Corsair Expects Losses to Reach $11 Million for 2Q 2022

[Dave65]

I don't know why, but I see Corsair as gimmicky except for the PSU's. I think its their fans and ICUE software..I know it's decent stuff.

 

[mechtech]

Proof of that?

umm
Their power supplies are typically made by CWT, etc.
Their Keyboards - switches are made by cherry or others, do they have an actual keyboard factory?
Their Monitors - Panels are LG, Samsung, AUO
Their Ram - chips and pcbs by others

 

[kapone32]

umm
Their power supplies are typically made by CWT, etc.
Their Keyboards - switches are made by cherry or others, do they have an actual keyboard factory?
Their Monitors - Panels are LG, Samsung, AUO
Their Ram - chips and pcbs by others

The must make their own Cases?

 

[mechtech]

The must make their own Cases?

Honestly.......no clue. They are so many factories in China and Taiwan I really wonder if any of the consumer PC cases we buy in North America are actually manufactured by the company's sticker who is on it??

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Easy rma unfortunately for them it's probably catching up to them plus overpriced products

Software wise they have always been terrible icue is just the latest vdware.

I still like their ml series fans but they jacked the prices up so.

 

[mechtech]

You may not have actually realized it, or meant it, but your connection is pretty good. Bar Russia, Canada has the world's largest Ukrainian disapora population. So depending on how you look at it, it's possible those Ukrainian developers could indeed be -- if I may be cheeky -- Canadian.

That said, I'd personally hope that isn't the case because I wouldn't want my country tied to iCue in any way whatsoever (YMMV).

We have a pretty big mix of everyone here. Many Ukrainians, Croatians, Serbians, Polish, Finns, etc. here when I was growing up, most of them working in the mines. My grandfather was Polish, I don't know how many beets, potatoes, perogies, and cabbage rolls, etc. I ate while growing up. It's was like I travelled without ever going anywhere lol.

 

[kapone32]

We have a pretty big mix of everyone here. Many Ukrainians, Croatians, Serbians, Polish, Finns, etc. here when I was growing up, most of them working in the mines. My grandfather was Polish, I don't know how many beets, potatoes, perogies, and cabbage rolls, etc. I ate while growing up. It's was like I travelled without ever going anywhere lol.

Every livable Continent on Earth has representation in Canada,

 

[TheLostSwede]

umm
Their power supplies are typically made by CWT, etc.
Their Keyboards - switches are made by cherry or others, do they have an actual keyboard factory?
Their Monitors - Panels are LG, Samsung, AUO
Their Ram - chips and pcbs by others

Welcome to reality, it's how 95% of their competitors operate as well.
There are only so many PSU design and manufacturing companies, but at least companies like Corsair and Cooler Master gets involved in the design and do their own customisations of standard PSU designs, unlike a lot of the cheaper brands.
I guess you missed that Corsair made their own optical switches? And yes, Corsair does actually have its own assembly fabs.
And you expect every monitor brand to make their own panels? Do you have any idea what it costs to build a fab for that?
Corsair makes their own PCBs and have their own assembly in Taiwan. Not even Kingston, which is about 100x bigger in the DRAM module space, makes their own RAM chips, because fabs are expensive.

I really don't get your complaints here. But go on, hate some more on a company that does exactly the same as all of its competitors.

 

[AlwaysHope]

I dont honestly believe their products suck. Quite the opposite actually. I have a lot of Corsair products and they're quite good and hold up for a long time.

....

Agreed, have invested in a total of 2 of their product lines this year. 1 of which has 10 yr warranty. The other, 5 yrs but they are case fans.

 

[Mussels]

No wonder they did a backflip after the iCue 4 disaster and tried to fix their reputation

Not necessarily, i have my LL120 fans connected to my motherboard for control, rather that thee Corsair controller and software. But otherwise i agree, iCUE is awful.

No you don't.

You have your LL120 fans connected to a corsair RGB hub, connected to your motherboard.

isn't that an ASUS exclusive thing?

No it's a "Lying about how it's connected" thing that's driven me nuts in several threads.

Pretty much not using any CPU at all.

