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[INSTG8R]

I've heard quite good things about that Kombo Strike Jayztwocents seems to think it's great on 7000 series cpu's where he got it to undervolt and maintain a 5.1GHz allcore in CB23 all at a 10 degrees less than stock

It's made a huge difference just in normal usage because it's kinda a PBO/Curve Optimizer so on that front it's really lowered my temps quite a bit, I was genuinely concerned at the temps I was seeing initially and was even questioning my WC Block mount. I knew it would run warmer but it was a little too warm for my liking but the Kombo Strike has made a huge difference and calmed my concerns. I mean fully stock under full MT load it was touching 90 with Kombo Strike on it's low 80s max and as I said even under normal gaming usage(all I use it for) Temps all round have improved. I would agree I get about a 10C improvement as well.

 

[freeagent]

Hmm maybe I will keep my fans installed if it runs that warm.. mine should be here in a few hours. It’s in my city and a delivery agent has been assigned to my shipment, and the Amazon facility is about 1.5km from my door.

 

[INSTG8R]

Hmm maybe I will keep my fans installed if it runs that warm.. mine should be here in a few hours. It’s in my city and a delivery agent has been assigned to my shipment, and the Amazon facility is about 1.5km from my door.

That 3D cache is apparently 12nm so it’s a “Toasty Boy” totally manageable but just be prepared for higher than normal temps. Even at idle it’s pretty warm.

 

[freeagent]

That 3D cache is apparently 12nm so it’s a “Toasty Boy” totally manageable but just be prepared for higher than normal temps. Even at idle it’s pretty warm.

No way.. not at all. I have yet to see 75c out of it. I am only running the two stock fractal fans up front and a single TY-143 on the cooler. In R23 30 min test it was only doing 4335MHz though at about 72c. Aida and stuff it will hit 4550. Can’t do 2000 fclk stable, now switching to dual rank because I couldn’t nail 3933 either. I pretty much have no control over the core clocks.. and fclk isn’t stellar in a 1R config, so might as well add another pair and run at whatever I get

The system is super quiet though.. should be I only saw 120w ish PPT, maybe a bit more.

 

[INSTG8R]

No way.. not at all. I have yet to see 75c out of it. I am only running the two stock fractal fans up front and a single TY-143 on the cooler. In R23 30 min test it was only doing 4335MHz though at about 72c. Aida and stuff it will hit 4550. Can’t do 2000 fclk stable, now switching to dual rank because I couldn’t nail 3933 either. I pretty much have no control over the core clocks.. and fclk isn’t stellar in a 1R config, so might as well add another pair and run at whatever I get

The system is super quiet though.. should be I only saw 120w ish PPT, maybe a bit more.

I’m not saying it’s not a manageable CPU just saying it runs warmer than average. I totally gave up on any kind or memory/IF OC it just doesn’t take even maxing out the SoC to a safe limit(1.1) I have zero issues getting 4550 in R23 and yeah maybe topped out at 75C. But I mean I’m used to 30C idle not 37 and getting over 40 at the slightest poke.
Don’t misunderstand that I think it’s a hot CPU I”m just saying on average it runs warmer than normal considering the boost is 4450 and the voltage only maxes out at 1.26 compared to my previous 5600X at 4850 at 1.35V comparing the 2 the 5800X3D does run warmer on considerably less power across the board

 

[phanbuey]

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Indeed... no point in upgrading to Raptor Lake or even zen 4 for you.
I was able to get 873 points (single) with my 12600 (non-K) air cooled (original box from Intel).
Thing is: I'm getting high scores only in the first two or three runs, then scores drops to near 800 points.
Do you have any ideia why is this happening? It seems some kind of throttling, but thermals and power are OK, not exceeding.
Do your scores also drops after a few consecutive runs? TIA.

I've tried it out -- it doesn't drop for me unless something starts running then it drops by a few points. It kind of sounds like a software is running in the background? Maybe indexing or defender or something that is causing that.

 

[ezmafl]

Agreed; programs are typically running in the background, possibly Windows updates, Anti-malware updates, system interrupts, service hosts, etc. I'm probably stating what you already know, but if cold booting, let the system rest for about 5 minutes or so, close unneeded tray applications, don't have HWInfo or other monitoring programs up, etc. I see fluctuating single threaded scores, too, but not 8-10%.

Mine are more like 10-15 points for single-thread. For me, this happened after cleaning installing Win11 via Media Creation Tool. Everything was fine until I installed MSI Afterburner (with it configured to load a default profile on Windows startup). Not sure if this helps any...

 

[Det0x]

Zen4 @ 6ghz
CPU-Z AVX 512 single threaded:

 

[phanbuey]

Zen4 @ 6ghz
CPU-Z AVX 512 single threaded:
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Shouldn't AVX 512 be faster than AVX2?

