AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Retailer Pricing 10% to 13% Higher Than Ryzen 5000

[ratirt]

If you make a new built based on a Ryzen CPU, would you invest in a 7000 series with 10% increase in price or would you rather buy a 5000 series CPU?

Depends what the performance uplift is in comparison to the previous gen.
if it's 10% performance increase it is a rip-off. Node change to 5nm alone should give around 10% performance increase so if the price hike is 10% as well meaning AMD charges customers for the node change (it comes with a cost and obviously it is more expensive) advertising as 10% performance increase but no arch improvement.
If on the other hand the performance is 20% higher, well it is something to consider since not only the node boosts performance but AMD managed to improve some things in the architecture as well.
I'd also wait for official pricing not some rumored retailer price

 

[Denver]

They are giving too much importance to these obviously false prices.

 

[progste]

Those aren't at msrp, are they?
Don't buy at "premium" prices, don't reward this behavior (whether it's from AMD or the seller).

 

[Denver]

TSMC pricing also went up as well as materials. If performance is vastly improved then I think the price increase is worth the investment. Of course a new motherboard and DDR5 memory are also required.

- The Zen4 die is smaller than Zen3.
- These prices make no sense in the current scenario and do not encourage people to migrate to a new platform. The previous leak seems more reliable to me.

 

[trsttte]

If I'm building/upgrading at the moment I'll definitely for for this from Microcenter plus they giveaway 240GB SSDs as well.

I wouldn't depend on the free ssd for anything important but Microcenter sure has been pushing a lot for to maintain and increase their market presence. I wish they existed in Europe

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Waiting for 2023... pfft.

 

[gdp77]

First of all, these (if valid) are "early-adopters" mark up prices. Like every new CPU generation, in 3-6 months prices will normalize.

Secondly, RPL will destroy ZEN4, according to early leaks/performance benchmarks, so AMD will drop prices if they don't want to loose even more market share. ZEN4 will be able to match AL single thread performance (photoshop / gaming etc). RPL will be uncontested. That's why, you simply w8 for RPL release and then buy cheap ZEN4 cpus.

It will be like 2017 original ZEN days, when AMD offered great value, but the gaming and single thread performance crown were owned by Intel.

Let's hope that DDR5 prices will also come down to earth.

 

[Haile Selassie]

At those prices they can keep it.
I'm definitely getting a kick of Intel being the budget friendly alternative.
If I'm building/upgrading at the moment I'll definitely for for this from Microcenter plus they giveaway 240GB SSDs as well.
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The overstock must be terrible...

 

[PapaTaipei]

The overstock must be terrible...

Yep

 

[beautyless]

One painful situation I had was happened with my Socket-A I bought at the end era of the socket.
At first, I want to use it for 5 years (2004-2009) but Vista come, DDR2 come. When I look for upgrade, this happen.
- I've only AGP, all good performance AGP GPUs are priced premium.
- I've only DDR. I want to use Vista, I need more RAM, I found that DDR 1GB are become rare and pricey. DDR2 are cheaper.
- CPU upgrade from Sempron 2200+ are available but Socket 939 are so good.
It's not reasonable to upgrade only something. So I stop and upgrade to new full system C2D E4300 instead, in just 2 years.
Buying hardware in early life of new socket is ideal for me, you can live with it longer before it get too old.

 

[Dave65]

As an AMD fanboy, shame on you AMD for acting like Intel..

 

[HD64G]

I don't believe those prices will have anythng to do with the retail prices when the sales begin. Just take into consideration that 6700 will be the successor to 5800 and the 6800 could have 10 cores which will be a new price and performance tier. I don't think with the DDR5 and new board prices being high that AMD will milk on the CPUs this time around. Especially when Intel is/will be very close in performance.

 

[Chrispy_]

Buying hardware in early life of new socket is ideal for me, you can live with it longer before it get too old.

DDR4 still has a few years to run, it's not the same as DDR vs DDR2 where there was a clean switchover and DDR(1) supply died off very quickly. Brand new products from Intel and AMD are still being made (and planned for future release) well into 2023.

