Viability of GTX 1070 for light gaming

[lexluthermiester]

Just catching up a little and at 900w gpu peak targets and cooling of all parts.

Right? Things are getting crazy!

 

[nomdeplume]

There is a bump up. But the power require bumps with it. I am not aware of any 2070's that only need a 6+2 power connector. For that PSU, a 1080 really is your ceiling GPU. Now if you upgrade your PSU the options change for you. Does your case take a standard ATX PSU? If so, your options are plentiful.

I sort of answered my own question digging into the GTX4xxx and competitors offerings. Average outdoor temps and the cost of power are anything but stable to downward trending. Crazy stuff indeed.

ATX psu with enough room to easily use that non-modular. I'm cheap and the Seasonic has been reliable. Think I got it for US$20 and could expect to spend considerably more buying a new one. Ideally a quick repaste/pad on the card and start looking for 16/32 RAM would be it.

 

[Blaeza]

I've just thought, you could always wait and get an Intel card?

 

[nomdeplume]

I've just thought, you could always wait and get an Intel card?View attachment 257897

Actually I thought they would a bit quicker out of the gate. Multiple years and Billions later I'm not sure the graphics division is seeing much employee turnover due to lack of consumer market penetration. Seems more likely they are making slow progress in workstation and industrial applications their larger focus. As is the case with their SSD where the quality NVMe are priced well above consumer levels

 

[silentbogo]

The OP only has a 6+2 from a 520W PSU. That's the limitation. A 1070ti is out.

1) 1070Ti is a 180W card, lots of which came with a single 8-pin connector.(incl. my abovementioned Cerberus, all Windforce family of cards, most EVGA offerings etc).
2) If you are talking about his Seasonic, it should have 2x6+2. I have a similar SS 520W 80+ GOLD unit, which was in my main rig before +5VSB started glitching. Did absolutely fine running any GPU up to 250W for many-many years.

Besides PSU restriction noted above. 600w gold or wherever the sweet spot is might be close to as much as used cards I'm looking at.

Why? If your Seasonic is still chugging along, it'll handle anything you throw at it (within reason). Heck, after mine broke down, I took it to the office, fixed the standby rail and put it in my HP Z620 workstation. I replaced it with SSR-550FX, which is currently running R7 3800X paired with 3070Ti(@85% PL during summer, and because I don't have much time for games). According to my smart outlet the whole thing pulls around 400W from the wall, which translates to "very near the sweet spot" for my PSU, and well within operating range.
A GTX1070Ti with i5-8400 combo isn't that power-hungry at all.

 

[lexluthermiester]

1) 1070Ti is a 180W card, lots of which came with a single 8-pin connector.

Fair enough. The only models I've seen had 6+8 as they're generally the factory OC variety.

 

[xtreemchaos]

i see nowt wrong with a 1070, still a good card , the FE models had 1x 8 pin if i remember right.

 

[Voluman]

It is okay for not just light gaming.
PNY XLR8 has 8 pin power connector too (VCGGTX10708XGPB-OC-BB). It is 2 slot and normal height too.

 

[GreiverBlade]

my MSI Armor OC also came with a 8pin only

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

The database does show what power connectors each come with. Look around for a good deal on any of them, and check it against the database.

TechPowerUp

Graphics card and GPU database with specifications for products launched in recent years. Includes clocks, photos, and technical details.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[nomdeplume]

A GTX1070Ti with i5-8400 combo isn't that power-hungry at all.

Age of this psu in kind with doubling typical power draw has been in the corner of my mind. In the end there is really only one way to find out.

If careful testing introduces weird behaviors the downtime might actually get me to fix the second USB-A on front panel of the case and make a determination about the 3.5mm jack starting to push away.

The database does show what power connectors each come with. Look around for a good deal on any of them, and check it against the database.

TechPowerUp

Graphics card and GPU database with specifications for products launched in recent years. Includes clocks, photos, and technical details.

www.techpowerup.com

Thanks, TPU has really come into its own as an online resource.

 

[silentbogo]

Age of this psu in kind with doubling typical power draw has been in the corner of my mind.