Avx 2 at 5.2

 

[dont whant to set it"']

It might be a bug: reported operating frequency is higher, yet scores are lower.
I've experienced it with regular Zen 2/3 , when tuning PBO /Curve optimizer / power limits and curent limits.

 

[The King]

Will try to break 7000 MT and 700 ST soon! Once I get my AIO

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 4498.95 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

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[Outback Bronze]

My First 6GHz on 8 Cores : )

Untuned stock 4800Mhz on DDR5 and CPU voltage. Quick and dirty.

Would def go higher on water. This was on Air with a U9S Noctua for HTPC.

 

[ezmafl]

Pretty remarkable difference between the 10th and 12th gen mobile CPUs -- i5-1035g1 (4C/8T) vs. i5-1235u (2P/8E/12T). The single thread on the 12th Gen beat my old i7-10700K at 5ghz (607) and i9-10850K at 4.9ghz (621).

 

[BetrayerX]

 

[bgeneto]

My First 6GHz on 8 Cores : )

Untuned stock 4800Mhz on DDR5 and CPU voltage. Quick and dirty.

Would def go higher on water. This was on Air with a U9S Noctua for HTPC.

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E-cores and hyperthreading disabled, right? Well done! Keep pushing, even a 12600 can hit 900 ST points under those conditions.... I think your 13th-Gen can break the 1000 barrier easily if you focus on ST performance. Just Let us know when you break the thousand barrier

 

[Outback Bronze]

E-cores and hyperthreading disabled, right? Well done! Keep pushing, even a 12600 can hit 900 ST points under those conditions.... I think your 13th-Gen can break the 1000 barrier easily if you focus on ST performance. Just Let us know when you break the thousand barrier

Can't push any further atm. I'm happy with that on a HTPC cooler!

I'll leave the rest to the Hardcore OC's.

 

[bgeneto]

Shouldn't AVX 512 be faster than AVX2?

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Avx 2 at 5.2

My AVX-2 is slightly faster (and consumes more power) than AVX-512:

AVX-2:

AVX-512:

 

[Tech_fanatic]

It would be hard beat this one...

 

[Tech_fanatic]

My 5 year old laptop still does the job albeit at a much slower rate compared to the best out there!

 

[phanbuey]

current undervolted / 220W limited 13700KF with +2 boost offset:

Loving this chip so far - super stable and boost works much better out of the box - 5.5Ghz all core in games is nice. Undervolting doesn't make the chip unstable, just cuts effective clock - easiest OC/tune of my life.

 

[Franz]

current undervolted / 220W limited 13700KF with +2 boost offset:

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Loving this chip so far - super stable and boost works much better out of the box - 5.5Ghz all core in games is nice. Undervolting doesn't make the chip unstable, just cuts effective clock - easiest OC/tune of my life.

Wait, did you overclocked with undervolt?

 

[phanbuey]

Wait, did you overclocked with undervolt?

it's auto voltage, so the chip uses it's own voltage table, I just tuned it as low as it would go without losing performance - and then basically found that my mb was overvolting and put a -20mv undervolt to it - and then just started testing the best offsets - +2 gave the best performance with minimal increase in wattage/power and still stayed under the power cap unless I was cinebenching.

Capped it to 220W so it doesn't go above 85C at full load and so I have headroom for 7900XT(X?), but it loses no performance in gaming and still gets 27500 in cinebech, 22K timespy cpu score, 10K timespy extreme (with pretty quiet fans).

Pretty great chip - won't match Zen4 Vcache but will be great for a while nontheless.

 

[bgeneto]

it's auto voltage, so the chip uses it's own voltage table, I just tuned it as low as it would go without losing performance - and then basically found that my mb was overvolting and put a -20mv undervolt to it - and then just started testing the best offsets - +2 gave the best performance with minimal increase in wattage/power and still stayed under the power cap unless I was cinebenching.

Capped it to 220W so it doesn't go above 85C at full load and so I have headroom for 7900XT(X?), but it loses no performance in gaming and still gets 27500 in cinebech, 22K timespy cpu score, 10K timespy extreme (with pretty quiet fans).

Pretty great chip - won't match Zen4 Vcache but will be great for a while nontheless.

I think (for gaming) you can cap way below 220W without almost any fps drop. Check out the 13900K efficiency der8auer video on this topic.

 

[igralec84]

Curve optimizer -10 all cores, boost override +100, memory manually set from 5600 CL40 to 6000 CL32.

 

[phanbuey]

I think (for gaming) you can cap way below 220W without almost any fps drop. Check out the 13900K efficiency der8auer video on this topic.

I tested it in my games and there is a max spike of 190w in cyberpunk so that’s why I set it at 220w - also that still gives me room to cram a 420w vga in there and not worry about popping the sf750