Did you know any CPU, and even at stock operation, will eventually degrade?
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Heat, power, voltage, all plays a role in accelerating this proces. At 95 degrees they tested it to be safe. And i dont think any of us here is taxing such a CPU for 24/7 rendering or something simular, while constantly running at 95 degrees. It has a max of 115 degrees but AMD is warning that degradation for long term periods on that temperature can or will cause degradation.
I think after a few years these CPU's will still function perfectly as intended. Even after warranty. However Bullzoid already blew up a 7950x for running it at 1.41V or so.
yes?
You're kinda ignoring the "PLANNED DEGRADATION" part, the one close to, or is planned obsolescence.
Of course degradation of tools over time (including PC parts) is natural, no one expects them to last forever.
BUT planned obsolescence isn't the same as normal wear and tear.
The user that this was a response to alleged AMD is doing a planned degradation/obsolescence, by having the CPU running up to 95c "all the time".
It's not guaranteed, but if that is the true, and it's a
major degradation after the warranty period (it doesn't matter necessarily matter here, basing on the mentioned lawsuits), AMD could
possibly get sued, and pay fines.
You either didn't read what i wrote, or you mis interpreted all of it.
1. "up to" with boost
2. There is NOTHING in the hardware that allows them to monitor "Degradation" so this concept of lowering clocks over time is utterly impossible.
And you seems to have done the same.
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During the early 3000-series, was many who claimed their CPU's couldn't reach the advertised boost. Referencing among other, this:
https://wccftech.com/der8auers-ryzen-3000-series-boost-survey-reveals-worse-than-expected-boosting/
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the new CPU not reaching boost could have been a court case in EU.
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Where the f does minor degradation comes from?
There is a reason I included "
Planned obsolescence" in every post here. I had hoped it would imply MAJOR degradation.
A user earlier in the thread alleged that the 95c limit by AMD was bad, and that it would degrade the CPU after warranty period.
IF it is a planned degradation (outside of normal wear and tear), in the form of planned obsolescence, then that is illegal (in EU), and they put themselves at risk of getting sued (see, the keyword "at risk"), that risk is still there after warranty period.
Which among others, this is:
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Manufacturer is not protected from widespread failure/obsolescence AFTER warranty, as shown in the iPhone 7 link. Where Apple was sued
after warranty period.
