[EOL] Arctic MX-5 is here!!Tests incoming! Completed. Now its MX-6 testing time!

freeagent · Sep 22, 2022

I thought it would be MX-5 GT or SE or something, not a completely different name

lexluthermiester · Sep 22, 2022

freeagent said:
I thought it would be MX-5 GT or SE or something, not a completely different name

They might have changed the formulation.

cvaldes · Sep 23, 2022

freeagent said:
I thought it would be MX-5 GT or SE or something, not a completely different name

That would be unwise. The MX-5 now has a bad rep.

Releasing a new product using a derivation of the same model number doesn't make sense. Joe Consumer will search for "MX-5" and probably find out that the product has been discontinued by the manufacturer. Too confusing.

And it would lead to repeated questions about why the original MX-5 was discontinued. Do you think Arctic really wants to spend the next 5-10 years regurgitating the same story for the millionth time? Clearly you do not work in marketing.

And 6 implies that it is better/greater than 5.

Bones · Sep 23, 2022

More info on MX-6, including what looks ATM to be the price:
Arctic halts troublesome MX-5 thermal paste; MX-6 successor spotted at almost three times the price

Most of this has already been seen but the comments show what alot of people are thinking about it.

maxfly · Sep 23, 2022

The glass part had me giggling yesterday. It's a little bit odd that the Arctic store isn't the seller as well. I want to know how Amazon got the hook up.

lexluthermiester · Sep 23, 2022

maxfly said:
The glass part had me giggling yesterday. It's a little bit odd that the Arctic store isn't the seller as well. I want to know how Amazon got the hook up.

If you look at the posts 1247 & 1248 on page 50 of this thread you will see both listing are from the Arctic official store.

Athlonite · Sep 23, 2022

I'm just going to use bacon fat so when I'm gaming it'll smell good

maxfly · Sep 23, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
If you look at the posts 1247 & 1248 on page 50 of this thread you will see both listing are from the Arctic official store.

The pic from the g3d article is what I was commenting on, dispatched and sold by Amazon

Athlonite said:
I'm just going to use bacon fat so when I'm gaming it'll smell good

Mmmm time for breakfast.

Pictus · Sep 23, 2022

Athlonite said:
I'm just going to use bacon fat so when I'm gaming it'll smell good

I prefer the clove/eugenol smell from Thermalright TFX and Zezzio ZT-GX.

maxfly · Sep 23, 2022

Pictus said:
I prefer the clove/eugenol smell from Thermalright TFX and Zezzio ZT-GX.

Completely ot but a friend of mine used to smoke clove cigarettes (when we were younger) for special occasions. Generally copious amounts of alcohol were required. I'd laugh my ass off as they snapped and popped like trick cigars as he smoked them.
I never cared for the thick acrid smoke tho. I preferred the other more, cough, cough, natural tobbacky back then

Ah to be young and silly again!

I cant imagine how your concoction must smell hahaha
:/

lexluthermiester · Sep 24, 2022

maxfly said:
The pic from the g3d article is what I was commenting on, dispatched and sold by Amazon

Ah, fair enough.

Mussels · Oct 2, 2022

It's under Patio Lawn and Garden

It's been mislisted by some automated system

lexluthermiester · Oct 2, 2022

Mussels said:
It's under Patio Lawn and Garden
View attachment 263963It's been mislisted by some automated system

View attachment 263962

We know. It's just a placeholder listing. If you look at the details, it's from the Arctic company store.

Mussels · Oct 3, 2022

One heart shaped unscented piece of glass coming right up, new AM5 IHS i guess

ViperXTR · Oct 9, 2022

Just re applied my MX-5 (due to having also replaced my arctic LF II gasket and cold plate) and noticed that it's still consistent after almost a year of use like it didn't harden that much despite what some batch of MX-5 they say are problematic.

maxfly · Oct 9, 2022

ViperXTR said:
Just re applied my MX-5 (due to having also replaced my arctic LF II gasket and cold plate) and noticed that it's still consistent after almost a year of use like it didn't harden that much despite what some batch of MX-5 they say are problematic.

Yeah, I haven't seen any difference in the tube I bought either. Consistency and performance are the same.
Still have quite a bit left.

MachineLearning · Oct 9, 2022

ViperXTR said:
Just re applied my MX-5 (due to having also replaced my arctic LF II gasket and cold plate) and noticed that it's still consistent after almost a year of use like it didn't harden that much despite what some batch of MX-5 they say are problematic.

On this: I thought it was interesting that Arctic sent out MX-5 with the LFII repair kit. They must be clearing out (hopefully QC'd) their inventory of that paste.

Suppose once it's all gone, MX-6 is announced.
I just hope that MX-2 isn't discontinued any time soon, it's the best perf/$ for mass applications.

ViperXTR · Oct 9, 2022

MachineLearning said:
On this: I thought it was interesting that Arctic sent out MX-5 with the LFII repair kit. They must be clearing out (hopefully QC'd) their inventory of that paste.

Suppose once it's all gone, MX-6 is announced.
I just hope that MX-2 isn't discontinued any time soon, it's the best perf/$ for mass applications.

Now that you mentioned it, i still used my old tube of MX-5 instead of the one sent by arctic on the LFII service kit

doyll · Oct 10, 2022

Been using Thermalright TIM for like 15 years. I've upgraded to newer version so am now using last of my TF8 and started using TF9. It's a little stiffer than I like to apply so I heat tube in hot water or set on radiator so it's about 32-37c. Then it flows and spread very nicely.

maxfly · Oct 10, 2022

doyll said:
Been using Thermalright TIM for like 15 years. I've upgraded to newer version so am now using last of my TF8 and started using TF9. It's a little stiffer than I like to apply so I heat tube in hot water or set on radiator so it's about 32-37c. Then it flows and spread very nicely.