My rule of thumb is to avoid the first 6 months of any platform. You'll pay a premium, you'll get teething troubles, and by the time you're happy with the end result there is usually a refresh on the horizon that makes significant improvements to price/performance and motherboard vendors usually do a much better job of a new platform for the second generation. B350 and X470 boards were a bit shit, even some of the flagship models. B450 and X570 boards were vastly better both in BIOS quality and VRM performance.

 

[maxfly]

Deja vu article.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

These prices, how very disappointing AMD.

What do you expect, Intel, AMD and nVidia none of them cares about us, till they need us.

 

[napata]

- The Zen4 die is smaller than Zen3.
- These prices make no sense in the current scenario and do not encourage people to migrate to a new platform. The previous leak seems more reliable to me.

There's still massive margins on CPUs so lower prices or equal prices to Zen 3 are very much possible but N5 is almost twice as expensive as N7 while the CCD die is only 10% smaller. There's also the fact that the IOD is on N7 instead of 12nm from GlobalFoundries so also more expensive. I still think these prices are just placeholders. Early price leaks for AL were also higher than actual prices IIRC.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Maybe so they can lower the prices and make us believe it's a deal then

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

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[JAB Creations]

thats way too overprived

im salty

Thats literally intel behavior,

YEAH! AMD SHOULD ONLY SELL STUFF FOR CHEAP MAKE NO PROFITS AND WHO CARES IF THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.

 

[ODOGG26]

I still dont understand why people complain when a company releases their new product with more performance, new node, etc.. for more money. Its like they want them to price their new product for the same price as their last product. Its quite hilarious. No one wants a price increase but they need to understand why the price increased. I would get it if the price increased by 30-50% then sure I would be upset too but 10-13% is not the end of the world. Same with Zen 3. I mean huge performance upgrade over Zen 2 for mostly a $50 dollars increase across the board and people were so mad.

 

[Soul_]

YEAH! AMD SHOULD ONLY SELL STUFF FOR CHEAP MAKE NO PROFITS AND WHO CARES IF THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.

This is why I hate reading comments from corporate apologists, who pretend to understand business, who think they understand economics and capitalism, and the balance between the two..

I built 5900x machine after the prices stabilised in fall 2021, but when they weren't acceptable, I advised my friend an Intel machine in winter 2020 because AMD was price gouging at that time..

Progress from capitalism view, and a genuine expectation from end users is, cost per unit performance coming down with each iteration. This is typically handled by introducing higher performance devices at the same tier with each iteration, without changing the price for that particular tier.

What we have witnessed from AMD recently is nothing short of price gouging, while initially suggesting how they are 'the last bastion of honest capitalism' against the price gouging competitors. Given the chance, they did exactly the same.

So yes, you can keep on riding your high horse, while the rest of us ensure that we try to get best bang for our buck without being mindless fanboys.

 

[r9]

I wouldn't depend on the free ssd for anything important but Microcenter sure has been pushing a lot for to maintain and increase their market presence. I wish they existed in Europe

Lot of times they are cheaper than even the online retailers and you can just go there and pick it up instead of waiting to get mailed so that's pretty nice.

The overstock must be terrible...

Personally I think they just ordered bunch of the those two components to get people in. They don't make a lot if any money(if any) from just those two components but for most people they'll build a whole machine around it and that's where they make their money.

 

[Denver]

There's still massive margins on CPUs so lower prices or equal prices to Zen 3 are very much possible but N5 is almost twice as expensive as N7 while the CCD die is only 10% smaller. There's also the fact that the IOD is on N7 instead of 12nm from GlobalFoundries so also more expensive. I still think these prices are just placeholders. Early price leaks for AL were also higher than actual prices IIRC.

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I read that 5nm(U$17k) should be 80% more expensive than 7nm(U$ 9346). Zen4 is 14-15% smaller, considering a 65% increase in a chip that costs about $17,99 or less,
it doesn't justify such a big increase.

Also, 7nm can get up to triple the density of 12nm, offsetting the effect of the more expensive process.

 

[ZoneDymo]

hey while we are at it, might as well post this right?

because clearly motherboards will generally cost 900 euro, for sure, most def.

(again what possible benefit could this article have for anyone)

 

[docnorth]

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