Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
I'd like to see the AIO's with
System Name | Shizuka |
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Processor | Intel Core i5 10400F |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B460M Aorus Pro |
Cooling | Scythe Choten |
Memory | 2x8GB G.Skill Aegis 2666 MHz |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Red Dragon V2 RX 580 8GB ~100 watts in Wattman |
Storage | 512GB WD Blue + 256GB WD Green + 4TH Toshiba X300 |
Display(s) | BenQ BL2420PT |
Case | Cooler Master Silencio S400 |
Audio Device(s) | Topping D10 + AIWA NSX-V70 |
Power Supply | Chieftec A90 550W (GDP-550C) |
Mouse | Steel Series Rival 100 |
Keyboard | Hama SL 570 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise |
And amped up too. FX 9590 officially had 225 watt TDP, while in reality it sucked ~280-290 watts, meanwhile i9 now sucks a bit over 300 watts. I have zero idea how much power R9 295x2 sucked, but liekly not 500 watts, a bit less, but imagine what RTX 4090 x2 could suck and enterprise GPUs now went from 300 watts to 700 watts.Its funny how things that were old come back in fashion again
Rigs that can pull 800w+ at the wall might be commonplace again.
I think absolute worst thing you could build was something like dual socket overclocked Xeons Sandy-Hasswell era, all RAM slots filled, likely 16, 4 SATA SSDs in RAID 0, 2 R9 295x2s in CrossFire, lots of HDDs, water cooling and tons of fans. You need two PSUs for that. I will shut up now, mister Leatherjacket will hear us...The last time I was able to pull 800w at the wall was with X5690 and GTX 570 SLi all running F@H.
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System Name | ATHENA |
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Processor | AMD 7950X |
Motherboard | ASUS Crosshair X670E Extreme |
Cooling | ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360, 13 x Lian Li P28 |
Memory | 2x32GB Trident Z RGB 6000Mhz CL30 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS 4090 STRIX |
Storage | 3 x Kingston Fury 4TB, 4 x Samsung 870 QVO |
Display(s) | Acer X38S, Wacom Cintiq Pro 15 |
Case | Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO |
Audio Device(s) | Topping DX9, Fluid FPX7 Fader Pro, Beyerdynamic T1 G2, Beyerdynamic MMX300 |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME TX-1600 |
Mouse | Xtrfy MZ1 - Zy' Rail, Logitech MX Vertical, Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915 TKL |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 + Universal Blue |
Processor | Ryzen 9 3900x |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600CL16 |
Video Card(s) | 3060Ti FE 0.9v |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, 2x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ProArt PA278QV |
Case | be quiet! Pure Base 500 |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier R1850DB |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III 650W |
Mouse | A4Tech X-748K |
Keyboard | Logitech K300 |
Software | Win 10 Pro 64bit |
Strange that when it was the opposite effect for DeBauer and JayZ.PCWorld has some ECO mode tests. It looks like Intel is losing way more performance when you limit the watts, i.e. 105W 7950X (10% loss) vs 105W 13900K (25% loss), but the actual measured system power consumption is ~40W lower on the 13900K.
I guess AMD's ECO modes don't really limit the TDP to 105W or 65W (that is the case with my 3900X as well, as when set to 95W ECO mode with -0.1c, the CPU is still using ~124W at full load, while in normal more with -0.1v it's using 128W).
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System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Alphacool has you covered, they make pretty much exactly that.I would like to see an AIO that is basically a small custom loop where you have a quality rad and pump that has real capacity and can be refilled. I know you can buy kits but who wants to spend 500 to cool a component?
Alphacool AIOs are basically exactly that, a pre-assembled custom loop.I would like to see an AIO that is basically a small custom loop where you have a quality rad and pump that has real capacity and can be refilled. I know you can buy kits but who wants to spend 500 to cool a component?
System Name | The beast and the little runt. |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
ROLF. they sure does have me covered for heating and gaming i see.Nvidia got you covered, fam!
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I will deffently hit 1 KW. Just with 4090 with oc and my 5950X with PBO in games can peak at 800 watt. Adding 13900K with will have at least 100 watt over 5950X with PBO. 1 KW is well with in reach. Else my mini-itx system can help hit 1 KW with ease. With bofh system at peak. I think i can now pull more what my 1200 Watt PSU can deliver in the long run. Maybe for peak it can go, but for constant load, i think there is risk of overload. Hence why i now needs to be careful when bofh system runs a full tilt at trhe same time.I mean, to be fair, 300W is still a pretty weak space heater. 750W together with that GPU and you're getting somewhere though! OC both and you'd probably hit 1kW.
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Only if that PSU is pretty terrible quality. ATX (electrical, not form factor) PSUs are rated for continuous output, not peak. A 1200W PSU, given adequate cooling, should be able to deliver 1200W output constantly until its MTBF (or thereabouts). Most can deliver noticeably more than their rating (OCP is often +20-30%), but at that point you're stressing components in a way that will promote premature failure. Of course a less stressed PSU will last longer, that's a given, but we're long past the era of garbage PSUs that can only reach their rated power for a fraction of a second before blowing up.With bofh system at peak. I think i can now pull more what my 1200 Watt PSU can deliver in the long run. Maybe for peak it can go, but for constant load, i think there is risk of overload. Hence why i now needs to be careful when bofh system runs a full tilt at trhe same time.