I've got a bunch of little tubes of tf7 that came with the Thermalright peerless assassin 120s I bought recently. I couldn't remember if I tried it or not and obviously couldn't remember if it is any good. I know your a Thermalright guru so what are your thoughts about it? Should I hang onto it or toss it?

Some goes for our man @freeagent Yea or nay?

Keep in mind I have alot of high quality tim as is. Not saying I won't try it but if it's not top notch it'll probably just sit forever.

freeagent · Oct 10, 2022

maxfly said:
I've got a bunch of little tubes of tf7 that came with the Thermalright peerless assassin 120s I bought recently. I couldn't remember if I tried it or not and obviously couldn't remember if it is any good. I know your a Thermalright guru so what are your thoughts about it? Should I hang onto it or toss it?

Some goes for our man @freeagent Yea or nay?

Keep in mind I have alot of high quality tim as is. Not saying I won't try it but if it's not top notch it'll probably just sit forever.

Im using TF7 right now, I think it is pretty good! I had a big tube of TF8 a few years ago and I thought it was awesome stuff, but at the time could only get it from China, so a bit of a wait. TFX is really good too, maybe the best I have tried? I used it on a 3600XT and a passive Le Grand Macho RT with a static OC of 4400MHz and it was Linpack stable. It would do 4500MHz as well, but temps would hit 90 with Linpack.

doyll · Oct 10, 2022

maxfly said:
I've got a bunch of little tubes of tf7 that came with the Thermalright peerless assassin 120s I bought recently. I couldn't remember if I tried it or not and obviously couldn't remember if it is any good. I know your a Thermalright guru so what are your thoughts about it? Should I hang onto it or toss it?

Some goes for our man @freeagent Yea or nay?

Keep in mind I have alot of high quality tim as is. Not saying I won't try it but if it's not top notch it'll probably just sit forever.

Nothing wrong with TF7. I used up a couple tubes before changing to TF8. Changed only because I ran out of TF7.

Thermalright TF7 is rated 12.8 W/mk.

TF6 is/was (EOL) 12.5 W/mk

TF8 is 13.8 W/mk

TF9 is 14 W/mk

TFX is 14.3 W/mk

When I use up this last tube of TF8 I have a couple tube of TFX, so that's what I will be using.

Honestly, I've seen only a couple degrees improvement from TF7 to TF9. Maybe not even that. I have a couple of little tube (included with coolers). I will try and put together a test of as many as I have, but I don't know when I will be doing it. I don't expect to see much difference. Best heat transfer is metal to metal with only microscopic void in crystalline structure filled with tiny bits of TIM. Last time I checked, most cooler bases and IHS are copper with plating with a few aluminum bases on cheaper models. Air is 0.024 W/mk, copper is 400W/mk and aluminum is about 240W/mk. That's 240-400 W/mk full metal contact compared to 13-15W/mk with TIM versus 0.024 W/mk with nothing. Pretty obvious most heat transfer is metal to metal, so the better the metal match is, the better the heat transfer.

freeagent said:
Im using TF7 right now, I think it is pretty good! I had a big tube of TF8 a few years ago and I thought it was awesome stuff, but at the time could only get it from China, so a bit of a wait. TFX is really good too, maybe the best I have tried? I used it on a 3600XT and a passive Le Grand Macho RT with a static OC of 4400MHz and it was Linpack stable. It would do 4500MHz as well, but temps would hit 90 with Linpack.

Any idea in degrees celcius difference between TF7 and TF8? Or TF7/TF8 to TFX? No problem if you haven't tested them either.

lexluthermiester · Oct 10, 2022

doyll said:
Nothing wrong with TF7. I used up a couple tubes before changing to TF8. Changed only because I ran out of TF7.
Thermalright TF7 is rated 12.8 W/mk.
[TF6 is/was (EOL) 12.5 W/mk
TF8 is 13.8 W/mk
TF9 is 14 W/mk
TFX is 14.3 W/mk
When I use up this last tube of TF8 I have a couple tube of TFX, so that's what I will be using.

It should be noted that these performance numbers only matter when heat load goes above 150W. Under 150w and the differences are almost undetectable and very much inconsequential.

doyll said:
Any idea in degrees celcius difference between TF7 and TF8? Or TF7/TF8 to TFX?

Likely just a few, single digits.

freeagent · Oct 10, 2022

doyll said:
Any idea in degrees celcius difference between TF7 and TF8? Or TF7/TF8 to TFX? No problem if you haven't tested them either.

Nope sorry. I was using TF8 when I was still using Intel. TFX was on 3600XT. For Zen 3 I have only used TF7 and SYY-157, and AS5.

I was thinking of either getting another 6G tube of TF8, or maybe trying out TF9, or just getting some TFX, but it's not cheap. Is TF9 thick like TFX?

doyll · Oct 10, 2022

freeagent said:
Nope sorry. I was using TF8 when I was still using Intel. TFX was on 3600XT. For Zen 3 I have only used TF7 and SYY-157, and AS5.

I was thinking of either getting another 6G tube of TF8, or maybe trying out TF9, or just getting some TFX, but it's not cheap. Is TF9 thick like TFX?

I haven't used TF9 yet. Planning to finish tube of TF8 before I open TF9.

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