When will gpu prices return to normal.

[DeathtoGnomes]

3080/10Gb prices on Amazon have hit below $750, 12 GB about $75-100 more. I'm gonna predict(speculate in case you didnt know) the 40 series cards will have the prices lowered at, or by, launch day.

BUT, only if 30 series cards are still 'overstocked'.

What are those density calculations based on?

math?

 

[Mikael Andersson]

3080/10Gb prices on Amazon have hit below $750, 12 GB about $75-100 more. I'm gonna predict(speculate in case you didnt know) the 40 series cards will have the prices lowered at, or by, launch day.

BUT, only if 30 series cards are still 'overstocked'.

The 3080 10GB is like the 980 or the 6800 (non-XT) of the graphics card world i.e. not worth it's price even at used card prices.

 

[trog100]

i wonder if all these future predictions are taking into account the super high price we are all gonna have to pay for energy.. ??

trog

 

[64K]

i wonder if all these future predictions are taking into account the super high price we are all gonna have to pay for energy.. ??

trog

No, we're not miners like you.

 

[freeagent]

I'm ok with my Ampere. Its pretty good. As noted.. games aren't really that much fun anymore, but they look nice. I'm not into these high prices in the coming future.. been looking at my other neglected hobbies, and things have progressed with them since I last left off, and much cheaper than computers lol..

 

[trog100]

No, we're not miners like you.

i was thinking in more simple terms.. we are moving from a world where energy prices dont really matter that much to a world where they do..

i think unless this is taken into account what i read in this thread is kind of pointless waffle..

trog

 

[R-T-B]

No, we're not miners like you.

Anything drawing over half a kilowatt on a regular basis will probably be something worth noting in the near future, sadly. This isn't just a miner issue.

 

[64K]

i was thinking in more simple terms.. we are moving from a world where energy prices dont really matter that much to a world where they do..

i think unless this is taken into account what i read in this thread is kind of pointless waffle..

trog

This thread isn't "pointless waffle"
Energy used is silly to a gamer.

If my next card uses even 100 more watts and my KwH rate doubles then gaming an average of 3 hours a day 30.33 days a month (average) then my electricity bill will go up $1 per month.

It's insignificant.

 

[ppn]

What are those density calculations based on?

Nvidia Hopper H100 80,000 million 814 mm² TSMC 4 nm.
this means even 4050, 203 mm² AD106 has more transistors than a 3070 Ti. but it ends up slower for some reason.

 

[trog100]

This thread isn't "pointless waffle"
Energy used is silly to a gamer.

If my next card uses even 100 more watts and my KwH rate doubles then gaming an average of 3 hours a day 30.33 days a month (average) then my electricity bill will go up $1 per month.

It's insignificant.

energy used is silly to a gamer but with the cost of energy (for some people) going up by a factor of 5 or so maybe it wont remain so in the future.. ??

trog

 

[64K]

energy used is silly to a gamer but with the cost of energy (for some people) going up by a factor of 5 or so maybe it wont remain so in the future.. ??

trog

It's still insignificant if it goes up 5 times (which it won't)

Gaming is still very cheap entertainment as an ongoing cost compared to other forms of entertainment with the exception of the initial cost in buying a graphics card.

Energy cost is only significant to a miner.

 

[Lei]

I'm ok with my Ampere. Its pretty good. As noted.. games aren't really that much fun anymore, but they look nice. I'm not into these high prices in the coming future.. been looking at my other neglected hobbies, and things have progressed with them since I last left off, and much cheaper than computers lol..

sounds like midlife crisis
Me too

 

[nguyen]

I'm ok with my Ampere. Its pretty good. As noted.. games aren't really that much fun anymore, but they look nice. I'm not into these high prices in the coming future.. been looking at my other neglected hobbies, and things have progressed with them since I last left off, and much cheaper than computers lol..

I have lots of hobbies too but they all involve a PC; my hobbies are RTS, Turn Base, FPS, MOBA, Battle Royale

 

[64K]

sounds like midlife crisis
Me too

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If freeagent is old then I'm older than dirt.

Anything drawing over half a kilowatt on a regular basis will probably be something worth noting in the near future, sadly. This isn't just a miner issue.

You don't game 24/7 so it's a trivial issue.

It's only an issue to miners.

 

[trog100]

If freeagent is old then I'm older than dirt.



You don't game 24/7 so it's a trivial issue.

