern ssd many times faster than a modern hdd? I was made to believe that. Your patriot ssd is a very good recommendation but wouldn't a lowly sn350 be better than sticking with a wd 7200rpm 256mb cache hdd?

I would rather go for a 512 GB SSD, but a better drive, than a 1 TB drive of any any of the ones you've looked at, as they're all garbage.
Yes, load times would be much faster, but a poor quality SSD will cause you problems down the road, as the WD Green drives are known to fail very fast and the performance is sometimes just as bad as using a hard drive. No idea about the SN350.

r9 · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
Hi, I am an ssd virgin, never used one, never wanted them, considered them extreme waste of money.
But off late due to lowering of prices of ssd's and increase in durability I wanted to dabble onto a cheap 512GB ssd + caching solution. But investigating further found the caching software to be costly enough to no warrant buying a 1tb ssd instead. My usage are windows installation and game installation. Dont need top of the line.
I would be using i7 12700F + MSI B660m Mag Mortar.
The following SSD's are within my budget, would they do the job, which one should I choose:
1) ANT ESPORTS 690 NEO SATA 2.5 SSD 1TB
2) Gigabyte 1TB Internal SSD (GP-GSTFS31100TNTD)
3) Western Digital Green SN350 1TB NVMe SSD (WDS100T3G0C)
4) Western Digital Green PC 1TB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (WDS100T2G0A)

These are available in my area and within my budget.
Thank you.

"considered them extreme waste of money."
Speed improvement out of SSD is greater than upgrading the CPU and RAM for general system responsiveness.

bug · Jul 13, 2022

Crucial MX500 is a great drive on the cheap. Available in M2 and 2.5" form factor, if you need to shave off a few bucks.

Amazon.in : crucial mx500 1tb

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

TheLostSwede said:
That's why I looked at Amazon India, where the 1TB drive was in stock.

I would rather go for a 512 GB SSD, but a better drive, than a 1 TB drive of any any of the ones you've looked at, as they're all garbage.
Yes, load times would be much faster, but a poor quality SSD will cause you problems down the road, as the WD Green drives are known to fail very fast and the performance is sometimes just as bad as using a hard drive. No idea about the SN350.

The 1tb crucial drive is Rs 15000+ maybe you made an error.
Also, take a look at this comment and give your insight:
Post in thread 'SSD virgin's first SSD.' https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ssd-virgins-first-ssd.296784/post-4793439

Again, what do you think about these:

ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R

Buy Online ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R In India At Best Price. Delivery within 48 Hours Any Where In India.

www.onlyssd.com

Kingston A400 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G

Kingston UV400 240GB SSD is powered by a four-channel Marvell controller for incredible speeds and higher performance compared to a mechanical hard drive.

www.onlyssd.com

Kingston NV1 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD SNVS/1000G

Buy Online Kingston NV1 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD SNVS/1000G In India At Best Price. Delivery within 48 Hours Any Where In India.

www.onlyssd.com

Gungar · Jul 13, 2022

The Kingston NV1 is QLC.

But the other 2 are nice, probably the adata SU650 is the better option of the 3.

Edit : A400 and SU650 are very similar though.

Vario · Jul 13, 2022

If you are going to do it, get a 2TB NVMe and skip the SATA based drives.

I'm using a couple Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB, but as you can run PCI-E 4.0, try Samsung 980 Pro or Sabrent Rocket 4.0, or WD SN850.

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

Vario said:
If you are going to do it, get a 2TB NVMe and skip the SATA based drives.

Sir, I do not even dream about a 2tb nvme.

TheLostSwede · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
The 1tb crucial drive is Rs 15000+ maybe you made an error.

Maybe you made an error? I don't make mistakes like that.

https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-BX500-NAND-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07YD579WM/

8tyone said:
Also, take a look at this comment and give your insight:
Post in thread 'SSD virgin's first SSD.' https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ssd-virgins-first-ssd.296784/post-4793439

Again, what do you think about these:

ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R

Buy Online ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R In India At Best Price. Delivery within 48 Hours Any Where In India.

www.onlyssd.com

Kingston A400 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G

Kingston UV400 240GB SSD is powered by a four-channel Marvell controller for incredible speeds and higher performance compared to a mechanical hard drive.

www.onlyssd.com

NVMe is almost guaranteed to be better than SATA.
QLC is not really recommended though.
You're aware that TPU does do SSD reviews, right?

Kingston NV1 1 TB Review - Slow but Affordable

The Kingston NV1 is the company's most affordable M.2 NVMe SSD. Priced at just $85 for the 1 TB version, it offers a tremendous value proposition. Performance numbers in our review of the Kingston NV1 are disappointing though, but the attractive pricing will still make it an option for many.

www.techpowerup.com

Vario · Jul 13, 2022

8tyone said:
Sir, I do not even dream about a 2tb nvme.

What is your budget in Rupee?
Can you budget this?

https://www.amazon.in/Samsung-Internal-Solid-State-MZ-V8V1T0/dp/B08TJ2649W/ref=sr_1_10?crid=T2ZMAHMATDU5&keywords=nvme%2B1tb&qid=1657718300&sprefix=nvme%2B1t%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-10&th=1

8tyone · Jul 13, 2022

TheLostSwede said:
Maybe you made an error? I don't make mistakes like that.
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https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-BX500-NAND-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07YD579WM/

NVMe is almost guaranteed to be better than SATA.
QLC is not really recommended though.
You're aware that TPU does do SSD reviews, right?

Kingston NV1 1 TB Review - Slow but Affordable

The Kingston NV1 is the company's most affordable M.2 NVMe SSD. Priced at just $85 for the 1 TB version, it offers a tremendous value proposition. Performance numbers in our review of the Kingston NV1 are disappointing though, but the attractive pricing will still make it an option for many.

www.techpowerup.com

Also, how about 2 ssds:
https://www.adata.com/jo/specification/587?tab=specification 256gb for windows
https://www.adata.com/jo/specification/587?tab=specification 512gb for games

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SSD virgin's first SSD.

8tyone

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Gungar

TheLostSwede

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8tyone

TheLostSwede

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8tyone

TheLostSwede

News Editor

8tyone

AMF

TheLostSwede

News Editor

8tyone

Valantar

joemama

8tyone

TheLostSwede

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r9

bug

8tyone

ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R

Kingston A400 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G

Kingston NV1 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD SNVS/1000G

Gungar

Vario

8tyone

TheLostSwede

News Editor

ADATA Ultimate SU650 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III 3D NAND Intern SSD ASU650SS-960GT-R

Kingston A400 2.5 Inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G

Kingston NV1 1 TB Review - Slow but Affordable

Vario

8tyone

Kingston NV1 1 TB Review - Slow but Affordable

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