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[Mussels]

There are some single rank 16GB sticks out there. This can be good if you want to run 4 of them, but can have a performance impact if you only have 2.

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-3600MHz-PC4-28800-288-Pin/dp/B07Z4NTYDM/

First ones i'm aware of - good to know they exist, but yeah could be a performance issue if you dont want 64GB

 

[Space Lynx]

First ones i'm aware of - good to know they exist, but yeah could be a performance issue if you dont want 64GB

@ir_cow helped me is why I deleted my post. he explained it all to me, as well as confirming @Super Firm Tofu said in regards to there being single ranked 16gb sticks. I got it sorted, and the new sticks of ram I just purchased for my mobo I got today are QVL for that mobo and ircow confirmed for me they are dual ranked. so all is well on my end. didn't want to waste anyone elses time and didn't think anyone would see my post as I just made it... lol

thank you for helping though, it is appreciated. I am all done now... just waiting for RDNA3 now... if you have any powers in helping me beat the bots and third party sellers so that I can snag a RDNA3 on launch day for my new gaming rig... I would be much obliged...

 

[Mussels]

It's all good - just keep in mind two ranks total is 5-15% performance loss in some applications and games, four ranks is a big deal

four may clock less, but it's totally worth it.

 

[Space Lynx]

It's all good - just keep in mind two ranks total is 5-15% performance loss in some applications and games, four ranks is a big deal

four may clock less, but it's totally worth it.

2x16gb sticks, confirmed to be dual rank - means I am four rank though right?

also, this terminology is starting to wear on me, could you imagine us sitting at a pub and i tell you loudly over a drink what I just said. bloody hell, lmao

 

[Mussels]

2x16gb sticks, confirmed to be dual rank - means I am four rank though right?

also, this terminology is starting to wear on me, could you imagine us sitting at a pub and i tell you loudly over a drink what I just said. bloody hell, lmao

yup 2+2 = 4

Which is how many beers you've had

 

[trickson]

yup 2+2 = 4

Which is how many beers you've had

In my case Bong hits...

 

[Mussels]

Its was a little to long to read but thank you for the information

I have trouble with that, as I feel that when you condense things down to the simplified versions critical information gets lost

And if you seperate things too much, then you don't have a single information source to look at

 

[Darkleoco]

Hey all been a couple years since I posted on here and had a lot happen in my life but looking to jump a bit back into the PC world while my wife games on the PS5 and dont want to feel too left out. Trying to find some help on upgrading my hardware as its been 12 years since I did a full build with virtually no alterations in the interim. My system specs should be right roughly and I'm not opposed to piecing stuff together over a year or more. Big concerns are whether or not my Corsair AX1200 needs replacing or should continue to serve me fine and general hardware recommendations to put me on par with the performance I was receiving when this was a fresh build in 2011 as I have no idea how to accurately compare relative performance anymore with how much things have advanced.

TLDR; System specs roughly correct need hardware recommendations for translating the comparative performance of this computer in 2011 to current times.

 

[Mussels]

Big concerns are whether or not my Corsair AX1200

That things still considered top tier. Only possible issues are with GPU's that need the new 12 pin connector, but they all come with the GPU.
I'd buy a quality cable sold by Corsair for that exact PSU, to avoid the adaptor.


Anything out there from either camp exceeds the performance you had on that setup back in the day. Quickest summary would be:

1: CPU's single threaded performance controls your "lows" - the performance your system drops to.
Go to TPU's latest CPU review, find the 0.1% lows and you get an idea where its smart to run your framerates at.
These values don't change with graphics settings or resolution. The reason the 4K results are lower, is the RTX4090 is the limiting factor here.

Just to reiterate my point, these are the bottoms of those graphs. All of them are GPU limited at ultra settings on 4K even with a 4090.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown - Minimum FPS / RTX 4090 | TechPowerUp


2. Buy a monitor with a refresh rate lower than your CPUs 0.1% lows.
Use Freesync or Gsync if you don't want stutter or tearing.
Use an FPS cap, either 2FPS under your refresh rate or at exactly half your refresh rate. No micro stutter, no tearing.
Only the extremely expensive top of the line Gsync ultimate displays avoid this issue, it's always been there it's just more obvious with faster CPUs.

3. Buy a GPU that can handle your chosen refresh rate and resolution, lower settings in games it can't keep up. FSR and DLSS help massively with this and are NOT used in the above graphs where the 4090 is the limit.

 

[Darkleoco]

That things still considered top tier. Only possible issues are with GPU's that need the new 12 pin connector, but they all come with the GPU.
I'd buy a quality cable sold by Corsair for that exact PSU, to avoid the adaptor.


Anything out there from either camp exceeds the performance you had on that setup back in the day. Quickest summary would be:

1: CPU's single threaded performance controls your "lows" - the performance your system drops to.
Go to TPU's latest CPU review, find the 0.1% lows and you get an idea where its smart to run your framerates at.
These values don't change with graphics settings or resolution. The reason the 4K results are lower, is the RTX4090 is the limiting factor here.
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Just to reiterate my point, these are the bottoms of those graphs. All of them are GPU limited at ultra settings on 4K even with a 4090.
View attachment 326574
Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown - Minimum FPS / RTX 4090 | TechPowerUp


2. Buy a monitor with a refresh rate lower than your CPUs 0.1% lows.
Use Freesync or Gsync if you don't want stutter or tearing.
Use an FPS cap, either 2FPS under your refresh rate or at exactly half your refresh rate. No micro stutter, no tearing.
Only the extremely expensive top of the line Gsync ultimate displays avoid this issue, it's always been there it's just more obvious with faster CPUs.

3. Buy a GPU that can handle your chosen refresh rate and resolution, lower settings in games it can't keep up. FSR and DLSS help massively with this and are NOT used in the above graphs where the 4090 is the limit.

Appreciate the reply! Found a solid deal at Best Buy for $170 off the 12700K and with the newest generations averaging only 14% improvements over that then with some OC it should be good enough for years to come. Just to clarify though are you saying my 12 year old AX1200 isn't something I should be worrying about replacing? I know I spared little expense back in the day but my understanding at the time was also somewhat limited and I wouldn't want this thing to grenade a new system.

 

[Mussels]

Appreciate the reply! Found a solid deal at Best Buy for $170 off the 12700K and with the newest generations averaging only 14% improvements over that then with some OC it should be good enough for years to come. Just to clarify though are you saying my 12 year old AX1200 isn't something I should be worrying about replacing? I know I spared little expense back in the day but my understanding at the time was also somewhat limited and I wouldn't want this thing to grenade a new system.

The 12700k's only issue is the power.
If you don't unlock the power limit from 125W, it risks slowing down on you.
If you do unlock it, you need far more powerful cooling to keep up.

The PSU should be fine.