It's only an issue to miners.

i dont think you grasp what is going on in the world..

trog

 

[Sithaer]

You don't game 24/7 so it's a trivial issue.

It's only an issue to miners.

For what its worth, where I live and what we pay for power currently. 'and its only gonna get worse most likely..'
I pay about 10+$/ month with the low power draw 'around 230W from the wall when I game' system under my specs and I barely play 1-3 hours/day on average rest is light use like watching YT/movie,etc.

So that makes it ~120$/year with my very basic use case and a low power system.
Doesn't sound much but it adds up and since I'm getting a RTX 3060 Ti next week it will be more. 'oh my household wasn't happy about that one I tell ya..'

 

[Appalachian]

3080/10Gb prices on Amazon have hit below $750, 12 GB about $75-100 more. I'm gonna predict(speculate in case you didnt know) the 40 series cards will have the prices lowered at, or by, launch day.

BUT, only if 30 series cards are still 'overstocked'.


math?

the 3080 and 3070 hit new lows today. I only watch 4 online stores, Best Buy, B&H, Newegg and amazon (if anyone has any other good ones let me know so I can add them to my list) and only look at products that come from them and not other sellers. I found a 3070 for $499 and a 3080 for $699. This is the lowest ive seen them so far in the weeks ive been watching. The lowest I have found a 3080 12G is $769. Oh and an RX 6900 XT for $699.

 

[Lei]

If freeagent is old then I'm older than dirt.

I dyed my hair pink and yellow today. But I'm old.

Hint: original hair is white.

And my gpu is for AI and 3d modeling.

One question: now that Elon bought twitter and then didn't buy it... Are Jack Dorsey and him still friends? If they're not, then it's good for bitcoin. (Bad for cryptocurrency, good for us)

 

[64K]

i dont think you grasp what is going on in the world..

trog

You aren't able to divorce yourself from your miner thinking. It's not an issue for us gamers. We don't care. An extra $1 a month on the electricity bill is trivial if it even comes to that.

 

[sepheronx]

You aren't able to divorce yourself from your miner thinking. It's not an issue for us gamers. We don't care. An extra $1 a month on the electricity bill is trivial if it even comes to that.

I guess all those Italians, Brits and everyone else protesting en mass in Europe are all miners, right?

Just because it doesn't affect you in your ivory tower, doesn't mean it doesn't effect average plebs.

Someone else already said earlier that it adds up and it does.

So come off your high horse here and realize not everyone is you. I can say choice words for you but I already know mods here can be selective in who they like to punish.

 

[64K]

I guess all those Italians, Brits and everyone else protesting en mass in Europe are all miners, right?

Just because it doesn't affect you in your ivory tower, doesn't mean it doesn't effect average plebs.

Someone else already said earlier that it adds up and it does.

So come off your high horse here and realize not everyone is you. I can say choice words for you but I already know mods here can be selective in who they like to punish.

The mods will punish me long before they punish you. Have you ever been banned for a year for mouthing off to a moderator. I think not.

But anyway your increased electricity bill uptick will be trivial for the value retained in gaming as an entertainment source. If a couple of dollars extra a month is going to leave you destitute then you are a step away from living on the street anyway.

 

[sepheronx]

The mods will punish me long before they punish you. Have you ever been banned for a year for mouthing off to a moderator. I think not.

But anyway your increased electricity bill uptick will be trivial for the value retained in gaming as an entertainment source. If a couple of dollars extra a month is going to leave you destitute then you are a step away from living on the street anyway.

Value retained in gaming? What a good joke mate.

Yeah, so I can play shit optimized tower climber #3645 for the umpteenth time.

Excuses being made because Nvidia can't optimize their crap worth a damn and just keep increasing power requirements just to make barely playable shit slightly more playable. Oh, and the fact they also are gonna attempt to control the pricing market as well, is sad honestly.

All the while eurocucks are protesting cause their governments are retarded beyond belief and Italian grandparents are rummaging through garbage for food.

 

[64K]

In every city that I have lived in here in the USA there is a community kitchen and a food bank. No one is going hungry or cold and they never will.

Who are these people searching into trash cans for food. Let me know and I will send them some money.

 

[pavle]

Just dust off that old GTX 680 and go a round of Domination in UT99, you don't need any fancy ray-tracing there to look good!

 

[64K]

Well, where are theses starving people? I will help whatever it takes.