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Asus vs MSI Motherboards. Which one is better?

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According to Wikipedia, Asus has 14700 employees and 28.4$ billion of net income, yet MSI has only 2672 employees and 16,9$ billion of net income. As a company Asus looks bigger and better. But as a general motherboard product line, which one is more premium? Asus or MSI?

ps. I know we should only look for features when buying a motherboard, but I'm asking here only quality. Quality wise which one would you choose?
 

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Top companies in Taiwan are TSMC, Foxconn, Asus....

Example: when you're looking for job, they say TSMC, Asus is here....
 
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If you seek premium PC components, there is only ASUS at the top. MSI comes after that and then GIGABYTE.
 
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Irrelevant, both brands' high end boards are amazing, buy whichever you fancy. ASUS has a pretty stable track record with BIOS updates, but I never really heard complaints about MSI in that department, and their Z690-A Pro motherboard has been a hit - I know a lot of people that got one and they never had a single hitch with their 12700Ks.

That said, there are 2 things on PCs that I swear by: ASUS ROG motherboards and Corsair Dominator Platinum memory. Without these two, a PC build ain't mine. :oops:
 
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They both make excellent and trash motherboards... The main thing is decide how much you want to spend and then compare what offerings both have in that price range.... Asus might have a much better 400 usd mobo but Msi may have a much better 200 usd mobo or vice versa.

I usually just compare these categories in order of importance to me

1. Power Delivery
2. Connectivity
3. Aesthetics
4. Price
 
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If you seek premium PC components, there is only ASUS at the top. MSI comes after that and then GIGABYTE.
Having said that, we could provide more help if you let us know the specifics and the details.
 
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If you seek premium PC components, there is only ASUS at the top. MSI comes after that and then GIGABYTE.

Not sure why Gigabyte must be 3th in the list...
Gigabyte has it's premium boards as well if you didn't know, I have an EATX Z690 Aorus Master board which didn't come cheap either...
Asus and MSI both have also motherboards below Gigabyte Aorus.
 
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YMMV, but I can care less about premium-ness when CPUs now aren't worth OCing from a cost-reward perspective.
 
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For example I always see military class components in Asus but MSI has none.
Also Asus always have ECC (memory correction) whilst MSI doesn't care.
 
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Not sure why Gigabyte must be 3th in the list...
Gigabyte has it's premium boards as well if you didn't know, I have an EATX Z690 Aorus Master board which didn't come cheap either...
Asus and MSI both have also motherboards below Gigabyte Aorus.
I've built countless many PCs over the years for customers, for friends and for family. In my experience and in terms of BIOS releases and stability and overall quality of the product, ASUS has always been there for me and has never let me down whereas with GIGABYTE in particular I've had issues here and there (not unfixable though I admit) that's why it's in 3rd position. MSI is a step above GIGABYTE that's for sure. ASUS is not perfect either, though overall it takes the crown definitely.

Having said that, in recent years, MSI and GIGABYTE caught up with ASUS and I can easily recommend them.


... when CPUs now aren't worth OCing from a cost-reward perspective.
Couldn't agree more!

but MSI has none.
TOMAHAWK and TORPEDO
 
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Don't have much experience with MSI boards but so far with Asus and their budget-mid range B boards I had no problems.
At least for my use case they were just fine and gave me no trouble. 'Had a Strix B350 F for almost 4 years and now a more budget Prime B660 that works perfectly with my 12100F'
 
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Couldn't agree more!

Reminds me about Chinese vloggers testing the most absolute garbage mobos they could find for a 12600K and the worst that ever happened was VRM throttling at P95 AVX and all were perfectly fine when not.
 
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I like MSI mobo's, most of my mobo's have been MSI, but they all make mistakes sometimes, i guess the best is buy whatever is best at that time. No vendor only does the best products at any one time.

