Samsung Electronics Unveils Odyssey OLED G8 Gaming Monitor at IFA 2022

[SAINT ENZO]

All i want is a 16:9 Oled that's 34 inches or smaller..... Ultrawide stinks for gaming

 

[Chomiq]

According to rumors they want to price it the same as Dell's offering so around $1300.

 

[trsttte]

The problem is that there would need to be an industry standard for these dongles to "take over" the TV's UI, as one of the major draws of smart TVs is their integration and UX simplicity. Interoperability with stock remotes would also be a must. This wouldn't necessarily be very hard to do, but it would need a standard to have any hope of a future of compatible upgrades.

The standards already exist, HDMI CEC is perfectly able to do that and the TV just needs to select the source (like a monitor does), remote can just control the dongle directly (and it can also control the tv since tv remotes also follow some variation of the same standard anyway).

And i'm not even going as far as asking for multi brand interoperability, surely within samsung they could figure out how to make their own stuff work with each other right... right???

 

[Valantar]

The standards already exist, HDMI CEC is perfectly able to do that and the TV just needs to select the source (like a monitor does), remote can just control the dongle directly (and it can also control the tv since tv remotes also follow some variation of the same standard anyway).

And i'm not even going as far as asking for multi brand interoperability, surely within samsung they could figure out how to make their own stuff work with each other right... right???

HDMI CEC just allows connected devices to control each other, other than that it does literally none of what I described above. I'm talking about a dongle that actually replaces the UX on the TV, which would mean things like embedding the TV's native settings menus into the overall UX from the dongle, having the dongle UX manage input switching, picture mode changes, etc. HDMI CEC is nowhere near capable of creating a unified experience like that.

And sure, Samsung could figure this out - they had upgradeable smart modules for their high end TVs for a few generations. Entirely proprietary, of course, which killed them, as obviously nobody wanted to upgrade that part frequently, and there were no options out there - meaning it's just an additional cost vs. integrating it on-board. An interoperable standard, ideally one that TVs are mandated by law to support, would be the only way of implementing this with any kind of reach and longevity.

 

[Mussels]

All i want is a 16:9 Oled that's 34 inches or smaller..... Ultrawide stinks for gaming

32" 4K would be ideal (And i say this as someone who owns 32" 4K and 1440p VA displays)


Ultrawide only became popular because manufacturers wanted to use leftover panels, they can use 1.5x 1440p and make an ultrawide, but they cant use that panel to make a 4K display

Dead pixels or any other manufacturing flaw could leave them with large amounts of unusable product if they stuck with 16:9, but making them wider let them use more of it - and marketing told people they wanted it.


Then of course games just used it badly or outright don't let you use it (Vertical minus instead of horizontal plus) with marketing telling gamers to buy it who then rabidly defend it despite how poorly it actually works in reality

HDMI CEC just allows connected devices to control each other, other than that it does literally none of what I described above. I'm talking about a dongle that actually replaces the UX on the TV, which would mean things like embedding the TV's native settings menus into the overall UX from the dongle, having the dongle UX manage input switching, picture mode changes, etc. HDMI CEC is nowhere near capable of creating a unified experience like that.

And sure, Samsung could figure this out - they had upgradeable smart modules for their high end TVs for a few generations. Entirely proprietary, of course, which killed them, as obviously nobody wanted to upgrade that part frequently, and there were no options out there - meaning it's just an additional cost vs. integrating it on-board. An interoperable standard, ideally one that TVs are mandated by law to support, would be the only way of implementing this with any kind of reach and longevity.

HDMI CEC is enough - seriously i have my chromecast ultra on my 1440p display and it does the job there just fine. Power button on the chromecast remote turns the screen on and off, volume controls don't work sadly

That's pretty much what you want, an OS on a stick with a remote that controls the display directly