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Open a program that uses the mic, with a corsair headsets mic as the active input (like discord) and watch iCue and the windows audio service balloon

This is iCue + LGHUB, since i noticed both do this after they integrated Nv broadcast - i lost my seperate screenshots in another thread somewhere

 

[Bomby569]

the "let's ask absurd prices because this idiots will buy anything" model is not working? i'm shocked.

The must make their own Cases?

they design them, but they don't make Cases.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Open a program that uses the mic, with a corsair headsets mic as the active input (like discord) and watch iCue and the windows audio service balloon

This is iCue + LGHUB, since i noticed both do this after they integrated Nv broadcast - i lost my seperate screenshots in another thread somewhere

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Nope, no change.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

I'm waiting for the day FanControl can detect the Commander PRO/CORE box hub. If it does, I'll be ditching iCUE entirely and just use that along with SignalRGB or OpenRGB for lighting controls since iCUE or Corsair decided that only the expensive products can get the fancy lighting presets while the cheaper ones do not.

 

[mechtech]

Whoa

Welcome to reality, it's how 95% of their competitors operate as well.
There are only so many PSU design and manufacturing companies, but at least companies like Corsair and Cooler Master gets involved in the design and do their own customisations of standard PSU designs, unlike a lot of the cheaper brands.
I guess you missed that Corsair made their own optical switches? And yes, Corsair does actually have its own assembly fabs.
And you expect every monitor brand to make their own panels? Do you have any idea what it costs to build a fab for that?
Corsair makes their own PCBs and have their own assembly in Taiwan. Not even Kingston, which is about 100x bigger in the DRAM module space, makes their own RAM chips, because fabs are expensive.

I really don't get your complaints here. But go on, hate some more on a company that does exactly the same as all of its competitors

I wasn’t hating or complaining at all. All I said in my original post is that it’s a challenging market because of that. Most companies just rebrand items and more competition usually means smaller margins. There is lots of Corsair stuff in my home.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

No you don't.

You have your LL120 fans connected to a corsair RGB hub, connected to your motherboard.

What is controlling the RGB on the Corsair fans? is it iCue? no, it is the motherboard, so hub or not they are controlled by the motherboards RGB control. You just wont accept how it works, it's pointless explaining to you. All the hub does is chain the 3 fans together. If i took it out and soldered the 3 fans in series, then connected them directly to the motherboard without the hub or iCue, what then would you accept they are connected to and controlled by the motherboard? I am betting not. There Is NO electronics in the hub, all it does is chain the 3 fans serially, do you understand that, i think not.

The fans would still work connected to the board, with or without the hub, it is a dumb device that is just serially connecting the fans. Is it because it has corsair on it you don't get it? All the fans are is strips of 5050 leds, they do not need the corsair RGB controller to make them work, or the hub, you could connect a single fan to a 3 pin connector on yyour board and it would work fine. How would you connect 3? by serially connecting them together, which is what the hub does.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Whoa

I wasn’t hating or complaining at all. All I said in my original post is that it’s a challenging market because of that. Most companies just rebrand items and more competition usually means smaller margins. There is lots of Corsair stuff in my home.

Well, sorry if I misunderstood, but there's so much hate for Corsair in this thread, it just came across as one more post with more hatred for a company that does what every other company in this space does.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I'm waiting for the day FanControl can detect the Commander PRO/CORE box hub. If it does, I'll be ditching iCUE entirely and just use that along with SignalRGB or OpenRGB for lighting controls since iCUE or Corsair decided that only the expensive products can get the fancy lighting presets while the cheaper ones do not.

I use open RGB for all the lighting in my case, including the LL120 fans. I do not have any corsair software, or a commander pro/RGB controller at all, the fans work fine with any colour.

 

[Pictus]

How about their gaming mice, which last two years before developing double-click?

Our friends, the 80 million clicks switches TTC Gold 80M or Kailh GM8.0
From https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/tjiysr "I have soldered kailh (2.0, 8.0) , Huano (blue shell blue dots), and TTC gold (gold pink, 30m, 80m). From my experience the 80m are very tactile and louder than the 8.0. The 8.0 are less tactile but very snappy.
The 8.0 are easy to spam and on the 80m give a very good feedback. Hope that helps in some way !"

