NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition

[BSim500]

The only thing that interests me is seeing more efficient and sanely priced lower-end GPU's. My excitement for 4-digit flagship GPU hype is the same as flagship smartphones, absolute zero.

 

[qubit]

Looks beautiful, large and heavy. Would make a nice paperweight.

 

[W1zzard]

While the power consumption at stock speeds wasn't as bad as i thought it would be, for anyone who is thinking of buying this thing and overclocking it, prepare yourself

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Playing Furmark?

 

[mrpaco]

Testing this GPU with a 5800x was a bad move.

your review vs the rest, clearly shows a bottleneck at 1080p and 1440p vs other reviews with 7950x or 12900KS

while TPU shows an improvement vs 3090 of 20% at 1080p and 35% at 1440, others with better CPU like Igor's lab for example show improvements of around 60% for the same resolutions

 

[W1zzard]

DLSS3 is vaporware, maybe we will see in 5 games working properly 6 months from now.

Kurzes Update über die Verfügbarkeit von DLSS 3-Spielen zum Launch der GeForce RTX 4090. Ein paar Highlights sind unter anderem (es wird voraussichtlich noch ein paar mehr geben diese Woche):

• SUPER PEOPLE: Early Access heute Abend um 19 Uhr CET mit DLSS 3 verfügbar
• Loopmancer: DLSS-3-Update am 12. Oktober
• Justice 'Fuyun Court': Neuer Grafik-Showcase verfügbar am 12. Oktober mit DLSS 3
• Microsoft Flight Simulator: Start der Beta für Mitglieder des Xbox-Insider-Programms am 17. Oktober mit DLSS 3
• A Plague Tale: Requiem: Startet am 18. Oktober mit DLSS 3

DLSS 3 wird von vielen führenden Spieleentwicklern unterstützt. Mehr als 35 Spiele und Anwendungen haben ihre Unterstützung angekündigt, darunter:

• A Plague Tale: Requiem
• Atomic Heart
• Black Myth: Wukong
• Bright Memory: Infinite
• Chernobylite
• Conqueror's Blade
• Cyberpunk 2077
• Dakar Desert Rally
• Deliver Us Mars
• Destroy All Humans! 2 - Reprobed
• Dying Light 2 Stay Human
• F1® 22
• F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch
• Frostbite Engine
• HITMAN 3
• Hogwarts Legacy
• ICARUS
• Jurassic World Evolution 2
• Justice
• Loopmancer
• Marauders
• Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
• Microsoft Flight Simulator
• Midnight Ghost Hunt
• Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
• Naraka: Bladepoint
• NVIDIA Omniverse™
• NVIDIA Racer RTX
• PERISH
• Portal With RTX
• Ripout
• S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2: Heart of Chornobyl
• Scathe
• SUPER PEOPLE
• Sword and Fairy 7
• SYNCED
• The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
• THRONE AND LIBERTY
• Tower of Fantasy
• Unity
• Unreal Engine 4 & 5
• Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Germay, run it through Google Translate.

Enabling DLSS 3 is zero work if you have DLSS 2+Reflex, so most games just need to add Reflex, which takes a day or two

Anyways, W1zzard, would it be possible to include a unity game to the test list.

Would love to., Any recommendation.. that's not super CPU limited due to the pos that Unity is?

 

[clopezi]

DLSS3 is vaporware, maybe we will see in 5 games working properly 6 months from now. Physx flashbacks all over again.

C'mon, you are not serious here. DLSS are implemented in so many games, especially games that needs it, AAA. DLSS3 will be implemented in every single AAA game over the next years. Nvidia has a big market share and developers need to put in their games because it's important to many gamers.

jayz2cents review

I see many tech channels and Jayztwocents it's the classic smart ass guy who knows little about everything and a lot about nothing. Pure clickbait.

 

[Pumper]

How exactly is 45% speed up "probably the largest jump gen-over-gen for many year"??
100% (3090Ti) vs 64% (2080Ti) is roughly 56% speed up.

Throw out the CPU limited games like Borderlands 3 and Far Cry 6, etc., and the result will be a lot more impressive.

 

[Wasteland]

The biggest issue of this generation is that other cards despite costing an arm and a leg are castrated too much, not to mention that NVIDIA had no qualms calling RTX 4070 an RTX 4080.

It even looks like there will be no RTX 4060/4050 this gen and Nvidia will continue selling the previous generation stock.

This is my concern too. Though Ada's generational uplift is impressive, it seems like NVIDIA plans to top-load that uplift far more than they have in the past, when flagship/halo cards were typically only 10-15% faster than the more sane "high end options." This is the first time, as far as I'm aware, that the halo card uses a whole different die--not to mention the fact that now NVIDIA will have two 80-class cards using different dies too, lol.

We'll see. Sure looks like the "4080s" will be far less impressive relative to their predecessors than this card is. And as you say, even the cheapest 4080 is out of most consumers' price range, so all of the hoopla over Ada is largely academic. All in all, a good PR day for NVIDIA, but it's hard to look at the overall trend line, in terms of value, as positive.

 

[bogda]

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This chart was made by a youtuber using nVidia's claimed performance of the card: the Y axis is how much % faster the card was VS previous X80 card, so the GTX 480 was around 54% faster than the GTX 280, and so on and so forth.

@W1zzard : any chance you could do something similar to this of the X90 class of GPUs?

It is pointless to compare x80 graphic cards because it is only a marketing term. You can compare flagship vs flagship card or cards with 102 chips.

