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So I was taking inventory of all my drives & backups and realized that I am still using a drive from Nov 2006 regularly. Ran some tests to re-verify the drive and it's still going strong. SMART data is still good. And it still benches well.
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Not bad for a 15 year old drive.

The next oldest is a Toshiba 120GB drive from June 2010;
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Again, old drive still going strong.
 
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I'm finally home & able to play with my old/new system. Thanks again QuietBob for the FireFox link. That one installed fine.
Here's a couple HDD tests. HD Tune & Crystal Disk Mark on 3 74GB WD Raptors in RAID0.

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I installed the X1900 Crossfire Edition after a re-paste & it works!

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Crossfire is enabled! And I did a slight OC to the cards, but the CPU is still stock.

Here's a baseline 3dMark03.

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And here's an overclocked video with Crossfire enabled.

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Crossfire is enabled! And I did a slight OC to the cards, but the CPU is still stock.

Here's a baseline 3dMark03.



And here's an overclocked video with Crossfire enabled.
Nice! I've got an X1900 CF and an X1950 XTX but no dongle, not sure if they can crossfire because of the different vram but it'd be fun to try anyway.
 
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I don't remember if the X1900 & X1950 would work together. It would be fun to test it out if you can find the cable.

I've got the E6600 2.4GHz CPU up to 3.6GHz. It was super easy because I found my OC notes in a text file on a flash drive. Just plugged in the numbers & off she went! :clap:

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Got this for my legacy systems because I was tired of creating <2GB partitions on my 64GB USB stick just so I could copy files to them.

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I think it's a cold joint problem. Adrian likely need to go over all the solder joints around the CPU. As the board is bent, the joint in question is being forced to make contact. Easy fix, just takes time and a bit of solder.
Its crazy what he ends up doing with this A2000.
 
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A bit of an update on the EeePC. I took the original 1gb DIMM out of the EeePC and upgraded it to a 2gb stick, which worked perfectly. I Installed the 1gb stick out of the EeePC into my Latitude D620, upgrading it to 2x1gb ram instead of 1x1gb+1x512mb (which was already an upgrade over the factory config).

I have been essentially given up attempting to upgrade the storage in the EeePC due to it actually using a fairly uncommon and expensive PATA Mini PCIe drive, and it will not work with the MSATA drive I purchased for it.

Due to this and the fact I am too lazy to install XP on a bunch of systems, I simply made a Mint 19.3 XFCE 32 bit live CD and decided on Sysbench to determine CPU performance. Not as nice as Cinebench, however it will be simple and provide performance data for comparative purposes. It also can run on a specified number of threads just like Cinebench, which means I can get both single and multi core performance.

So far I have started to run benchmarks and compile some results, but I will come back and post it plus some IPC tests if possible when complete.

A bit of a side note, the D620 is surprisingly fast and perfectly usable on this livecd of Mint. It runs circles around the latest version of Lubuntu (x64) and XP SP3 32 bit (360 EE Modified for browser) which are both installed onto the SSD in this D620. For example, I am currently typing this message with some music from youtube in the background. Experiencing 0 slowdown, nor any issues with playback, even just with the default firefox OS. I can switch between tabs, open OS menus, and even other applications without any performance issues at all, which is VERY impressive given this laptop has a very low end Core 2 Duo T5500 (1.66ghz).
 
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Its crazy what he ends up doing with this A2000.
Right? It's a mickey-mouse job but if it works... I would have flipped the speaker the other way so the voice-coil canister was on the CPU, but that's just me..

I have been essentially given up attempting to upgrade the storage in the EeePC due to it actually using a fairly uncommon and expensive PATA Mini PCIe drive, and it will not work with the MSATA drive I purchased for it.
You couldn't find one? Are you stateside?
 
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You couldn't find one? Are you stateside?
Found a few on eBay that were too short. Found a single one the correct length, but it was $18+5 shipping for a 16gb drive, which is a bit silly. Yeah I'm in the US
 
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I have been essentially given up attempting to upgrade the storage in the EeePC due to it actually using a fairly uncommon and expensive PATA Mini PCIe drive, and it will not work with the MSATA drive I purchased for it.
Hm. Can you post a picture of the interface? Given how simple it is to convert CF cards to Pata (aren't they essentially the same signalling?), there might be some way to work around this.
 
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Hm. Can you post a picture of the interface? Given how simple it is to convert CF cards to Pata (aren't they essentially the same signalling?), there might be some way to work around this.
It's a miniPCIe port. It takes a drive specifically engineered for it.


@RyzenMaster.sys
Maybe one of these might work for the drive you already have.
 
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Given up on the sysbench. It was producing very very weird results. For example in single core a Celeron 420 1.6ghz 512k Conroe got 226 where a Pentium 4 630 3ghz Prescott 2m got 167.