BTW, I forgot to mention Corsair has a mouse with optical switches, so no double-click.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Mice/FPS-Fast-Action-Mice/M65-RGB-ULTRA-WIRELESS-Tunable-FPS-Gaming-Mouse/p/CH-9319411-NA2

 

[Bomby569]

Our friends, the 80 million clicks switches TTC Gold 80M or Kailh GM8.0
From https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/tjiysr "I have soldered kailh (2.0, 8.0) , Huano (blue shell blue dots), and TTC gold (gold pink, 30m, 80m). From my experience the 80m are very tactile and louder than the 8.0. The 8.0 are less tactile but very snappy.
The 8.0 are easy to spam and on the 80m give a very good feedback. Hope that helps in some way !"

sure, but that's not a solution for i would say 90% of consumers.

 

[Endeavour]

As long as they keep making their SF750 power supply, everything is fine

 

[Pictus]

sure, but that's not a solution for i would say 90% of consumers.

I wish more mouse had swappable switches like the Asus

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Mice/FPS-Fast-Action-Mice/M65-RGB-ULTRA-WIRELESS-Tunable-FPS-Gaming-Mouse/p/CH-9319411-NA2

 

[Bomby569]

I wish more mouse had swappable switches like the Asus

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Mice/FPS-Fast-Action-Mice/M65-RGB-ULTRA-WIRELESS-Tunable-FPS-Gaming-Mouse/p/CH-9319411-NA2

i'm going to speculate here, but for the price you and me can get one of those switches i assume corsair would get them for half of that, so i really see no reason Corsair uses inferior ones on mouses that aren't properly cheap and have probably very good margins. I mean there is a reason, profit and greed even at the cost of image brand. Then again money.

I think it has already been discussed, when you go for ease of use, interchangeable parts, manufacturing becomes a lot more expensive, so product also gets a lot more expensive. It was avoidable if they weren't greedy.

My view anyway.

 

[Pictus]

My view anyway.

I agree 100%.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Absolutely this. iCUE caused issues on 3 of my systems; high CPU on one, and the other two had BSODs which traced back to iCue drivers/services.

... needs a seperate HUB ...

They have a separate hub, I use the older commander pro (version with 6 fans, 4 temp sensors). This way also I can run hwinfo64 to pickup the temp sensors and I don't have to have iCue running to drive the RGB, only run iCue to change settings. iCue could have been better in a lot of ways and once my commander pro kicks the bucket my RGB days are done with Corsair.

Corsair Good:
- Power Supplies (the reason I decided to try other Corsair products)
- RAM (although perhaps not for OC)
- Commander Pro (hardware control for lighting and fans when iCue is not running)
- Strafe RGB MK.2 keyboard (the USB port on the keyboard was a big plus for me)
- LL Series Fans (but not the price)
- Light strips

Corsair Bad:
- iCue Software Issues
- Headset microphones weak (need Equalizer APO to fix)
- Headset RGB (can't turnoff without iCue running)
- Early GPU water blocks with the leaking problem

 

[Mussels]

They have a separate hub, I use the older commander pro (version with 6 fans, 4 temp sensors). This way also I can run hwinfo64 to pickup the temp sensors and I don't have to have iCue running to drive the RGB, only run iCue to change settings. iCue could have been better in a lot of ways and once my commander pro kicks the bucket my RGB days are done with Corsair.

Corsair Good:
- Power Supplies (the reason I decided to try other Corsair products)
- RAM (although perhaps not for OC)
- Commander Pro (hardware control for lighting and fans when iCue is not running)
- Strafe RGB MK.2 keyboard (the USB port on the keyboard was a big plus for me)
- LL Series Fans (but not the price)
- Light strips

Corsair Bad:
- iCue Software Issues
- Headset microphones weak (need Equalizer APO to fix)
- Headset RGB (can't turnoff without iCue running)
- Early GPU water blocks with the leaking problem

Watch out for a known bug there - HWinfo reading the settings freezes the corsair service, and it locks into last known settings until the service is reset. Shutdowns don't fix it.
Easy to spot, because icue wont show voltage readings any more.

The easy fix is to disable the corsair/asetek setting in HWinfo, but that stops you reading those readings