LG Launches 14- and 16-inch Ultra PC Laptops in Europe

[TheLostSwede]

LG's Intel based gram-series of notebooks have proven quite popular in the Ultrabook segment. However, its Ultra PC models are built around AMD hardware and although there have been a 13.3-inch model in the past, the company has announced its new 14- and 16-inch models. Both models are based around either a Ryzen 5 5625U or a Ryzen 7 5825U processor, which is built on AMD's Barcelo chips. This sadly means that features like USB4, DDR5/LPDDR5 and PCIe 4.0 support are out the window. This is because Barcelo is a refresh of Cezanne, which means both CPU families based on the Zen 3 architecture. On the plus side, this means the pricing will be quite competitive, but more on that in a second.

The 14-inch model measures 313.9 x 220.45 x 16.3 mm and weighs in at 1.29 kg, whereas the 16-inch model is slightly larger—for obvious reasons—and measures 356.3 x 248.6 x 16.3 mm, but remains fairly portable at 1.6 kg. The display on both the 14- and 16-inch models features 1920x1200 resolution, with the 14-inch model having a brighter display at 300 vs 250 nits for the 16-inch model. Neither display is what you'd call impressive though. Other features include up to 16 GB of dual-channel LPDDR4X memory, up to 1 TB of storage, HDMI out, a USB-C port with DP Alt mode and USB PD support, two USB-A ports, a microSD card slot, an audio jack and a power connector for the charger. WiFi 6 and Bluetooth 5.1, as well as a fingerprint reader are also part of the package. Battery life is said to be up 21 and 20 hours respectively when it comes to video playback, with the 14-inch model managing 16.5 hours in MobileMark 2018, whereas the 16-inch model only manages 15 hours flat. LG will offer a range of SKUs that start at €1,199 for the 14-inchers and €1,399 for the 16-inchers, all of which should be available at some point this month.



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[medi01]

Use older AMD CPUs - check
Use poor screens - check

Thank you, LG.
For consistency.


A tip: ASUS MQ3401

 

[Denver]

AMD has the best mobile APUs, but the availability is terrible...

 

[bonehead123]

Use older AMD CPUs - check
Use poor screens - check

Thank you, LG.
For consistency.


A tip: ASUS MQ3401

You forgot the key thing here:

All of the above..... for absolutely absurd prices !

With all that slow, outdated, archaic hardware, these lappys should be no more than $6-700 at most... and don't even go there with that "inflation/shortage" crap either.... these components have been readily available even during the pandemic, so there is NO excuse for these prices except pure, unadulterated GREED....

Perhaps they are just tryin to make up for the lost revenue from getting out of the phone biz...

Maybe LG should rename themselves as "nGreedia v2"

 

[Garrus]

Use older AMD CPUs - check
Use poor screens - check

Thank you, LG.
For consistency.


A tip: ASUS MQ3401

Yeah this is terrible. I don't understand why the laptops are over $700. They are just thicker and heavier GRAM laptops with old AMD CPUs. LG didn't even bother to stick a 120hz LG IPS screen in them. Crazy.

 

[AsRock]

Ultra PC Laptops​

LMAO

 

[Chrispy_]

LG Grams are really nice laptops, but yeah - Even before I looked at the price I saw these are using shitty old Vega graphics, which will be five years old in IGP form by the end of next month.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You forgot the key thing here:

All of the above..... for absolutely absurd prices !

With all that slow, outdated, archaic hardware, these lappys should be no more than $6-700 at most... and don't even go there with that "inflation/shortage" crap either.... these components have been readily available even during the pandemic, so there is NO excuse for these prices except pure, unadulterated GREED....

Perhaps they are just tryin to make up for the lost revenue from getting out of the phone biz...

Maybe LG should rename themselves as "nGreedia v2"

I agree that the price is a bit stiff for a laptop that doesn't carry a dedicated GPU but isn't calling Zen 3 mobile slow, archaic and outdated at this point in time a bit extreme?

 

[lemonadesoda]

“Ultra” they hope retail fools will buy just for the name, not the specs. Awful screen resolution. Ok 8 years ago on XP, but for Win10/11 in 2022/3 when competing with far better models at that price range. It makes a fence sitter go macbook. For the shame…

 

[bonehead123]

I agree that the price is a bit stiff for a laptop that doesn't carry a dedicated GPU but isn't calling Zen 3 mobile slow, archaic and outdated at this point in time a bit extreme?

Perhaps not in terms of the CPU, but if the 3 posts after mine are any indication, I don't think the rest is too harsh...

as in Vegan graphics, ummm...whahdatiz, hehehe ?

 

[SomeOne99h]

Wait a sec ... Did they forgot to mention "thin" with the name and just start marketing and all?!!

