AMD B650E "Extreme" Chipset Confirmed, Brings PCIe 5.0 for GPU and SSD

[AleksandarK]

AMD's upcoming launch of Ryzen 7000 series processors will bring an entirely new AM5 platform that will enable newer technologies and protocols. We have DDR5 memory and PCIe 5.0 connection with everything at level five. However, the upcoming chipsets AMD has designed to work alongside the new processors will be available in several variants. There will be regular X670 and B650 versions that support either a PCIe 5.0 GPU or a PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVIMe SSD. Today, we got a confirmation that not only the big X670 chipset has an "E" or "Extreme" version, but its smaller brother B650 as well. With X670E and B650E, users get both PCIe 5.0 connectivity for their GPU and M.2 NVIMe SSD. For more information, we have to wait for AMD's official launch information later today.


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[AM4isGOD]

Yay PCIe 5 GPU support, good for the next unfathomable time when we actually have a PCIe 5 GPU to use in it. For now just stick with the no doubt expensive PCIe 5 NVME SSD.

 

[HenrySomeone]

Everything seems to be Extreme! ™ in AMD land these days... I just hope zen4 won't also be an extreme sales flop due to the really high entry price point.

 

[Sake]

Everything seems to be Extreme! ™ in AMD land these days... I just hope zen4 won't also be an extreme sales flop due to the really high entry price point.

New Intel PR employ for this forum? You comment against all AMD related posts. It can't be that you are such a great Intel fanboy that you feel the need to comment against anything AMD related.

 

[AM4isGOD]

New Intel PR employ for this forum? You comment against all AMD related posts. It can't be that you are such a great Intel fanboy that you feel the need to comment against anything AMD related.

Got to to counter the anti Intel crap in every Intel thread. There are many more AMD users compared to Intel users in this forum, and it shows.

 

[john_]

That "E" is there for maximum profit margin. I am afraid the 650E doesn't warranty cheaper AM5 boards with extra features, just expensive 650E and lackluster 650 non E motherboards.

 

[Fouquin]

Did everyone here get their sample boards or something already? So many matter of fact statements being thrown around before the announcement.

 

[spnidel]

sounds like "futureproofing" bait

New Intel PR employ for this forum? You comment against all AMD related posts. It can't be that you are such a great Intel fanboy that you feel the need to comment against anything AMD related.

probably an alt of another account I remember seeing doing the same a couple of years ago - would pop up in any AMD related news article and shit on them... in a suspiciously similarly-worded fashion, too

edit: lol @HenrySomeone liking my message, but then removing the like the moment I call you a shill lmao

 

[aciDev]

Got to to counter the anti Intel crap in every Intel thread. There are many more AMD users compared to Intel users in this forum, and it shows.

The fact that you need to use an alternate account to spam 82 messages within 11 days tells a lot about your objectivity and credibility. How much do you get paid? Can I do it too?

 

[big_glasses]

What's the point of the B650E?
Wouldn't it just be stepping on X570 (non-E)?

 

[Jism]

Yay PCIe 5 GPU support, good for the next unfathomable time when we actually have a PCIe 5 GPU to use in it. For now just stick with the no doubt expensive PCIe 5 NVME SSD.

Enterprise requires PCI-E 5.0. Because of that it's common to push the consumer to PCI-E 5.0 as well.

 

[gffermari]

...what's the point of X670 then?

 

[Dirt Chip]

This will mass the whole price structure that is already unstable and will interduce even more cross-tire confusion.
Average B650E to cost much more than "entry" X670, B650-B650E price mix and so on.
Only the X670E will see quite days, up on his penthouse, in the ivy tower.

Wonderful time ahead!

 

[Aikanikuluksi]

Please correct me if I am mistaken, but to my understanding:

The actual chips in X670/X670E/B650/B650E chipsets are all the same and only support PCIe4 connections. What the E stands for is direct PCIe5 connections from the CPU to graphics and to one M.2 SSD slot, and what that requires is a more expensive circuit board having enough layers to support faster signaling, nothing to do with the actual chipset chips.

(Edit: 1 chip in B650(E) for a smaller number of connections, and 2 daisy-chained chips in X670(E) for a greater number of connections.)

 

[gffermari]

X670E: PCIe5 + nVME5 + OC
X670: PCIe5 or nVME5 + OC
B650E: PCIe5 + nVME5 - No or limited OC?
B650: PCIe5 or nVME5 - No OC
A620: ??