It's still well within rated power, and your PSU is no older than 7 years. Passing 10 is around that point where I'd start worrying.
Those are reliable AF, even past their warranty, and even with some abuse along the road. That's why I've upgraded to another Seasonic (paid a hefty premium, but it came with 10 year warranty).
My old unit has seen it all - running X5650 above 5GHz with ridiculous power draw, checking if 1080 will survive inside my ITX case, testing dual-socket LGA2011 Supermicro boards etc. etc. etc.
Ironically the thing that "temporarily" killed it was a standby voltage controller - the thing that works the most time, but pulls the least weight comparing to everything else. Pretty sure I'll get at least another 5-6 years out of it without worrying about bad caps or exploding FETs, and with current prices it definitely beats settling for some shitty offbrand PSU, or .... khm-khm... sorry... khm-hm... Gigabyte P650b

 

[nomdeplume]

Took the last few days to confront all of my options. What really happened was I found my two favorite TPU threads had been bumped yesterday (Ghetto mods and that awful disgusting Helpdesk Nightmares thread). While dusting out my computer afterwards I discovered my psu in fact has two 6+2 PCIe that would allow use of a 1070ti or maybe 1080 without hitting the 520w power ceiling.

Now I'm struggling to put aside the impaired reasonings integral to all low rent modification attempts. In my case it would be the long contemplated full ATX board installation that is so very very close to being executable. Key to this is finding a board with the pins for audio/usb/etc mounted horizontal with the mb to avoid fouling anything landing near the psu. The combination of larger and more capacitors would almost certainly require a new psu along with faster RAM to match the board.

Hmmm....

 

[lexluthermiester]

Took the last few days to confront all of my options. What really happened was I found my two favorite TPU threads had been bumped yesterday (Ghetto mods and that awful disgusting Helpdesk Nightmares thread). While dusting out my computer afterwards I discovered my psu in fact has two 6+2 PCIe that would allow use of a 1070ti or maybe 1080 without hitting the 520w power ceiling.

Now I'm struggling to put aside the impaired reasonings integral to all low rent modification attempts. In my case it would be the long contemplated full ATX board installation that is so very very close to being executable. Key to this is finding a board with the pins for audio/usb/etc mounted horizontal with the mb to avoid fouling anything landing near the psu. The combination of larger and more capacitors would almost certainly require a new psu along with faster RAM to match the board.

Hmmm....

If you've got the connectors, go for the 1080 of you're choice. You could even get an RTX 2070 or 2080.

 

[Jeffredo]

I was doing fine with my light gaming needs @ 1440p with a GTX 1070. It recently died and fortunately I found a decent deal on an EVGA RTX 2060 for $229.99 at Newegg. Had it now for a few days and its performance is pretty much the same as the GTX 1070 it replaced, maybe a bit better. Basically, I'm not happy to have to replace the GTX 1070, but I'm glad I found a decent deal (for these times) on something very similar in performance.

 

[hat]

I'll still be using my 1070 for quite some time. I wouldn't mind replacing it with a 3060, but for the gaming I do... it's not worth the price. So I wait.

 

[Mussels]

I still have a 1070Ti
I use it on my 4K TV.

Modern titles it sure cant handle at 4K, but since my TV supports 1440p, it handles that quite well

 

[nomdeplume]

1070 Strix I had planned to buy went to another buyer. Seller then tried to hard sell me on a blower 1080.

That set me down the path of doing a bit more research on the subject. At a bit of an impasse currently. 1070 STRIX was more inspiration than seeking it out.

I was doing fine with my light gaming needs @ 1440p with a GTX 1070. It recently died and fortunately I found a decent deal on an EVGA RTX 2060 for $229.99 at Newegg. Had it now for a few days and its performance is pretty much the same as the GTX 1070 it replaced, maybe a bit better. Basically, I'm not happy to have to replace the GTX 1070, but I'm glad I found a decent deal (for these times) on something very similar in performance.

$200 dollar mark for a used card or equitable new one is a wakeup. Thanks for that.

