Transcend Rolls Out SSD225S SATA SSD with Up to 720TBW Endurance

[btarunr]

Transcend rolled out the SSD225S, a 2.5-inch SATA client-SSD offering high endurance. The drive is available in 250 GB, 500 GB, 1 TB, and 2 TB variants, with the highest capacity offering an endurance of 720 TBW. The 1 TB variant offers 360 TBW, the 500 GB variant offers 180 TBW, and the 250 GB variant 90 TBW. Taking advantage of the SATA 6 Gbps interface, the drive offers up to 560 MB/s of sequential reads, up to 500 MB/s of sequential writes, and up to 80,000 IOPS 4K random access. The company didn't mention the NAND flash type, or controller make, but that it is DRAMless, offers SLC caching, LDPC, wear-leveling, and DEVSleep. Transcend is backing these with 3-year warranties.



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[Prima.Vera]

Good for backups and file storage, but if that's the case, why only 2TB?? This should be sold with sizes up to 12, 16TB...
We are staying with 2TB for a decade almost now...

 

[ncrs]

Good for backups and file storage, but if that's the case, why only 2TB?? This should be sold with sizes up to 12, 16TB...
We are staying with 2TB for a decade almost now...

Samsung 870 EVO 2TB has a 5 year warranty (or 1200TBW, whichever comes first), so Transcend's offering doesn't sound that enticing...
What is more Samsung offers a 4TB version with 2400TBW.

 

[aussiebear]

This product series has the exact same warranty length and endurance as the Samsung 870 QVO series...The difference is that the Samsung product has slightly faster sequential writes (500 MB/s vs 530 MB/s), as well as offering 4TB and 8TB models. Transcend only offers up to 2TB.

 

[Dammeron]

Good for backups and file storage...

Samsung 870 EVO 2TB has a 5 year warranty (or 1200TBW, whichever comes first)...

As ncrs showed - compared to others, it's terrible for backups and storage. And this thing dares to call itself "endurance"? I have a cheap Kingston A2000 NVMe drive that has 600TBW for a 1TB drive (5 years warranty).

Also - no DRAM? GTHO...

 

[shilka]

Good for backups and file storage, but if that's the case, why only 2TB?? This should be sold with sizes up to 12, 16TB...
We are staying with 2TB for a decade almost now...

If you want a bigger SSD you can get a NimbusData ExaDrive 50 TB for only $10.000 US or a 100 TB for only $40.000 US

 

[silentbogo]

The company didn't mention the NAND flash type

You can simply deduce it from TBW.
720TBW/2TB = 360 DW, which is shit even by today's QLC standards. Heck, I've already clocked nearly half that on my relatively fresh 1TB NVME drive.

 

[Synthwave]

You can simply deduce it from TBW.
720TBW/2TB = 360 DW, which is shit even by today's QLC standards. Heck, I've already clocked nearly half that on my relatively fresh 1TB NVME drive.

Yeah, that's far from a typical usage though. My system drive has 342 days of power on time and 18,75 TB lifetime writes, the secondary drive (games + work) has 613 days of power on time and 4 TB lifetime writes.

tl;dr: For most people, the controller will die much sooner than the NAND itself. Besides, those numbers are just an estimate, not exact values, your drive may very well live considerably longer or can way before you reach the given TBW value. If you are THAT heavy on writes, you should look for enterprise stuff.

 

[Quitessa]

That endurance is terrible, this is why I'm getting old enterprise ssd's off ebay, they have Petabytes of endurance and are usually barely worn in.

 

[bonehead123]

why only 2TB?? This should be sold with sizes up to 12, 16TB...We are staying with 2TB for a decade almost now...

Because that's they way they wantz it, so you have to keep buyin moar & moar of the small p-o-s drives, so the MoFu'n greedy-assed mfgr's can keep rakin in da moolah from a soon-to-be-dead product category as long as possible.....

 

[silentbogo]

Yeah, that's far from a typical usage though

It's not if you think of it by itself, but it should play a role when you take into account competition and other factors.
Their current 220Q costs about as much as an overpriced QVO. Pretty sure that 225s won't be cheaper than that. For the same amount of money you have many other options, like WD Blue, which has slightly less TBW, but comes with 5 years of warranty (perfect for storage drives, especially if active usage is not your priority but capacity is), or myriad of cheaper but a tad older TLC drives with exceedingly larger TBW and that same 3 year warranty, or if you want a solid state NAS - just throw in a few more bucks for WD REDs. I'd go for TLC. Some of my older TLC SSDs still work after 7-8 years of abuse.

 

[80251]

Samsung 870 EVO 2TB has a 5 year warranty (or 1200TBW, whichever comes first), so Transcend's offering doesn't sound that enticing...
What is more Samsung offers a 4TB version with 2400TBW.

The Samsung 870 EVO series also has a terrible rep. for reliability.

Yeah, that's far from a typical usage though. My system drive has 342 days of power on time and 18,75 TB lifetime writes, the secondary drive (games + work) has 613 days of power on time and 4 TB lifetime writes.

tl;dr: For most people, the controller will die much sooner than the NAND itself. Besides, those numbers are just an estimate, not exact values, your drive may very well live considerably longer or can way before you reach the given TBW value. If you are THAT heavy on writes, you should look for enterprise stuff.

SSD controller deaths I'm guessing don't give much in the way of warning or recovery right? If that's the most common failure point (i.e. SSD controller failure) then TBW are pretty much meaningless...

 

[silentbogo]

The Samsung EVO series also has a terrible rep. for reliability.

Which for Transcend is even more drastic. Lost count of how many of their NVME and SATA drives I had to replace in customer PCs(mostly cheap local prebuilts).
They make some excellent flashdrives and external enclosures, though....

 

[ncrs]

The Samsung 870 EVO series also has a terrible rep. for reliability.

From my personal experience Samsung's SSDs have been very reliable. I've seen over 600 SSDs deployed over the years, going back to 830 series, and am yet to see a Samsung fail. I know this is anecdotal, but a fairly wide sample of both hardware and time.

 

[80251]

From my personal experience Samsung's SSDs have been very reliable. I've seen over 600 SSDs deployed over the years, going back to 830 series, and am yet to see a Samsung fail. I know this is anecdotal, but a fairly wide sample of both hardware and time.

Have you owned any 870 Evo series SSD's? There's a whole thread devoted to the 870 Evo series failures and the reviews on newegg and amazon both indicate more failures in the last 6 months than any other 4 TiB SSD I researched.

 

[ncrs]

Have you owned any 870 Evo series SSD's? There's a whole thread devoted to the 870 Evo series failures and the reviews on newegg and amazon both indicate more failures in the last 6 months than any other 4 TiB SSD I researched.

Yes, a few, including a 2TB one in my PC and 1TB in my laptop. Haven't had any problems yet. It very well can be regional or series-bound.

 

[80251]

@ncrs
How long have you owned those 870 Evos?

 

[ncrs]

@ncrs
How long have you owned those 870 Evos?

The oldest and most banged up from the ones I manage is from mid-2021 and apparently exceeded the rated 150TBW by quite a lot:

The ones in my personal gear are from 2022.

 

[80251]

That's a lot of data to write in less than a year, but I think 150 TBW is too low for a 870 EVO, even my old 850 Pro 256 and 850 Pro 128 were rated for 150 TBW.

Maybe the problem for 870 Evos didn't extend to the 250 GB models.