What's your latest tech purchase?

[The red spirit]

That's some upgrade from an rx6600.....

More like downgrade, unless you count being potential fire hazard as an upgrade, then more power to you.

 

[P4-630]

unless you count being potential fire hazard as an upgrade

Well if you have seen his system specs: "Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w"..... he should be fine.

Or do I smell a little jealousy....

 

[The red spirit]

Well if you have seen his system specs: "Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w"..... he should be fine.

Or do I smell a little jealousy....

That's not a problem, problem is that crappy connector on card, which was rated for only 20 times of connecting with many other bending limitations and general flimsiness.

 

[Calmmo]

I had a 3080 i sold this summer, I suspect the seasonic had a much harder time dealing with it's 2 to 3x powerspikes than it will with this card's ~1.5x spikes.
I liked the RX6600, it will be my 2ndary system GPU, and i generally like AMD's driver menu layout and features far more than Nvidia's.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'll see your five Noctuas and I raise you nine Gentle Typhoons:
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Why so many?

Originally they were listed for 34 PLN, roughly $7, that's with 23% VAT. Then I got 5 more for something around 30 PLN a piece. At the same time they were listed at amazon US for something around $20-25 and eu for €20+.

Now they are listed starting from 88 PLN, with some stores listing them at 118 PLN.

Easily the better buy.

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and the all important size comparison with the rx 6600

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You got one of the good ones. I think they could have done better with the vents on the backplate, but overall, the Zotac cards look good and stylish!

 

[AusWolf]

Not a purchase yet, but a part of my brain keeps whispering: "Give in to your anger and fulfil your destiny on the dark side." What do I do, master?

 

[Ahhzz]

It begins,.... *sigh* just wish it was mine

 

[The red spirit]

What do I do, master?

You buy GT 710 for lolz

 

[AusWolf]

You buy GT 710 for lolz

Already done that.

 

[The red spirit]

@P4-630

Aren't you guys actually concerned about this:

This flaw alone makes anything RTX with that POS connector "won't touch it for free" stuff.

Already done that.

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There are many variants of GT 710. I think yours is Kepler with 192 cores and 2GB DDR3, but there is Fermi variant with 1GB DDR3 memory on even narrower bus, there is PCIe X1 version, I think there even was PCI version of GT 710 and there is the beastly Kepler variant with higher clock and 2GB GDDR5 and there is also a loser Kepler variants with just 32 bit bus and GDDR5 memory. I honestly don't even know which is the slowest version is that Fermi version or loser 32 bit Kepler version, or maybe 64 bit Kepler with DDR3. Anyway, the diversity of this potato is astounding. If that's still too high end for you, there is the potatoest of them all, the GT 705, but good luck ever finding it, as it was rather rare OEM only potato. Oh and another fun fact is that some GT 720 versions are also slower than some GT 710 versions. And there was one really slow Fermi version of GT 730, which was slower than faster GT 710s.

 

[AusWolf]

There are many variants of GT 710. I think yours is Kepler with 192 cores and 2GB DDR3, but there is Fermi variant with 1GB DDR3 memory on even narrower bus, there is PCIe X1 version, I think there even was PCI version of GT 710 and there is the beastly Kepler variant with higher clock and 2GB GDDR5 and there is also a loser Kepler variants with just 32 bit bus and GDDR5 memory. I honestly don't even know which is the slowest version is that Fermi version or loser 32 bit Kepler version, or maybe 64 bit Kepler with DDR3. Anyway, the diversity of this potato is astounding. If that's still too high end for you, there is the potatoest of them all, the GT 705, but good luck ever finding it, as it was rather rare OEM only potato. Oh and another fun fact is that some GT 720 versions are also slower than some GT 710 versions. And there was one really slow Fermi version of GT 730, which was slower than faster GT 710s.

This one is a 192-core Kepler with 1 GB DDR3. It's potato enough already, but look how innocent it looks with that tiny physical x8 connector!

But back to the topic at hand... to buy or not to buy - that is the question.