 

[nguyen]

Throw out the CPU limited games like Borderlands 3 and Far Cry 6, etc., and the result will be a lot more impressive.

Yup, 4090 easily beat 3090 by 80-100% at 4K with RT

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

W1zzard any plans later on to compare two RTX 3090 Ti's in SLI/mGPU in RTX SLI vs one RTX 4090?

most likly going to be a no, because you focus on Triple A games that everyone has to be playing for a mass audience. Makes the forum here feel like a gaming forum more than a pc enthuiast fourm

I do have a list on supposivly mGPU's games, they need confirmation, It might help.

 

[W1zzard]

Testing this GPU with a 5800x was a bad move.

What CPU do you have in your computer?

 

[yeeeeman]

@Wizzard: I think you should've spent more time/more graphs to show what potential DLSS3 has.
People are looking too much into that ~40% only perf increase in raster, which isn't the idea with what nvidia is trying to achieve here.
Also, DLSS3 on bring lower power consumption, instead of 400+W w/ raster only you get 2x fps with dlss and 300W-ish.

People, try to get this in your head. Improving raster performance isn't a simple thing and it's isn't just about adding more SMs. You need to improve everything from memories, controller, buses, algorithms, caches, etc. And increasing only raster will take 10 more years to give you what DLSS3 brings now, 4k RT on 144hz. Just check other reviews w/ DLSS3 and RT games and you'll see what the potential of the card really is... DLSS and AI in general is about instead of doing rasterization the hard way, the brute force way, you do it the smart way...

 

[Space Lynx]

Germay, run it through Google Translate.

Enabling DLSS 3 is zero work if you have DLSS 2+Reflex, so most games just need to add Reflex, which takes a day or two


Would love to., Any recommendation.. that's not super CPU limited due to the pos that Unity is?

this doesn't make any sense to me, then why is it not ready for cyberpunk 2077 at the 4090 launch? they made a big deal of it during their press time.

CB2077 is literally their flagship showcase game for DLSS3, so if it is easy to do that doesn't make any sense to me.

Yup, 4090 easily beat 3090 by 80-100% at 4K with RT

All well and good for people that like ray tracing, I'd rather game at higher frame rates though personally. 60 fps just is not immersive to me anymore.

C'mon, you are not serious here. DLSS are implemented in so many games, especially games that needs it, AAA. DLSS3 will be implemented in every single AAA game over the next years. Nvidia has a big market share and developers need to put in their games because it's important to many gamers.


I see many tech channels and Jayztwocents it's the classic smart ass guy who knows little about everything and a lot about nothing. Pure clickbait.

I am serious, go look at Maxus24, he has several reviews on the TPU website comparing DLSS and native in games, and yes DLSS does make games look better, I will concede that 100%, but performance gains really are not all that much, sometimes its only a few fps gain.

I don't find FSR or DLSS or any of that new tech impressive personally, the whole point of it is to drastically increase FPS without hurting image quality, and it just doesn't give the bonus to fps I'd like to see personally. I will probably play most games in native mode.

 

[metalslaw]

8 games over the (the overall avg) 153fps for 4k.

This card really should have come with DP 2.0 ports. The lack of these ports means this card isn't properly future proof enough.

Hope the 4080ti or/and the 4090ti come out with DP 2.0 ports when they arrive in several months time.

 

[Space Lynx]

8 games over the (the overall avg) 153fps for 4k.

This card really should have come with DP 2.0 ports. The lack of these ports means this card isn't properly future proof enough.

Hope the 4080ti or/and the 4090ti come out with DP 2.0 ports when they arrive in several months time.

Doesn't HDMI 2.1 already max out at like 4k 240hz and 8k 144hz? I mean who would ever need more than that mate?

 

[Dazz023]

@W1zzard
Does dlss3 work if you manually cap fps? Lets say I want to keep the game below my monitor refresh rate for gsync etc...

 

[qubit]

Playing Furmark?

The burning question is: would removing the Furmark power limiter cause it to consume something like 1000W, or would it just blow up?

It's worth your sacrifice...

 

[nguyen]

All well and good for people that like ray tracing, I'd rather game at higher frame rates though personally. 60 fps just is not immersive to me anymore.

For someone who never play competitive games, you sure love your FPS LOL

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard
Does dlss3 work if you manually cap fps? Lets say I want to keep the game below my monitor refresh rate for gsync etc...

Yes, just not with V-Sync

 

[Ayhamb99]

Playing Furmark?

You have a point but nevertheless overclocking this beast is going to require a very very beefy PSU.

 

[W1zzard]

You have a point but nevertheless overclocking this beast is going to require a very very beefy PSU.

Like 600 W GPU + 300 W CPU ?

 

[Arco]

Entire grid explodes.

 

[FeelinFroggy]

Expect more for that price and size. Will stick with my 3080 but will try the arc for my cheaper rig? It doubles the FPS of your 3080. Of course it's expensive, it is the best GPU in the world.

Maybe you should reconsider your expectations. I guess doubling the performance of your 3080 is not good enough. It's easy to complain about the price, but explain which '90 or Titan cards were ever considered reasonably priced?

 

[HTC]

It is pointless to compare x80 graphic cards because it is only a marketing term. You can compare flagship vs flagship card or cards with 102 chips.

No because nVidia changed it: for example, the 4080 series of cards use 103 AND 104 chips apparently, so it wouldn't be an "apples to apples" comparison.

The point is to see how much % faster a 4080 or, in this case, a 4090 card is than it's predecessor and compare it to the % increases of the previous generations of cards.