Hate to admit something like a 12GB Phoenix GTX3060 is starting to look slightly more attractive than whatever 10 or 20 series I'd resort to buying before Winter.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hate to admit something like a 12GB Phoenix GTX3060 is starting to look slightly more attractive than whatever 10 or 20 series I'd resort to buying before Winter.

And with such a card you'd have an experience better than that of a GTX1080 at 1080p. It will would be worth the extra money.

 

[GreiverBlade]

1070 Strix I had planned to buy went to another buyer. Seller then tried to hard sell me on a blower 1080.

That set me down the path of doing a bit more research on the subject. At a bit of an impasse currently. 1070 STRIX was more inspiration than seeking it out.



$200 dollar mark for a used card or equitable new one is a wakeup. Thanks for that.

Hate to admit something like a 12GB Phoenix GTX3060 is starting to look slightly more attractive than whatever 10 or 20 series I'd resort to buying before Winter.

a 3060 12gb would be good (if not overkill for 1080p60, GET A 1440P panel! ...later ) if the price is right and if second hand, if not too much abused (mining can be harsh but some cards are fine )
my RX 6700 XT did cost me 450chf discounted (650chf normal price, 850chf mining craze price) while my GTX 1070 did cost me 526chf 6yrs ago (and it was a mining craze price, kinda regreted it ) , the cheapest 3060 12gb is 389.90chf for me (about the same in $, USD:chf is 1.04:1)

 

[nomdeplume]

And with such a card you'd have an experience better than that of a GTX1080 at 1080p. It will would be worth the extra money.

a 3060 12gb would be good (if not overkill for 1080p60, GET A 1440P panel! ...later )

Currently hooked up to an old 1080i tv that found a second life when my screen died recently. 2K/4K DP monitor in one of the larger sizes vs any +40" tv with HDMI is a larger consideration than I was admitting to myself.

MB having every other connection was a nice way to extend the life of an older color correct monitor and finicky USB 2.0 devices. As is I've had to resort to an old laptop with W10 installed for the latter that failed to work on W11. As I say, reached an impasse brought on by the price of RAM and GPU when Intel 8th gen came out.

For the sake of discussion, where along the spectrum of recent processors do you reach something that wouldn't cpu limit the base performance of a 3060?

 

[GreiverBlade]

For the sake of discussion, where along the spectrum of recent processors do you reach something that wouldn't cpu limit the base performance of a 3060?

mmhhh @1080p CPU is a little bit more important than @1440p and above, an i5 8400 would be the weakest link indeed
my previous CPU was a i5 6600K although i did not get into major bottlneck with the 1070 since i played mostly @1620p

the current R5 3600 i use, is a walk in the park with the RX 6700 XT for 1440/1620p CPU is mostly around 60-80% usage when the GPU is at 100%, as such for my CPU upgrade path i see very little issue upcoming even staying on AM4 platform.

for you, well you could seek a second hand i7 9X00 (your mobo support up to the i9-9900KF with BIOS 1703)

the i7 9700 would have a slight bottleneck compared to the latest gen but the FPS given by that in combo with a 3060 would be enough at 1080p imho

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/intel-core-i7-9700/bottleneck/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060?res=1&quality=ultra

the i5 8400 for comparison (FPS are still sufficient, technically )

Intel Core i5-8400 Bottleneck RTX 3060? - CPUAgent

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[TechnoLadz]

The OP only has a 6+2 from a 520W PSU. That's the limitation. A 1070ti is out.

Asus ROG Strix Gaming Advanced 1070 Ti only has a 6+2 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-rog-strix-gtx-1070-ti-gaming-advanced.b4989

 

[lexluthermiester]

For the sake of discussion, where along the spectrum of recent processors do you reach something that wouldn't cpu limit the base performance of a 3060?

No, you'll be fine. That 8400 will will not bottleneck a 3060.

 

[tussinman]

Hate to admit something like a 12GB Phoenix GTX3060 is starting to look slightly more attractive than whatever 10 or 20 series I'd resort to buying before Winter.

3060 is good (about on par with a 2070) but it doesn't get recommend much because in most of the world the 3060 still has an inflated price from the crypto boom

Where I live for example the 3060 is 60-70% more expensive then the 2060 but is only about 15-20% faster