Conroe ipc is much better than netburst, but it's not enough to make it 35% faster with half of the clockspeed and 1/4 the cache. Additionally a pentium m 1.8 was scoring higher than my T5500 in single.

Moving to 7zip.
 
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Any clue if Mint 19.3 32 bit can run on AMD K7 based CPUs?

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I keep getting this when I try.

I am having issues getting it to run. I also tried debian 32 bit and it doesn't even get far enough to error.

I am using workarounds to make it USB boot btw, but this worked just fine for my socket 754 board.

Here are some of the results I have compiled. Performance metrics are from composite score from the 7zip compression/decompression benchmark, running in Linux Mint 19.3 32 bit XFCE. CPUs were chosen based on several factors and should represent CPUs on different ends of the spectrum.

When comparing raw single core performance, the the Atom N270 is just behind a 2.26GHz Northwoods Pentium 4. Overall this places is very close to the bottom of the chart, however this performance is at a significant clock speed deficit versus most of the chart.
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In the multi core test, the Atom is able to utilize hyperthreading is able to stretch its legs versus the competition without any multithreading capabilities. The N270 climbs the chart slightly finds itself around the performance of a 2.8GHz Prescott 1M Pentium 4.
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IPC wise, I would have liked to have locked all of the CPUs to the exact same frequency, which wasn't possible. All of the Netburst based CPUs tested have a locked multiplier and relatively low FSB speeds, which makes it difficult to underclock these CPUs significantly. Instead, I opted to divide each CPUs' single threaded score by its frequency in GHz. This may not perfectly represent the IPC if all CPUs were locked to the same frequency, as performance does not always scale perfectly with increasing frequency. However, this should provide at least a general ballpark.

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In this test the Atom N270 does valiantly. While its IPC is not on par with even low end Core 2 or K8 based CPUs, It puts netburst to shame. The N270 has similar IPC to the Pentium 4 HT 630, despite having 1/4 the cache, and a 2.5W TDP versus an 84w TDP.

Overall, this CPU did not perform well upon release, and its performance is simply unusable in modern day. However, I still find these results impressive simply due to how constrained this CPU is. With a power budget many times lower than every other CPU on this list, it still manages to hold its own. This really also shows just how bad the Via C7 is.

Overall I spent far too much time on this just to investigate a super low end CPU from over a decade ago, especially since I spent an incredible amount of time attempting to run this benchmark on several other platforms and failing. As this post is already too long I won't elaborate.
 

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Retro Hardware has a lot of goodies from the era I collect for...:rockout:

 
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Well this was annoying waste of a couple hours.

Decided to switch over my Win98 gaming pc to an Athlon 700 TB setup instead of the PIII 866 setup it had just for fun.
The HDD I was using was also very slow (too slow even for win98) so I used my Maxtor 40GB drive instead.

Got the OS, drivers & a couple games installed and I was just about to setup the logitech joystick but it stopped responding. Went ahead and reset the system and it kept hanging on drive detection. :(

In the half hour I was away letting Mechwarrior 4 mercs copy over the HDD decided to up and die on me. :shadedshu:

Oh well, I didn't like that drive anyway. Was loud enough to drown out all the fans.
 
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Well this was annoying waste of a couple hours.

Decided to switch over my Win98 gaming pc to an Athlon 700 TB setup instead of the PIII 866 setup it had just for fun.
The HDD I was using was also very slow (too slow even for win98) so I used my Maxtor 40GB drive instead.

Got the OS, drivers & a couple games installed and I was just about to setup the logitech joystick but it stopped responding. Went ahead and reset the system and it kept hanging on drive detection. :(

In the half hour I was away letting Mechwarrior 4 mercs copy over the HDD decided to up and die on me. :shadedshu:

Oh well, I didn't like that drive anyway. Was loud enough to drown out all the fans.
Have you considered a solid state alternative such as a compact flash to IDE adapter, or similar?

CF to IDE is plug and play. More reliable and higher performance than a 25 year old spinner.
 
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Have you considered a solid state alternative such as a compact flash to IDE adapter, or similar?

CF to IDE is plug and play. More reliable and higher performance than a 25 year old spinner.
It's more for the experience rather than convenience. If I wanted fast and reliable I'd just play these games on my daily instead. :p

I'll just poke around for another ide hdd or two.
 

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Got a txt that one package has arrived. It means....


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Now I can die happily in peace. :love:





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Playing on my 2nd PC. X5675 @ 4.55GHz & R9 290X @ 1111/1414 is way more capable than I thought.
 
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So I was taking inventory of all my drives & backups and realized that I am still using a drive from Nov 2006 regularly. Ran some tests to re-verify the drive and it's still going strong. SMART data is still good. And it still benches well.
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Not bad for a 15 year old drive.

The next oldest is a Toshiba 120GB drive from June 2010;
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Again, old drive still going strong.


You got some prototype engineering sample drives there or something interested by the FBI under the blurred area? :D
 
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