 

[Valantar]

Wow, Barcelo at those prices? I thought those chips were targeting the sub-$500 market?

 

[Chaitanya]

You forgot the key thing here:

All of the above..... for absolutely absurd prices !

With all that slow, outdated, archaic hardware, these lappys should be no more than $6-700 at most... and don't even go there with that "inflation/shortage" crap either.... these components have been readily available even during the pandemic, so there is NO excuse for these prices except pure, unadulterated GREED....

Perhaps they are just tryin to make up for the lost revenue from getting out of the phone biz...

Maybe LG should rename themselves as "nGreedia v2"

With that kind of attitude for product development, it wont be long before they wind up laptops segment like they did with cellphone division.

 

[Minus Infinity]

LG are doing a fine job for Intel in keeping AMD out of the market for high end laptops. These are a joke.

 

[Logoffon]

“Ultra” they hope retail fools will buy just for the name, not the specs. Awful screen resolution. Ok 8 years ago on XP, but for Win10/11 in 2022/3 when competing with far better models at that price range. It makes a fence sitter go macbook. For the shame…

I would agree if it has like 1366x768 or 1600x900 on something like ≥$/€1000 laptops, but anything beyond 1080p/1200p is just overkill even for 16-17 inch ones.
And don't get me started on scaling. That simply defeats the purpose of high-res screens, i.e. why would you want a 1440p/1600p laptop when you're going to have a usable space that's the same as 1080p/1200p?

 

[Garrus]

LG are doing a fine job for Intel in keeping AMD out of the market for high end laptops. These are a joke.

Ryzen 6800U is the highest in demand mobile CPU ever, and AMD made none of them. Sad. 10 months later it will finally launch. Bizarre.

 

[AsRock]

Kinda reads like Red Bull,100% marketing.

 

[Aoyagi]

It's a shame Panasonic's laptops are so hard to come by here though.

 

[Chrispy_]

Ryzen 6800U is the highest in demand mobile CPU ever, and AMD made none of them. Sad. 10 months later it will finally launch. Bizarre.

Really hard to get your hands on 6800U.

I finally bought a couple and set them up for staff last week and they are great. The IGP is still disappointing but only because Vega was so old and tired that "doubling Vega's performance" doesn't really fix much. It turns 25fps@720p into 35fps@1080p. You're still not going to want to play like that if the alternative is an RTX 3050 laptop for a similar price....

 

[Aquinus]

Kinda reads like Red Bull,100% marketing.

The next variant will be the Super Ultra PC.

 

[bonehead123]

The next variant will be the Super Ultra PC.

Nope, I will gladly wait for the upcoming Super-Duper-Mega-gazzillion-quantum-dilithium-powered-quadruple-OC'd-Max-version, which is on track to be released early in 2031, hahahaha

 

[wheresmycar]

[Just my 2 cents on the LG GRAM: not in reference to the OPs listed models but the previous Intel 11th Gen 17" LG GRAM]

LG GRAMs are Expensive, I agree but...

I bought a previous 17" LG GRAM (i7-1165G7) a few months ago for business/trading/social use. Got it from a private seller listed as "opened but hardly used" for £1100. I get it, a laptop WITHOUT high performance graphics at this sort of price range is tough to stomach but its not completely out of whack (IMO). Keep in mind, LG GRAM when launched 1/2 years ago was branded the lightest laptop in its class available on the market and equally one of the best long battery life offerings... that alone gives LG an edge to overshoot on pricing.

Here's some general and much desired key features which got me sold on it: Eye candy high resolution (2560x1600) 17" IPS display (absolutely gorgeous screen but more importantly superb for multi-tasking), TB4 expansion and same Type-C port fast power delivery (+a second T-C port - about time!), 1 TB NVME SSD, 16 gigs (4266Mhz) memory, very juicy 80Wh "long" battery life (way above expectation, does the job tremendously well), WIFI 6 (good range), a proper working fingerprint scanner (finally), runs surprisingly cool/"very quiet" and one of my favourite shout-worthy features being the crazy "1.35kg ultra light weight". My old Dell XPS 17 was so heavy it was taking turns on my shoulders... with this feather weight LG GRAM i'm floating in the air. Aesthetically speaking... i wouldn't have it any other way, its simple and slick and everything feels premium. Speaking of 'feels' the key press experience is equally rewarding and the premium matte surface finish is right up my street. Its a quad core chip and yeah at this price point more cores/threads would have been nice... but doesnt matter since most of my applications are single core and this SNAPPY beast absolutely chews the living day lights out of anything I throw at it. Bottom line, its not a laptop you would put in that lower $600-$800 region - not even close! Find me one with similar or same build quality/specs and ill print off my post on an A1 paper and eat it up.