I used to buy lots of ASUS stuff some time ago, but their stuff is usually more expensive and for no particular reason, you're just paying for the sticker
 
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Reminds me about Chinese vloggers testing the most absolute garbage mobos they could find for a 12600K and the worst that ever happened was VRM throttling at P95 AVX and all were perfectly fine when not.
Steve from HUB does that to ASROCK. All the credit to Steve for keeping us the consumer in the know.

Even in gaming, the VRMs must be capable for a part like the 12600K to perform at its advertised speeds otherwise why get a 12600K if you're gonna restrict the CPU with a low-quality MB, just get a 12400(F) or 12100(F) instead.
 
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They both make excellent and trash motherboards... The main thing is decide how much you want to spend and then compare what offerings both have in that price range.... Asus might have a much better 400 usd mobo but Msi may have a much better 200 usd mobo or vice versa.

I usually just compare these categories in order of importance to me

1. Power Delivery
2. Connectivity
3. Aesthetics
4. Price
This. We're basically down to 4 mother board builders left: Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and AsRock. They can all have stellar and abysmal models.

Also, if you nitpick, you can find faults across the board, too. For example, Asus is not always Linux-friendly. The one time I needed support, MSI replied back to me with a phrase from the manual. MSI also used smaller flash chips on recent AMD boards and could not offer Zen3 support without dropping support for Zen1. And so on.

Just decide what's important to you (for example, I value dual-BIOS or any other ability to recover from a failed BIOS update) and compare models.
 
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i would pick ASUS first, i love there ROG boards but i have to wait a while before buying one because of the bloody price i also like G/B Aorus boards but there not quite as good as ROG in my view the drivers arnt up to Par.
 
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For example I always see military class components in Asus but MSI has none.
MSI has 4 main series when it comes to motherboards: Enthusiast "MEG", high-end "MPG", mid-range "MAG" and the entry level "Pro" series. Don't get fooled by the entry level phrase! MSI's entry level motherboards are of top-notch quality compared to other brands in this segment of the market in particular their VRM performance is reliable and worthy for the price they ask like the MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4.

On the whole:
MAG series are a sort of military range of motherboards like MAG Tomahawk, MAG Torpedo, etc.
MPG boards are the bridge between MAG and MEG series, like MPG Edge, MPG Force, etc.
MEG is reserved for "money is no issue" type of people that buy the likes of the Z690 GODLIKE.

... ECC (memory correction) ...
Error-correcting code memory in general are used in workstations because stability of the system is of utmost importance.

Beginning with the release of Alder Lake platform by Intel in Nov 2021, we can now have that luxury in the DDR5-supported PCs since "on-die ECC" are required to be present on DDR5 modules.
 

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Beginning with the release of Alder Lake platform by Intel in Nov 2021, we can now have that luxury in the DDR5-supported PCs since "on-die ECC" are required to be present on DDR5 modules.
We really don't. ECC is a chain going from the memory DIMMs, over the motherboard traces and into the memory controller. You don't have ECC if this whole chain isn't covered. DDR5 only implements its part of ECC because it generates too many errors at the speeds it is working at, to be viable without correcting (some of) them.
 
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Beginning with the release of Alder Lake platform by Intel in Nov 2021, we can now have that luxury in the DDR5-supported PCs since "on-die ECC" are required to be present on DDR5 modules.

My Corsair Dominator Platinum Sticks:


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Which one is better?
The green one, of course.

Haven't we had this discussion a couple hundred times before?

When a company makes dozens (100s? 1000s?) of products over a wide range of price points - especially when those products consist of 100s of components made by other companies - you cannot with any validity declare one entire company as better than the other. It just makes no sense.

Does ASUS make great motherboards? Yes.
Does MSI make great motherboards? Yes.

Does that mean "all" of their motherboards are great? NO!!!

So if you want to do a fair and honest comparison, pick two specific boards, by exact model number, then compare.
 
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For example I always see military class components in Asus but MSI has none.
Also Asus always have ECC (memory correction) whilst MSI doesn't care.

When it comes to consumer products, "military" anything is marketing fluff. Mil-class and mil-spec don't necessarily mean what manufacturers hope they imply.
 
