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Processor | 13700KF Undervolted @ 5.4, 4.8Ghz Ring 190W PL1 |
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Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 w/ Arctic P12 Fans |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2x 2TB WDC SN850, 1TB Samsung 960 prr |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | SLIGER S620 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | RoyalAxe |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
Here to rant about the boost algorithms Intel is using. Thread-based (1/2t 1 core boost) is total nonsense -- only a tiny % of apps can take advantage of that most overclockers are or should be using power/ temp based limits.
For example: here is my 170W limited 12600K @CPU-Z and Cyberpunk
Here is usage during cyberpunk:
Almost all modern applications, and windows, are constantly spawning multiple lower intensity threads, in this case intel CPUs run at a low all core-boost clock, and leave a ton of performance on the table instead of using the true load/power demands of the CPU. In most cases, a 5.4ghz single core boost is completely pointless, and the CPU could run all cores at that boost until it goes past a certain wattage or temperature then gear down as needed.
Does AMD Zen3 do this as well? Is it time to kill the "thread" counter boost algorithms and use true limits like wattage and temperature? The only time it seems to work is in benchmarks that force 1T/ NT at max wattage.
For example: here is my 170W limited 12600K @CPU-Z and Cyberpunk
Here is usage during cyberpunk:
Almost all modern applications, and windows, are constantly spawning multiple lower intensity threads, in this case intel CPUs run at a low all core-boost clock, and leave a ton of performance on the table instead of using the true load/power demands of the CPU. In most cases, a 5.4ghz single core boost is completely pointless, and the CPU could run all cores at that boost until it goes past a certain wattage or temperature then gear down as needed.
Does AMD Zen3 do this as well? Is it time to kill the "thread" counter boost algorithms and use true limits like wattage and temperature? The only time it seems to work is in benchmarks that force 1T/ NT at max wattage.