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VIVIFY Introduces the XENOS W35 Active Fiber Optic 8K HDMI Cable

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VIVIFY, a leading brand of premium fiber optic cables unveils the XENOS W35, an ultra high-bandwidth, super slim (up to 3.5 mm thick) and flexible 8K HDMI active fiber optic cable. The XENOS W35 is designed with a premium aluminium casing in silver and black to match your devices. It weighs only a quarter of copper cables and does not require any additional power source.

VIVIFY's design enables speeds of 48 Gbps, for up to 15ft/5M in length without the need for an additional USB power dongle. The W35 is also certified to withstand a crushing force of 450kgf, and is resistant to high temperatures up to 85˚C and 90% humidity levels. All this on top of the advantages of active fiber optic cables of being lighter, flexible, and more durable, fiber optic offers a more stable lossless signal, unaffected by electromagnetic interferences (EMI).



Future Proofing Home Theaters
The XENOS W35 supports the latest standards for seamless connectivity. With eARC, HDMI connection can be plugged directly into a TV and send uncompressed and high-resolution audio (such as DTS:X and Dolby Atmos soundtracks) to a soundbar, receiver, or amplifier directly from the eARC port. The new HDMI standardalso brings in the support for Dynamic HDR to ensure videos are displayed at ideal values for depth, detail, brightness, contrast, and wider color gamut. For gaming consoles such as PS5 and Xbox Series X/S, the W35 supports the new Auto Low-Latency Mode (ALLM) and Variable Refresh Rates (VRR) technology for a fluid 8k 60 Hz and 4K 120 Hz gameplay, all while reducing screen tearing and frame stutter.

Industry's Most Stringent Testing
Taking advantage of strict testing methods, each cable is tested to ensure that all usage scenarios are covered. The quality control process includes testing for the cable's wrenching strength, accidental pull out, cable flex, signal quality, and compatibility, extreme environment, crush resistance, plug and play, and insert and withdrawal force.

Availability
The Xenos W35is currently available for pre-order at $42 USD (15ft/4.5M), $57 USD (32 ft/10M), and $72 USD (50ft/15M). In addition, users can request customizable lengths for the XENOS W35, up to 164ft/50M. To learn more about the new Xenos W35, please click here.



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Hm, those prices aren't terrible for active cabling. Good to see these things becoming marginally more accessible.
 
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I've been whining for this for years!
 
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Ugh, this is the company that made those gimmicky overpriced RGBLED cables, isn't it?

At least they're not audiophile-grade snake oil, they're just expensive because the RGBLED nonesense adds to the cost of an otherwise very standard cable.
 
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Ugh, this is the company that made those gimmicky overpriced RGBLED cables, isn't it?

At least they're not audiophile-grade snake oil, they're just expensive because the RGBLED nonesense adds to the cost of an otherwise very standard cable.
Active cables will always be expensive, and trust me from 5 meters and up you will want an active active cable.
 
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Active cables will always be expensive, and trust me from 5 meters and up you will want an active active cable.
100% agree. These are not expensive at all compared to copper cables capable of HDMI 2.1 at distances over 15ft / 5m.
 
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Clicking the link in the article to the product site really isn't that hard.
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It's easy to click, true. However, paying attention to relevant details requires more cognitive effort and knowledge.

What you circled is vague and not published according to HDMI Forum requirements for 2.0 and 2.1 spec certified cables. There is no logo or single mention of either "Premium High Speed" or "Ultra-High Speed Certified" - anywhere. It should look like below - orange logo for 18 Gbps Premium cables and green letters for Ultra-High Speed 48 Gbps cables. HDMI Forum is pretty clear about this.
HDMI-Cables.jpg


If you read the section "Industrial grade and high-quality cable" and you click on "Learn more", you will find the following information: "DPL 4K Certification for 4K 18G Deep Color and the Significance of 18 Gbps Throughput". This single piece of information shows that the cable W35 was DPL tested for 18 Gbps speed, and not for 48 Gbps speed. This still does not mean it is certified.

Finally, HDMI Ultra-High Speed Logo for any 48 Gbps cable MUST be there, if a cable is certified for that speed. No ifs, no buts.
Neither W35 nor ARQUUS W75 cables have required information about being certified for 2.1 speed up to 48 Gbps.
 
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It's easy to click, true. However, paying attention to relevant details requires more cognitive effort and knowledge.

What you circled is vague and not published according to HDMI Forum requirements for 2.0 and 2.1 spec certified cables. There is no logo or single mention of either "Premium High Speed" or "Ultra-High Speed Certified" - anywhere. It should look like below - orange logo for 18 Gbps Premium cables and green letters for Ultra-High Speed 48 Gbps cables. HDMI Forum is pretty clear about this.
View attachment 260268

If you read the section "Industrial grade and high-quality cable" and you click on "Learn more", you will find the following information: "DPL 4K Certification for 4K 18G Deep Color and the Significance of 18 Gbps Throughput". This single piece of information shows that the cable W35 was DPL tested for 18 Gbps speed, and not for 48 Gbps speed. This still does not mean it is certified.

Finally, HDMI Ultra-High Speed Logo for any 48 Gbps cable MUST be there, if a cable is certified for that speed. No ifs, no buts.
Neither W35 nor ARQUUS W75 cables have required information about being certified for 2.1 speed up to 48 Gbps.
That's true, but those labels are AFAIK for packaging, not for general promotional material. And that "Learn more" link redirects to a page of general informational articles, not a page that's specific for this cable.

This being an optical cable also inherently makes it safer than a copper cable: in able to pass any kind of 48G testing at all, it needs 48G-capable transcievers, and AFAIK nobody makes 48G capable optical HDMI transcievers that don't actually meet the HDMI 2.1 48G spec. Meaning that unless they've really screwed up the implementation, it would essentially pass by default, as the question moves from "is it high enough quality" to "does the hardware present have the required capabilities", i.e. from a complex question to a simple yes/no.
 
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That's true, but those labels are AFAIK for packaging, not for general promotional material. And that "Learn more" link redirects to a page of general informational articles, not a page that's specific for this cable.

This being an optical cable also inherently makes it safer than a copper cable: in able to pass any kind of 48G testing at all, it needs 48G-capable transcievers, and AFAIK nobody makes 48G capable optical HDMI transcievers that don't actually meet the HDMI 2.1 48G spec. Meaning that unless they've really screwed up the implementation, it would essentially pass by default, as the question moves from "is it high enough quality" to "does the hardware present have the required capabilities", i.e. from a complex question to a simple yes/no.
Whatever the case, the cable currently does not have standard certification labelling by HDMI Forum. It might get in future, but not at the moment.
 
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Active cables will always be expensive, and trust me from 5 meters and up you will want an active active cable.
Indeed, this isn't my first rodeo; I've spent the last 8 years setting up AEC exhibitions using projectors and displays and have probably purchased 1000+ optical cables over 50m in length at this point in around 20 different countries.

I don't trust passive copper even at 5M - I had issues at home even with a basic 4K60 SDR signal using a few different cables.
 
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Indeed, this isn't my first rodeo; I've spent the last 8 years setting up AEC exhibitions using projectors and displays and have probably purchased 1000+ optical cables over 50m in length at this point in around 20 different countries.

I don't trust passive copper even at 5M - I had issues at home even with a basic 4K60 SDR signal using a few different cables.
Yeah, i had a 10 meter copper cable, while it worked it caused some issues with my TV and popped up messages, even when the PC was off (including the powerbrick).

Havn't had that anymore since i gotten the active one.

Live and learn i guess ^^
 
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