 

[P4-630]

Aren't you guys actually concerned about this:

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[AusWolf]

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Power (current) isn't the biggest issue as far as I know. The connector is rated for only a few dozen connects/disconnects, which may be a problem if you like tinkering with your PC.

 

[The red spirit]

This one is a 192-core Kepler with 1 GB DDR3. It's potato enough already, but look how innocent it looks with that tiny physical x8 connector!

But back to the topic at hand... to buy or not to buy - that is the question.

You can buy anything, as long as it is GT 710 MUHAHA. And you can SLI GT 710s... well with a hack of course, but you can.

 

[P4-630]

The connector is rated for only a few dozen connects/disconnects, which may be a problem if you like tinkering with your PC.

I know but I just didn't read @W1zzard complaining about it in the reviews.....

 

[The red spirit]

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JayZ says that connector is only able to handle 20 inserts, that's because of poor pin design and also on top of that common bending on cables can be too much with those adapters and cause shorting. Therefore a fire hazard, this time not exaggerating this statement at all. On top of that, undervolting is also broken:

Which makes connector problem less fixable. By all accounts this is probably the most incompetent nVidia release since FX series. Even Thermi (Fermi) was sort of okay. You get potential fire harzard, huge ass card that fits nowhere, higher power draw than even R9 295 X2 (which BTW didn't have any stupid power connector problems and didn't need some moronic new standard either), a card that can't UV. It's just a pile of bad decisions and truly a card I genuinely think shouldn't exist. It's truly FX 5950 equivalent of modern era, although with different pile of flaws. And no I'm not jealous of this thing, more like absolutely shocked at ignorance of all the flaws of this pile of trash and utter ignorance of their severity. I find it really stupid how TPU is anal about power supplies and preach everywhere that quality matters, but a literal firecracker of graphics card is totally okay. That's mental.

 

[P4-630]

JayZ says that connector is only able to handle 20 inserts, that's because of poor pin design and also on top of that common bending on cables can be too much with those adapters and cause shorting. Therefore a fire hazard, this time not exaggerating this statement at all.

Ok, is there any proof of fire/melting from using this included adapter more then 20 times?

 

[Deleted member 223428]

JayZ says that connector is only able to handle 20 inserts, that's because of poor pin design and also on top of that common bending on cables can be too much with those adapters and cause shorting. Therefore a fire hazard, this time not exaggerating this statement at all. On top of that, undervolting is also broken:

Which makes connector problem less fixable. By all accounts this is probably the most incompetent nVidia release since FX series. Even Thermi (Fermi) was sort of okay. You get potential fire harzard, huge ass card that fits nowhere, higher power draw than even R9 295 X2 (which BTW didn't have any stupid power connector problems and didn't need some moronic new standard either), a card that can't UV. It's just a pile of bad decisions and truly a card I genuinely think shouldn't exist. It's truly FX 5950 equivalent of modern era, although with different pile of flaws. And no I'm not jealous of this thing, more like absolutely shocked at ignorance of all the flaws of this pile of trash and utter ignorance of their severity. I find it really stupid how TPU is anal about power supplies and preach everywhere that quality matters, but a literal firecracker of graphics card is totally okay. That's mental.

From the Techspot review:

We should note that it was falsely reported that the 12VHPWR power connector could only survive 30 cycles (30 connect and disconnects), but that's not the case and the connector longevity will be similar to that of the 8-pin connectors, which is to say you're never going to wear one out.

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That dude's opinion isn't worth 2 cents.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

@P4-630

Aren't you guys actually concerned about this:

This flaw alone makes anything RTX with that POS connector "won't touch it for free" stuff.


There are many variants of GT 710. I think yours is Kepler with 192 cores and 2GB DDR3, but there is Fermi variant with 1GB DDR3 memory on even narrower bus, there is PCIe X1 version, I think there even was PCI version of GT 710 and there is the beastly Kepler variant with higher clock and 2GB GDDR5 and there is also a loser Kepler variants with just 32 bit bus and GDDR5 memory. I honestly don't even know which is the slowest version is that Fermi version or loser 32 bit Kepler version, or maybe 64 bit Kepler with DDR3. Anyway, the diversity of this potato is astounding. If that's still too high end for you, there is the potatoest of them all, the GT 705, but good luck ever finding it, as it was rather rare OEM only potato. Oh and another fun fact is that some GT 720 versions are also slower than some GT 710 versions. And there was one really slow Fermi version of GT 730, which was slower than faster GT 710s.

