NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition

[Space Lynx]

For someone who never play competitive games, you sure love your FPS LOL

I do. Take the Witcher 3 for example, when you are in sword combat at 60 to 90 fps, its a great game sure, but then play the game at 165 fps at 165hz monitor, the sword is so smooth, you can see every intricate detail of its movement through the air, its very immersive imo.

and immersive = more fun

now I will concede ray tracing done right would be amazing, but I am not willing to go back to 90 fps or lower. unless its an indie game, like Wizard of Legend, i love playing Wizard of Legend at 60 fps, but i mean that game has very simple 2d graphics, so eh I can't tell the difference in that case.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Very fast but at more than twice the price of the 3090 it isn't impressive.

 

[Space Lynx]

Very fast but at more than twice the price of the 3090 it isn't impressive.

I actually think the 4090 is a good price, you need to think of it as the new Titan though. This card isn't meant for average gamers, it's meant for 4k stuff and 4k gamers pretty much exclusively. I honestly am not sad at all its out of my price range. I just hope RDNA3 can get me at 165 fps 165hz 1440p in games like cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing turned off.

That's all I want. lol

 

[damric]

Looking at that 152FPS average in 4K, it's finally time to test the most powerful cards at 8k.

Those ROPs they crammed in there will like that.

 

[Bwaze]

W1zzard, any chance of Microsoft Flight SImulator benchmark? Even Nvidia was showing off 4090 performance in that simulator, especially with DLSS 3.

Also, does any review site do VR benchmarks, at high resolutions of headsets like PIMAX 8K (3840 × 2160), Varjo VR-3 (2880 × 2720), HTC Vive Pro 2 (4896 x 2448), HP Reverb G2 (4320 x 2160)...?

 

[ThrashZone]

Like 600 W GPU + 300 W CPU ?

Hi,
If you feel lucky that will be enough

 

[W1zzard]

W1zzard, any chance of Microsoft Flight SImulator benchmark? Even Nvidia was showing off 4090 performance in that simulator, especially with DLSS 3.

It's extremely CPU limited. The magic of DLSS 3 is that it doubles frames without consuming CPU or GPU, so it can double frames of CPU limited games too. And no other solution can achieve that, which is why NVIDIA is showcasing it

Also it takes forever to load, is super horrible to benchmark and crashed fairly often on me. I had several WTF moments while taking that video

 

[THU31]

Amazing piece of technology. I would never buy a card like this, but I do not have a problem with a ridiculous flagship product like this existing. This is so much better than SLI ever was (especially the dual-GPU cards). This card will even be whisper quiet after undervolting.

The problem is with the rest of the line-up, at least for now. Maybe AMD can make them lower the prices. If not, we will have to wait until they sell out their 30 series stock.

 

[Space Lynx]

It's extremely CPU limited. The magic of DLSS 3 is that it doubles frames without consuming CPU or GPU, so it can double frames of CPU limited games too. And no other solution can achieve that, which is why NVIDIA is showcasing it

Also it takes forever to load, is super horrible to benchmark and crashed fairly often on me. I had several WTF moments while taking that video

DLSS3 is a dream come true then if it really does manifest itself in this way and for many games not just a handful. Hopefully in 6 months we will have a better picture if it will go the way of Physx or if it will actually make my dreams come true. All I want is high fps, so I am more than happy to give Nvidia the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[Fleurious]

TWO TO FOUR TIMES FASTER!!!

They obviously meant the speed at which cash leaves your wallet

 

[W1zzard]

DLSS3 is a dream come true then if it really does manifest itself in this way and for many games not just a handful. Hopefully in 6 months we will have a better picture if it will go the way of Physx or if it will actually make my dreams come true. All I want is high fps, so I am more than happy to give Nvidia the benefit of the doubt for now.

I feel like every game that supports DLSS will have DLSS 3. For a gamedev it costs nearly nothing to add, one or two days of work, and I'm sure NVIDIA will appreciate in many ways

 

[the54thvoid]

@W1zzard

Can this be done for the 3090FE for a side by side comparison.

As far as the card, aye, it's excellent. Unfortunately, it's for those that have. The have-nots don't seem to have an option from Nvidia for the 4-series if the 4080 12Gb is coming at at over 900 bucks.

Nvidia has carved a new product niche for it's GPU's and I'll gladly walk away from their brand. Of course, if AMD do the same, hell, I'll give up on PC's for gaming. I mean, this is how you drive people to consoles.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Me thinks that using 5800X instead of 5800X3D or 7700X is bottlenecking 4090 up to 1440P. That also keeps power consumption lower and increased the efficiency. My 5c.

