Microsoft Unveils the Windows 11 2022 Update, Available Today

[AusWolf]

"In fact, Windows 11 is the most used and most loved version of Windows ever."

*cough* Erm, what? Literally everybody I know hates it.

 

[izy]

Did they add Never Combine taskbar buttons ?

 

[c2DDragon]

Does it really add something useful to go from 10 to 11 ?
I mean...something more interesting than more bugs and insane behaviors than what can offer Windows 10 right now ?
I plan to upgrade my old CPU this winter so I'm asking ^^

I still wonder if Linux with a noob friendly UI wouldn't be a better choice.
Windows 10 Pro is a total mess in my eyes when it is about group policies not applying, even when you force them, the registry is the only thing working for almost everything you want to tweak and it sucks from my point of view.
Is Windows 11 even more user blocker (user friendly as they say) ?

 

[lexluthermiester]

"In fact, Windows 11 is the most used and most loved version of Windows ever."

*cough* Erm, what? Literally everybody I know hates it.

While that first part is hog-wash, Windows 7 is the most used and love version of Windows ever, that last part is silly. I don't know anyone who "hates" Windows 11. Most like it better than 10. But almost universally people miss Windows 7.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

My main complain about Win11 is right clicking on a file often has a notable delay before the context pop-up appears.

This has been a feature in Excel for as long as I can remember. Right click, Format Cell… The ensuing subwindow has always taken mysteriously long to open. Been that way on every version of Office I’ve used, on multiple PCs. I have 365 at work, it has always left me wondering.

 

[cvaldes]

This has been a feature in Excel for as long as I can remember. Right click, Format Cell… The ensuing subwindow has always taken mysteriously long to open. Been that way on every version of Office I’ve used, on multiple PCs. I have 365 at work, it has always left me wondering.

Weird, the right-click contextual menu pops up immediately for me (Excel from Office 2019 Home & Student, Windows 10 Pro 21H2). This is on my daily driver desktop PC build (Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB RAM, B550-I mobo, RTX 3050 graphics).

I have a mundane notebook PC (Ice Lake CPU with integrated graphics, 8GB RAM, Win 10 Home, same version of Office) that performs similarly.

 

[Bomby569]

did they fix the choice hidden under another choice in the menus?

 

[L'Eliminateur]

In fact, Windows 11 is the most used and most loved version of Windows ever.

*SNORT*, ¿what?, what kind of magic bullshit land do the marketing people that write these shit live in?.
They're completely disconnected from reality....

Reality check: It's one of the most hated versions, source: steam survey from august https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
shows 70% for windows 10

It's slower than windows 10 in everything, the UI is atrocious and it's loaded to the gill with big daddy oversight.

In fact, it's so egregious that there's ZERO mention of performance improvements AT ALL. ¿why is it that with each new linux kernel linux becomes faster, but every new shit windows turns even slower?

 

[evernessince]

That can be handled by the use of display scaling, which I believe still affects thumbnails displayed. Settings->System->Display->Scale&Layout

I appreciate the tip. Unfortunately that don't increase thumbnail size and just makes everything else larger. I am able to get thumbnail sizes larger with XYplorer but I don't like the lack of interface flexability with that application.

Windows thumbnail cache is limited to 256 x 256 so any increase in size would come with a reduction in visual quality if the scale did increase. MS have to increase the size of the thumbnail cache or at the very least, give the user the option to do so.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I appreciate the tip. Unfortunately that don't increase thumbnail size and just makes everything else larger.

Weird, I could swear it did..

I remember reading about someone elsewhere having the same issue, the following was one of the suggestions made.

1. Hold down the “Windows key” and press “R“.
2. Type “regedit” and click “OK“.
3. Navigate to the following location in the registry.
   • HKEY_CURRENT_USER
   • Software
   • Microsoft
   • Windows
   • CurrentVersion
   • Explorer
4. Look for an entry on the right side for “ThumbnailSize“. If you can’t find it, then right-click on “Explorer” and select “New” > “DWORD Value” and type “ThumbnailSize” for the name and press “Enter“.
5. Double click “ThumbnailSize” and set the value to a number between “32” and “256“. The higher the number, the larger the image thumbnails.
6. Close the registry editor and you’re ready to view your photo thumbnails in the size you wish.

Setting 512 might work. No harm in trying.

Alternatively, you use a different file manager that has settings like what you need. In that same thread Brink mentioned Explorer++, which is free and very handy! It's very lean and clean.

 

[evernessince]

Weird, I could swear it did..

I remember reading about someone elsewhere having the same issue, the following was one of the suggestions made.

1. Hold down the “Windows key” and press “R“.
2. Type “regedit” and click “OK“.
3. Navigate to the following location in the registry.
   • HKEY_CURRENT_USER
   • Software
   • Microsoft
   • Windows
   • CurrentVersion
   • Explorer
4. Look for an entry on the right side for “ThumbnailSize“. If you can’t find it, then right-click on “Explorer” and select “New” > “DWORD Value” and type “ThumbnailSize” for the name and press “Enter“.
5. Double click “ThumbnailSize” and set the value to a number between “32” and “256“. The higher the number, the larger the image thumbnails.
6. Close the registry editor and you’re ready to view your photo thumbnails in the size you wish.