On the outset, it's not always easy finding a solution with all the above requirements/perks packed into one, especially 17" laptops! Some of those key features being the long battery life, ultra thin and light weight and a large crisp 17" screen... LG is right up there to cater for this sort of none-serious-gamer market! So i'm not fussed about the price tag. Cheaper would have been nice but with my ongoing totally satisfying experience i'd pay the added premium for this sort of feature set any day of the week unless cheaper same spec alternatives surface. I can't speak the same for the smaller sized laptops (14-16") or the current models as I haven't looked into those nor am I interested. Once you go 17" its difficult to turn back... esp for a heavy work orientated multi-task portie.

If you're thinking of suggesting this post is irrelevant - I know, I just couldn't resist giving the LG GRAM a thumbs up! If interested tomorrow i'll be throwing a few images of my lappie in the TPU thread "your latest tech purchase" here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/whats-your-latest-tech-purchase.225885/page-520

 

[BoboOOZ]

[Just my 2 cents on the LG GRAM: not in reference to the OPs listed models but the previous Intel 11th Gen 17" LG GRAM]

LG GRAMs are Expensive, I agree but...

I bought a previous 17" LG GRAM (i7-1165G7) a few months ago for business/trading/social use. Got it from a private seller listed as "opened but hardly used" for £1100. I get it, a laptop WITHOUT high performance graphics at this sort of price range is tough to stomach but its not completely out of whack (IMO). Keep in mind, LG GRAM when launched 1/2 years ago was branded the lightest laptop in its class available on the market and equally one of the best long battery life offerings... that alone gives LG an edge to overshoot on pricing.

Here's some general and much desired key features which got me sold on it: Eye candy high resolution (2560x1600) 17" IPS display (absolutely gorgeous screen but more importantly superb for multi-tasking), TB4 expansion and same Type-C port fast power delivery (+a second T-C port - about time!), 1 TB NVME SSD, 16 gigs (4266Mhz) memory, very juicy 80Wh "long" battery life (way above expectation, does the job tremendously well), WIFI 6 (good range), a proper working fingerprint scanner (finally), runs surprisingly cool/"very quiet" and one of my favourite shout-worthy features being the crazy "1.35kg ultra light weight". My old Dell XPS 17 was so heavy it was taking turns on my shoulders... with this feather weight LG GRAM i'm floating in the air. Aesthetically speaking... i wouldn't have it any other way, its simple and slick and everything feels premium. Speaking of 'feels' the key press experience is equally rewarding and the premium matte surface finish is right up my street. Its a quad core chip and yeah at this price point more cores/threads would have been nice... but doesnt matter since most of my applications are single core and this SNAPPY beast absolutely chews the living day lights out of anything I throw at it. Bottom line, its not a laptop you would put in that lower $600-$800 region - not even close! Find me one with similar or same build quality/specs and ill print off my post on an A1 paper and eat it up.

On the outset, it's not always easy finding a solution with all the above requirements/perks packed into one, especially 17" laptops! Some of those key features being the long battery life, ultra thin and light weight and a large crisp 17" screen... LG is right up there to cater for this sort of none-serious-gamer market! So i'm not fussed about the price tag. Cheaper would have been nice but with my ongoing totally satisfying experience i'd pay the added premium for this sort of feature set any day of the week unless cheaper same spec alternatives surface. I can't speak the same for the smaller sized laptops (14-16") or the current models as I haven't looked into those nor am I interested. Once you go 17" its difficult to turn back... esp for a heavy work orientated multi-task portie.

If you're thinking of suggesting this post is irrelevant - I know, I just couldn't resist giving the LG GRAM a thumbs up! If interested tomorrow i'll be throwing a few images of my lappie in the TPU thread "your latest tech purchase" here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/whats-your-latest-tech-purchase.225885/page-520

Yepp, these are good PCs, very light but with great battery life. With AMD CPUs, they will probably be even better, and MSRP doesn't mean much for laptops. Too bad they don't have 360° hinges.

 

[lemonadesoda]

I would agree if it has like 1366x768 or 1600x900 on something like ≥$/€1000 laptops, but anything beyond 1080p/1200p is just overkill even for 16-17 inch ones.
And don't get me started on scaling. That simply defeats the purpose of high-res screens, i.e. why would you want a 1440p/1600p laptop when you're going to have a usable space that's the same as 1080p/1200p?

Ah, you're a young buck still gaming and playing media files. Get with productivity software, electronic documents, remote work, remote learning. Just one example: reading PDF documentation. You will quickly appreciate higher resolutions. I do not wish to hit zoom and scroll buttons when reading a document. Did you know that the diagonal of an A4 sheet of paper is 14"? So if I can see it on A4, then I want to be able to see it on the laptop.

With your argument, we can forget 600-1200dpi printers and go back to dot matrix.

This argument has been repeated and accepted so often on the internet, except for, people who use computers for social media and gaming.