TechSpot uses a 5800X3D and they got CPU bound on some titles.

I don't think even a 12900KS will escape being CPU bound on some titles with this card, and it's faster than Zen 4 on games in the aggregate when both are equipped with DDR5-6000 like TPU does.

 

[CyberCT]

Check some more reviews out, there are games showing literally double the performance of a 3090 is rasterization.


Bit surprised by the power charts here, the 4090 is using less power in gaming than a 3090? :S

Found one review that has some VR data.

RTX 4090 Performance – 45 Games, VR & Pro Apps Benchmarked

The $1599 RTX 4090 Performance of 45 Games, VR, SPEC, Pro Apps, Workstation & GPGPU BTR recently received a RTX 4090 Founders Edition (FE) from ... Read more

babeltechreviews.com

Here are the performance increases in these games, compared to a 3090:

64.4%
67.2%
84.4%
72.0%
70.0%

And this is a Valve Index at 150% resolution, which is still lower than the native resolution of the HP Reverb G2 V2.

 

[LFaWolf]

A lot people are missing the point, this is a halo, flagship card. If is not for everyone. If you already have a 3080, chances are you should be looking at 4080 (whatever the variants) or not upgrading generation over generation. The 4090 is for well-to-do enthusiats or power users that need all the vram for professional work and have the proper discretionary income to do so. If you have to look at the performance to price ratio this card is not for you.

 

[W1zzard]

Can this be done for the 3090FE for a side by side comparison.

3090 FE will be the same on all due to power limiter. I touched on this in the conclusion's power paragraph

 

[HTC]

this is a halo, flagship card. If is not for everyone

Isn't that supposed to be the 4090 Ti?

 

[codex5600x]

Wow,very good improvements, but is so expensive

 

[GhostRyder]

I mean, the power consumption seems high to me but I think for the performance jump it sort of justifies it. I mean the Ray Tracing performance is great on this card and actually makes me want to get one and start using ray tracing!

Still though, my issue is the price point as its pretty high for what it is. I will be curious where the RTX 4080 sits compared to this and when the RTX 4080ti comes out to close that gap.

Also that cooler... Geez that thing is massive! I mean, good grief it performs well but that card has to be the biggest one I have seen. At least if you don't include the crazy aftermarket weird cards that have been made in the past. Though to be fair even the crazy dual GPU cards were not that big LOL.

 

[codex5600x]

Wow,very good improvements, but is so expensive

I think amd will not have eny chances

 

[Space Lynx]

from techspot

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 Review

This is our first look at Nvidia's new flagship GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card. We'll find out all you need to know about this next-gen GPU, most...

www.techspot.com

Honestly. I concede, the 4090 and DLSS3 is impressive. If more and more games can get DLSS3... I mean, this is it, this may be the last gpu anyone needs for like 10 years. I honestly think the price is justified for this reason alone, we are reaching a point of no return... games may get more demanding sure, but I think that is more of a thing of the past, take Unreal Engine 5 for example, its gorgeous and really is not that taxing... engines are getting better and better... combine that FSR 2.0 games and DLSS3 games... the 4090 is very valuable card all things considered.

 

[PapaTaipei]

Less than 15% improvements vs 3090ti on 1080p and if you don't care about that useless RT bs. Amazing! So much power draw and wasted transistors on RT and tensor cores... Btw the article would attract more ppl if it included CSGO and Overwatch 2.

Amazing to see this GPU with 78 BILLION transistors has less FPS vs a 3080 (less than 28b transistors) on some games that do not use RT and on 1080p all the while using up to 600 WATTS!!! This has to be a new record of stupidity.

 

[mrpaco]

from techspot

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 Review

This is our first look at Nvidia's new flagship GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card. We'll find out all you need to know about this next-gen GPU, most...

www.techspot.com

Honestly. I concede, the 4090 and DLSS3 is impressive. If more and more games can get DLSS3... I mean, this is it, this may be the last gpu anyone needs for like 10 years. I honestly think the price is justified for this reason alone, we are reaching a point of no return... games may get more demanding sure, but I think that is more of a thing of the past, take Unreal Engine 5 for example, its gorgeous and really is not that taxing... engines are getting better and better... combine that FSR 2.0 games and DLSS3 games... the 4090 is very valuable card all things considered.

specially if you like shit visual quality, blurry image and getting artifacts everywhere.

pretty amazing technology is dlss for that.

 

[LFaWolf]

Isn't that supposed to be the 4090 Ti?

Sure, but it is not out yet, is it?

 

[Nordic]

What was the power used with the 600w overclock? I am also curious how bad the performance per watt is at 600w.