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As a company Asus looks bigger and better. But as a general motherboard product line, which one is more premium? Asus or MSI?
Asus is one of if the largest IT networking companies out there, they are the 5th largest PC oem out there, they make cell phones and other tech devices. They are much larger than micro star international
For example I always see military class components in Asus but MSI has none.
I recall the marines used Asus motherboards in the battle of Khe Sanh during the Vietnam war....it's just marketing speak and in reality means nothing to the consumer.
Does ASUS make great motherboards? Yes.
Does MSI make great motherboards? Yes.

Does that mean "all" of their motherboards are great? NO!!!

So if you want to do a fair and honest comparison, pick two specific boards, by exact model number, then compare.
This!

FYI, personally I find the Asus BIOS easier to work with than the MSI (I currently have a MSI mobo as my gaming mobo) and in fact think Gigabyte does a better job than MSI in BIOS as well. I think currently MSI gives you a bit more than Asus with certain mobos (they seems to be overpriced against the competition more often than not). In the end it really is about what your needs are, your budget, what is on sale, etc., etc.,
 
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... DDR5 only implements its part of ECC ...
... ERROR DETECTION METHOD: NONE ...




Intel official paper, ECC MEMORY SUPPORT for the 12900K.
Intel official paper, ECC MEMORY SUPPORT for the W680 chipset (that IS also part of the ALDER LAKE PLATFORM).

Out of 8700K to 12900K, only the latter supports ECC memory. 8700K, 9900K, 10900K and 11900K.

Here's what I've said:
Beginning with the release of Alder Lake platform by Intel in Nov 2021, we can now have that luxury in the DDR5-supported PCs since "on-die ECC" are required to be present on DDR5 modules.

There is also an article over at TweakTown, and even better one at Synopsys which for enhanced stability it says and I quote "As this scheme does not offer any protection against errors occurring on the DDR channel, on-die ECC is used in conjunction with side-band ECC for enhanced end-to-end RAS on memory subsystems." and from the same article there's another quote "As DDR5 and LPDDR5 support much higher data-rates than their predecessors, they support additional ECC features for enhancing the robustness of the memory subsystem. On-die ECC in DDR5 and Link-ECC in LPDDR5 are two such RAS schemes to further bolster the memory subsystem RAS capabilities."

Only DDR5 requires "on-die ECC", meaning if you opt for a DDR5-supported PC such as the Alder Lake platform, that DDR5 platform will provide you with better, faster, enhanced and more stable experience than it was possible before the launch of DDR5.


IN MY ORIGINAL POST AS I HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS COMMENT, I DID NOT MENTION ANY SPECIFIC BRANDS, ANY SPECIFIC MEMORY BRAND, ANY SPECIFIC MOTHERBOARD BRAND, ANY SPECIFIC MEMORY MODULE MANUFACTURER, ANY SPECIFIC CHIPSET BY INTEL.

ONLY 12TH GEN INTEL CORE PROCESSORS (IN BOLD) AND XEON LINEUP OF PROCESSORS SUPPORT ECC MEMORY. THERE IS NO OFFICIAL DOCUMENT REGARDING WHETHER THE UPCOMING 13900K (RPL-S PLATFORM) SUPPORTS ECC MEMORY.

I SAID IN GENERAL (ON THE WHOLE), WITH THE ALDER LAKE PLATFORM, WE CAN HAVE THAT LUXURY IN THE DDR5-SUPPORTED SYSTEMS, ALDER LAKE PLATFORM CAN OPERATE WITH FASTER, ENHANCED STABILITY THAN ANY PREVIOUS MAINSTREAM ARCHITECTURES.

Hope you find it helpful as I did. Cheers
 
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Hi,
Personally I wouldn't buy anything from msi seeing they were caught scalping their own gpu's.

As rock or asus well now you have a little better comparison
My next might be as rock seeing asus has got completely stupid price wise.
 
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