System Name | The beast and the little runt. |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
My PSU should be of good quality. It´s a phanteks revolt x 1200. The only PSU i know of that can power two systems at once, hence why i chose this PSU.Only if that PSU is pretty terrible quality. ATX (electrical, not form factor) PSUs are rated for continuous output, not peak. A 1200W PSU, given adequate cooling, should be able to deliver 1200W output constantly until its MTBF (or thereabouts). Most can deliver noticeably more than their rating (OCP is often +20-30%), but at that point you're stressing components in a way that will promote premature failure. Of course a less stressed PSU will last longer, that's a given, but we're long past the era of garbage PSUs that can only reach their rated power for a fraction of a second before blowing up.
Efficiency goes into the drain at max power. The rated power is the maximum power, not the nominal one.Only if that PSU is pretty terrible quality. ATX (electrical, not form factor) PSUs are rated for continuous output, not peak. A 1200W PSU, given adequate cooling, should be able to deliver 1200W output constantly until its MTBF (or thereabouts). Most can deliver noticeably more than their rating (OCP is often +20-30%), but at that point you're stressing components in a way that will promote premature failure. Of course a less stressed PSU will last longer, that's a given, but we're long past the era of garbage PSUs that can only reach their rated power for a fraction of a second before blowing up.
The web is full of such memes, most of which are top kek! I was afraid that I might get banned if I post them all.ROLF. they sure does have me covered for heating and gaming i see.
System Name | 4K-gaming |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 50 |
Memory | 48GB Kingston DDR4-3200C16 |
Video Card(s) | Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB |
Storage | ~3TB SSDs + 3TB external HDDs |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow White |
Audio Device(s) | Asus TUF H3 Wireless |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 + Asus TUF P1 mousepad |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | It runs Crysis |
Haha, I actually do have a 1366 and the bigger 775 stock coolers, they were actually somewhat usable unlike the modern slim ones.Don't worry Lenne, Intel has you covered
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And what a great timing as prices of electricity has skyrocketed.Its funny how things that were old come back in fashion again
Rigs that can pull 800w+ at the wall might be commonplace again.
The last time I was able to pull 800w at the wall was with X5690 and GTX 570 SLi all running F@H.
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I agree. Both 13900K and 7950X efficiency after underclock, tuning and power limiting is about the same, at for example both limited to 90 watts... according to one source. Other sources tell a completely different story (for example Hardware Unboxed), that the 7950X is much more efficient than the 13900K.stop spreading BS info from hub. you have techpowerup...efficiency of 13900K is very good, similar to 7950x at lower tdps.
HW acknowledge that his chart it's wrong, don't insist on thisOther sources tell a completely different story (for example Hardware Unboxed), that the 7950X is much more efficient than the 13900K.
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
It's lower than at lower outputs, yes, but down the drain? No. Most modern PSU designs lose a few percentage points of efficiency between peak efficiency and 100% load.Efficiency goes into the drain at max power.
No, rated power is peak continuous output.The rated power is the maximum power, not the nominal one.
... and a PSU rated for that output thus needs components capable of handling that output. Sufficient cooling to keep them operating within spec is obviously a necessity, but these components are rated for sustained loads.Plus, 1200W is a SERIOUS power. Select few components can withstand 24/7 work under such loads, let alone for years.
I remember overclocking Core 2 Duo from 1.8 to 3 GHz. Now we are overclocking 5.8 to 6.0 GHz? Doesn't seem impressive to me.
I agree. Both 13900K and 7950X efficiency after underclock, tuning and power limiting is about the same, at for example both limited to 90 watts... according to one source. Other sources tell a completely different story (for example Hardware Unboxed), that the 7950X is much more efficient than the 13900K.
That's available wattage. The component will just use what it needs from that. I think that's what you mean?... and a PSU rated for that output thus needs components capable of handling that output.
Few % you say? It's more like 5% between Platinum and Silver ratings. Try this difference for a compounding interest on your mortgage. Or tell how it will reflect the power bill for 24/7/365?It's lower than at lower outputs, yes, but down the drain? No. Most modern PSU designs lose a few percentage points of efficiency between peak efficiency and 100% load.
No, rated power is peak continuous output.
... and a PSU rated for that output thus needs components capable of handling that output. Sufficient cooling to keep them operating within spec is obviously a necessity, but these components are rated for sustained loads.
System Name | Legion |
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Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
Auto OC to 6GHz is going to be hillarious.
I wonder how many people will RMA their boards because their socket melted.
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You see how it flatlines past 300W and adding more power results in next to nothing? Yeah reaching 6GHz is going to be a 500W job, most likely.
So, if you extrapolate the CB R23 results, a 6GHz OC might get the 13900K 40,750 points. Meanwhile, a 7950X is getting 94% at likely just one third the power draw. It may no longer be the fastest consumer CPU, but the 7950X sure as hell is a better CPU for consumers. For a 6GHz 13900K you're going to need a custom loop with two large radiators, a high-flow CPU block, oversized tubing throughout, and a powerful pump, if not two pumps in series. Suddenly the cost of the CPU and motherboard are irrelevant because you need to spend $1500 and a few days of your time on the cooling alone.