Jay's kind of a drama llama sometimes. He leans real hard on the 30-insertion limit in that video, but the "classic" PCIe connectors have the same spec (bottom of P.2). He's on point about connector strain, though. That's more likely to be an issue.

 

[The red spirit]

Ok, is there any proof of fire/melting from using this included adapter more then 20 times?

No, but is RTX 4090 also actually launched, the answer is also no. So far it's a paper launch. But anyway, it's a concerning development, which absolutely must be tested as it could turn RTX 4xxx cards into Galaxy S7 kind of bomb.

Jay's kind of a drama llama sometimes. He leans real hard on the 30-insertion limit in that video, but the "classic" PCIe connectors have the same spec (bottom of P.2). He's on point about connector strain, though. That's more likely to be an issue.

That same classical 6 or 8 pin connector was already melting or catching on fire with RTX 3090 sometimes.

 

[P4-630]

No, but is RTX 4090 also actually launched, the answer is also no. So far it's a paper launch. But anyway, it's a concerning development, which absolutely must be tested as it could turn RTX 4xxx cards into Galaxy S7 kind of bomb.

I don't think nvidia would have designed/used this new connector with adapter method if they knew it could cause melting or fire after 20/30 reconnects.....

 

[phill]

Well if you have seen his system specs: "Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w"..... he should be fine.

Or do I smell a little jealousy....

No that's just the PSU working hard to power the beast of a card

Not a purchase yet, but a part of my brain keeps whispering: "Give in to your anger and fulfil your destiny on the dark side." What do I do, master?


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I'd personally hold off on the GPU and I'm not a complete fan of Corsair as such, the only thing I question is the motherboard.. What sort of case are you using? Will it work in an ATX?

 

[The red spirit]

I don't think nvidia would have designed/used this new connector with adapter method if they knew it could cause melting or fire after 20/30 reconnects.....

Well RTX 3090 happened, also dying RTX 3090 in Amazon's game happened. nVidia also had many problems with their highest end cards for decades. I mean GTX 480 was overheating badly, nVidia card in Macbooks broke solder joints from heat, RTX 2080 Ti had high first month usage failure rate. There were so many failures with their highest end, hottest running cards for decades. Many of which they eventually admitted and sometimes were sued to admit. I really don't think that I should put that much trust in this brand. Considering that their hardware testing is extremely limited as they don't make most cards either and their founders cards are most likely made by someone else anyway. It might be RTX 4xxx series wide problem if that adapter thingy is just flimsy or it could be RTX 4090 problem, because it draws a lot of power. Either way, you have been warned.

 

[AusWolf]

I'd personally hold off on the GPU and I'm not a complete fan of Corsair as such, the only thing I question is the motherboard.. What sort of case are you using? Will it work in an ATX?

Holding off on the GPU makes sense, although I can always sell it later. I don't really need an upgrade, I'm just curious. I only chose Corsair RAM because it's less "gamery" than other brands this time around. GSkill doesn't seem too bad, either, but it's rare. Motherboard for me is micro-ATX only (case in my specs). Or maybe mini-ITX, but they don't seem to be any cheaper than this. I've had several Asus TUF boards in the last couple of years, and I've been happy with all of them. Besides, this one is expensive enough, I don't really want to spend more on features I'll never use.

 

[The red spirit]

I don't really need an upgrade, I'm just curious.

I don't really want to spend more on features I'll never use.

I think I'm seeing a bit of inconsistency here. I get the vibes that you don't want to really buy all this stuff, but there's some itch to do so anyway. Everyone hates it at TPU, but perhaps rent out what you want for week to play with and see what happens. I think that your frequent hardware switching is taking a toll on you.