I think it's like that or close enough...

 

[Dirt Chip]

X670E: PCIe5 + nVME5 + OC
X670: PCIe5 or nVME5 + OC
B650E: PCIe5 + nVME5 - No or limited OC?
B650: PCIe5 or nVME5 - No OC
A620: ??

I think it's like that or close enough...

If AMD is right on their mind all X and B 6xx will do OC.
They can`t do an 'intel move' both on mobo price hike, OC chipset segmentation and force DDR5 while doing so.
Or is it...

 

[windwhirl]

New Intel PR employ for this forum? You comment against all AMD related posts. It can't be that you are such a great Intel fanboy that you feel the need to comment against anything AMD related.

Nope, they're not new, they've been around for quite some time now

Anyway I don't get why this E variant of the B650 exists. PCIE 5.0 devices (that actually work noticeably better/faster with PCIE 5.0) are likely very expensive, so I don't know why would someone want a lower spec board than a X670E or X670... Or even anything that's not Enterprise channel for that matter.

 

[Dirt Chip]

Anyway I don't get why this E variant of the B650 exists. PCIE 5.0 devices (that actually work noticeably better/faster with PCIE 5.0) are likely very expensive, so I don't know why would someone want a lower spec board than a X670E or X670... Or even anything that's not Enterprise channel for that matter.

Every 'gamer' needs it or at least need to wish for it.
The "futureproof" PR campaign take care of it.

 

[Punkenjoy]

Please correct me if I am mistaken, but to my understanding:

The actual chips in X670/X670E/B650/B650E chipsets are all the same and only support PCIe4 connections. What the E stands for is direct PCIe5 connections from the CPU to graphics and to one M.2 SSD slot, and what that requires is a more expensive circuit board having enough layers to support faster signaling, nothing to do with the actual chipset chips.

(Edit: 1 chip in B650(E) for a smaller number of connections, and 2 daisy-chained chips in X670(E) for a greater number of connections.)

Based on rumours, you are right, the chipsets are all made from 1 chip. The motherboard vendor will likely receive tons of that same chips and will decide if they are making B650 or X670 E or non E. The E factor will be actually on the motherboard design side. If they pass the PCI-E 5.0 specification, they will be able to say their motherboard is a E.

i will wait to see the price difference to make myself an opinion. But i suspect that it won't be small, else why make a non-E board at all?

 

[Aquinus]

Everything seems to be Extreme! ™ in AMD land these days... I just hope zen4 won't also be an extreme sales flop due to the really high entry price point.

I seem to recall Intel having Extreme Edition chips that were outrageously priced. The good news for AMD and Intel is that somebody will buy it.

 

[1d10t]

I think E is unnecessary, just made as it were, X670 with all PCIe 5.0 glory, B650 with one PEG 5.0 or PEG slot bifurcation, and A620 is bare minimum.

 

[AM4isGOD]

I just remember all the derisory comments when ADL released with useless PCIe 5 GPU support, different matter when AMD does the same though with still no hope of a GPU to run at PCIe 5. Suppose you can always buy an expensive PCIe 5 NVME to make use of it.

 

[LuxZg]

What's this "OR" nonsense, didn't AMD state that ALL X670/B650 boards will have to have M.2 with PCIe 5.0?

So "E" is just designation that PCIe x16 slot is 5.0, while "non-E" would be 4.0

And yes, it has nothing to do with chipset as in the chip itself, they're all 4.0 tops. 5.0 comes from CPU.

And no, 5.0 on x16 slot shouldn't require more PCB layers compared to "just M.2 5.0" which - is mandatory. For proof, see boards that have been announced, where both X670 and X670E had 8 layers.

* If reports so far were correct

Edit: just checked, Gigabyte and MSI official pages state 8-layers for both X670 and X670E. Didn't see any 6-layer AM5 boards so far

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Does "Extreme" stand for extreme pricing? All we want is decent 130 bucks motherboard. B series is for normies, not AMD fanboys milking ground. That's what X stands for

 

[HenrySomeone]

Does "Extreme" stand for extreme pricing? All we want is decent 130 bucks motherboard. B series is for normies, not AMD fanboys milking ground. That's what X stands for

Oh man, you are really going to bring the wrath of those you mention upon yourself with repeated posts like this... Don't you know that the red team can do no wrong, no matter how it looks at first glance?