Eh, USB has a small plug cycle?Most small plugs like that including usb etc etc typically have a low in/out cycle life.
Eh, USB has a small plug cycle?Most small plugs like that including usb etc etc typically have a low in/out cycle life.
This is an irresponsible article. 30 connection cycles is an industry standard and this rating does not make this any less safe than the PCIe connectors you've already been using. Proof: https://www.molex.com/webdocs/datasheets/pdf/en-us/0455860005_PCB_HEADERS.pdf
Ctrl+F for "mating cycles" in that document.
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My point is that these 30-cycle connectors are already in all of the consumer graphics cards you've been buying for the last 15 years. This is nothing new. These are power connectors designed to be used a fairly limited number of times, not USB cables.It's the typical industrial ass covering, but I think Zotac is more irresponsible by bringing that to a consumer product. USB-C has a service life of 10000 cycles for example
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It's the typical industrial ass covering, but I think Zotac is more irresponsible by bringing that to a consumer product. USB-C has a service life of 10000 cycles for example
30 cycles? Not great, not terrible. I've seen worse.Completely normal phenomenon.
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This is ridiculous. What is your logic/reasoning /proof of this?GPU you should be replacing paste once per year.
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Thermal Grizzly has entered the chat and raises eyebrows...GPU you should be replacing paste once per year.
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Compared to spec grade and hospital grade 120vac plugs which are in the 1000's maybe 10,000+Eh, USB has a small plug cycle?
Yeah... if you use the adapter.You can leave the adapter on the card always/forever and you should have no issues. Also dont be a savage.
Yeah. My kid doesn't get many "duty cycles" out of USB 3.0. They're usually broken in about three months time. Even with strain relief.Compared to spec grade and hospital grade 120vac plugs which are in the 1000's maybe 10,000+
Yes.
I've seen crappy $ store usb cords wear in probably less than 100 i/o's Now USB A no problem, just squish the connector a bit for a good tight fit
Limited service life with up to 30 connect / disconnects.
NVIDIA isn't taking any chances with safety.
It's about as much power as a travel hairdryer, which comes with a similar-sized 2-pin AC plug. It won't burn houses. Besides 12VHPWR is an ATX standard, NVIDIA only implemented it.
Buy used PSU. Replace all cables. That's also actually good practice when buying all of these used PSUs dumped on the market left over from torn down mining rigs.One issue I can see is when buying used, you don't know how many times the damn thing has been used.
This is ridiculous, especially given the price of these cards, one expects premium quality.
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This is ridiculous. What is your logic/reasoning /proof of this?
Der8auer who owns Thermal Grizzly. It's called the pump out effect. The lower the viscosity of a paste the quicker the process is. Lower viscosity paste tends to perform better than that of high viscosity paste at the cost of increased pump out. Intel stock paste for example of a low performing high viscosity paste but doesn't need to be replaced frequently.
This is particularly important for high wattage components like GPUs as the larger heat load means the impact of pump out is more pronounced.
This is what I've been saying. Everyone's freaking out over nothing.
@btarunr Please update the article.
I would say buy anything miners used, they don't abuse their hardware unlike gamers.Buy used PSU. Replace all cables. That's also actually good practice when buying all of these used PSUs dumped on the market left over from torn down mining rigs.
Wonder why didn't they just mention this, whoever decided to suddenly mention this wanted to create drama.WCCFTECH:
"Update: We have confirmed with NVIDIA that the 30-cycle spec for the 16-pin connector is the same as it has been for the past 20+ years. The same 30-cycle spec exists for the standard PCIe/ATX 8-pin connector (aka mini-fit Molex). The same connector is used by AMD and all other GPU vendors too so all of those cards also share a 30-cycle life. So in short, nothing has changed for the RTX 40 GPU series."
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The 4 pin doesn't deliver power, it just for feedback and power regulation. Like pwm just for the gpu so you need 4 and not just 1 as in fans.I'm confused as to why it's a 12+4 connector. Why not just 16 pin? Have we seen any designs that use only the 12 pin? It seems like it would be cheaper and easier to manufacture to use only the 16 pin design... even if the card is only physically wired for 12 pins, just leave the 4 additional pins unpopulated.