Setting 512 might work. No harm in trying.

Alternatively, you use a different file manager that has settings like what you need. In that same thread Brink mentioned Explorer++, which is free and very handy! It's very lean and clean.

Appreciate it, I'll try this out.

 

[Lycanwolfen]

DId they actually fix anything? Lets see now Most hated features of windows 11 I hear from everyone that runs it even the most simple user. Right and each time now have to hit more options to do anything annoying. No simple easy to use privacy settings like windows 10 had one button turn off background apps. Have to click ten times more to find the same things windows 10 had in 2 clicks. Start menu still in middle and widgets where it used to be. This pisses more people off than I know. yes you can move it back but most users dunno know where it is. IF MS wanted to be more like apple then be more like apple there file menu at the top has not changed in 22 years. They added new features yes but they keep constant with the same format across all OS's. I wonder or should I wait till windows 12 comes out with all the fixes. Most hated feature I hate the most right click taskbar and no menu at all no toolbar menu no task manager nothing have to hit control shift esc now just to bring it up. Not fun when fixing computers remote.

They should advertise Windows 11 for stupid users who want no control over there computer.

 

[freeagent]

I don't mind it. Visually it is a little nicer. I am dual booting them booth right now, 10 benches better..

But I don't work on my pc and only spend a couple hours a day on it during the week.

 

[xorbe]

Did they add Never Combine taskbar buttons ?

From what I read, no.

Is there any way to prod Check for Updates to phase me in? I'm not selected yet.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Appreciate it, I'll try this out.

I just did to remind myself. It's limited to the same 256x256. If I remember which file manager can do custom thumbnail sizes, I'll chime back in. I know XYplorer does, but it's a paid app. But to be fair it's an excellent and highly configurable/customizable file manager. Let me dig around and I'll see if I can find the one I'm thinking of...

 

[RadeonProVega]

No change in gaming performance, no need for me to upgrade.
Windows 10 Pro Workstation for life baby.

 

[cvaldes]

From what I read, no.

Is there any way to prod Check for Updates to phase me in? I'm not selected yet.

Try this:

Windows 11 22H2 drivers released: How to download and update

Windows 11 22H2, otherwise known as Windows 11 2022 Update, is now rolling out to consumers. This is the first major update to Windows 11 since its release in October 2021. At the moment, version 22H2 is available to ‘seekers’ who manually choose to download and install the update. It comes with...

www.windowslatest.com

If that doesn't work, you can download the ISO and use Rufus to make a bootable USB installer drive.

Download Windows 11 23H2 ISO images (direct download links)

Direct download links for Windows 11 ISO images refreshed with version 23H2 (2023 Update) features and improvements.

www.windowslatest.com

Best of luck.

Disclaimer: I have not installed this Windows 11 version.

 

[gmn17]

yep updated successfully

 

[trparky]

 

[L'Eliminateur]

No change in gaming performance, no need for me to upgrade.
Windows 10 Pro Workstation for life baby.

"ACHSUALLY", the performance is worse than win10. Unless you're using one of those useless alder lake with e-core turds

 

[trparky]

From what I read, no.

Is there any way to prod Check for Updates to phase me in? I'm not selected yet.

I used the Windows 11 Upgrade Assistant to install the upgrade.

"ACHSUALLY", the performance is worse than win10. Unless you're using one of those useless alder lake with e-core turds

Well, considering that most older CPUs are vulnerable to a number of side-channel attack methods, then yes... performance is going to suffer because Windows has to mitigate those vulnerabilities. Hence my reasons to do a whole platform upgrade in a few weeks.

 

[L'Eliminateur]

I used the Windows 11 Upgrade Assistant to install the upgrade.


Well, considering that most older CPUs are vulnerable to a number of side-channel attack methods, then yes... performance is going to suffer because Windows has to mitigate those vulnerabilities. Hence my reasons to do a whole platform upgrade in a few weeks.

Windows 10 already has all those mitigations, win11 does not add anything new save for that "full virtualized" and "smart app control" mode that comes disabled by default as it nukes your performance.

Also, first thing i do on win10 is to disable any and all mitigations, all that "side channel" nonsense is moot for desktop users and ends up hurting performance.
When i upgrade to new platforms, i'll do the same disabling any and all mitigations inw indows, bios, and firmware. I want and paid for performance , not for some dumb patch to do a regression to 2 cpu generations behind

 

[trparky]

Windows 10 already has all those mitigations, win11 does not add anything new save for that "full virtualized" and "smart app control" mode that comes disabled by default as it nukes your performance.

You do know that you can turn off "full virtualization" mode. Right?

 

[1d10t]

No thanks, I stayed in 10 and my notebook also downgraded to 10, VM runs smoother, no janky and clunky menu until October 2025.

 

[lexluthermiester]

"ACHSUALLY", the performance is worse than win10. Unless you're using one of those useless alder lake with e-core turds

Actually, as with many things, it depends. If you run 11 in it's default state and compare against 10 in a lean state, then yes 10 does better. However if both 10 and 11 are running in a lean and clean config state 11 edges out 10 just a little bit. Not enough to matter for most tasks, but it is measurable.

So can we stop with the 10 is better than 11 nonsense?