Do you use Linux?

[lexluthermiester]

I've set up the OS myself and hold the keys to the admin account -> it is Linux
I bought it with the OS preinstalled and locked down -> it isn't Linux

That's your personal perspective and while it might be true for you personally, but that is not what a professional viewpoint is based on.

 

[Lei]

My explanation of why some people think Android is not Linux.

I've set up the OS myself and hold the keys to the admin account -> it is Linux
I bought it with the OS preinstalled and locked down -> it isn't Linux

Why Huawei can't use android?
if it's linux, if it's opensource, then how can one big fat guy say others shouldn't use it?

 

[R-T-B]

Why Huawei can't use android?
if it's linux, if it's opensource, then how can one big fat guy say others shouldn't use it?

They can use it. They can't use any of the propietary bits that make it "google" though (The play store etc)

 

[argon]

I used to play on PC with my old build (i5-4690k+r9-290x) I had the 290x from the beginning back in 2014 (before a 6950) then sold it for buying ps5, lucky I got it at launch and not from scalper, I like console gaming its so easy and relaxing but I still use m/k on fps games.
Recently I'm getting again into pc, I need a pc in my house for some things even if smartphone+console was ok, but so, few month ago I cannot stand anymore and I bought a Pentium Alder Lake dual core g6900 for 50€ also bought a 200€ case but its another story xD For gaming still using my ps5 so I didn't need Windows anymore, Firstly I got Debian but lately I had a lot of problems and the lack of AUR wasn't good. So I got Arch Linux, imho the best distro also it got installed in 10minutes with archinstall I use openbox +tint2 its my way to go. When I was young I used to install linux on my pc, It was hard but my dreams back in the days was arch linux you didn't had "archinstall" in that and it was hard as hell it was 2008/2009 I still have pages of me writing down the all arch wiki on paper (i didn't had a good smartphone for sure) and openbox was the way to go. more lately more the years passed I got into halo2 and Ut back in the day with friends so I had to use Windows and didn't got back to use linux Anymore till this summer.
TLDR yes i use arch linux on my main pc because I don't game anymore on pc but use PS5

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I use Linux on the media pc in the living room. The main pc has two spectate drives, one Linux and one windows, because MS keeps royally screwing with UEFI boot partitions…

I swear if someone ever gets EAC working on proton without game dev input I’m ditching windows 11.

CLI is the better idea, for those cases when you absolutely cannot get the graphics subsystem up at all. From the CLI, you can load drivers and even start X, if needed. But I've never needed that, whenever I went into safe mode, all I needed was to trigger some package repair or reinstall something. A GUI wasn't really needed.

Yeah, it feels cluttery and annoying. Until you need that other kernel

every time I hear this argument, I can feel the neckbeard hairs growing.

yes, the CLI is powerful. If that works for you, fantastic. But most people are not going to memorize CLI commands and package names for if their system goes horribly wrong, the whole point of windows safe mode is that a normal end user can fix it without needing to type war and peace into thei CLI to make it work.

It’s one of those things that sets windows and Mac OS X apart from Linux, and it flies right in the face of “well you don’t need to memorize CLI to use Linux” arguments.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Why Huawei can't use android?
if it's linux, if it's opensource, then how can one big fat guy say others shouldn't use it?

They can use AOSP. They just can't use Google Services.

They can use it. They can't use any of the propietary bits that make it "google" though (The play store etc)

Oops.. I replied before reading this.. my bad..

I use Linux on the media pc in the living room.

Really? XBMC? Or something else?(No offense was intended here, only curious.)

 

[Aquinus]

Just a small hint, but back when I was using it, Kubuntu was about the worst KDE distro. Neon (also Ubuntu based, albeit paired with up-to-date Qt and KDE is miles better).

I just needed something that works, it doesn't have to be the best. All my daughter really uses on it is a web browser. She probably could have gotten away with a chromebook, but I already had a decent low-power laptop laying around that she could use and it feels a bit more friendly than Gnome.

 

[cvaldes]

Really? XBMC? Or something else?

XBMC has been known as Kodi since 2014 when the name changed.

Kodi is the user-facing media box application. While it can run on Linux systems Kodi itself has nothing to do with Linux as it runs on a variety of platforms (Xbox, Windows PC, Macs, various iDevices, FreeBSD, etc.). Remember that the original XBMC project was for Xbox (custom Pentium III running custom Windows NT). Linux support came later.

The operating system that I am running Kodi on is LibreELEC which is a great OS choice if you don't want to run anything but Kodi and you want to keep Linux at an arm's distance and not have to look at it.

LibreELEC is technically Linux (as in it runs the Linux kernel) but it's not a full fledged distribution. It's really an embedded device operating system like the Linux that runs my DSL router and my Super NES Classic. Gas pump POS terminals, et cetera. There is very limited functionality in LibreELEC beyond its support for Kodi and associated add-ons. Even some very common terminal commands like 'history' are missing from LibreELEC.

The pollster didn't include a poll choice that accommodates these embedded device situations. In my house there's a Roku and unused Chromecast (2nd gen) which might have Linux kernels. Not sure what my MFP (HP DeskJet printer) runs. My LG TV uses webOS which is also technically Linux but I don't think of myself as "running Linux" when I turn it on.

Despite the fact that I use devices every day that have Linux kernels, I don't feel like I am "running Linux" because I don't have to interact with it as a desktop operating system, something I'd like to keep. I boot Raspbian twice a year to check for Raspberry Pi 4's firmware updates and that's more than enough contact with desktop Linux for me.

 

[theFOoL]

So I see Kodi as Emby. Just saying. I switched to Emby from plex

 

[lexluthermiester]

XBMC has been known as Kodi since 2014 when the name changed.

I still call it XBMC. Old habit.

 

[cvaldes]

I still call it XBMC. Old habit.

That's fine but this is a Linux discussion and poll. There's no way for me or anyone else here to know whether or not you were aware the name changed eight years ago. And if some random reader decides to search for XBMC, they will soon learn that the name changed making your recommendation look possibly outdated.

Again, it's important to distinguish between the media center application and the operating system. XBMC/Kodi is not Linux.

It's just like Mozilla/Firefox isn't Linux either.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That's fine but this is a Linux discussion and poll. There's no way for me or anyone else here to know whether or not you were aware the name changed eight years ago. And if some random reader decides to search for XBMC, they will soon learn that the name changed making your recommendation look possibly outdated.

Again, it's important to distinguish between the media center application and the operating system. XBMC/Kodi is not Linux.

It's just like Mozilla/Firefox isn't Linux either.

Hmmm...

The creator of Linux disagrees with you. But whatever, carry on.

 

[cvaldes]

Well Linus isn't always right. The world isn't black and white and no one is right all of the time.

No matter what Mr. Torvalds says, XBMC/Kodi aren't Linux. And neither is Mozilla/Firefox.

Go look at the Kodi source code and see if you can find the Linux kernel code. Trust me, whoever is compiling Kodi for iOS isn't building a Linux kernel along with it. Hell, I doubt if Apple's App Store guardians would let a foreign OS kernel into the downloadable binary. It likely violates their App Store T&C.

We've already covered the origin of XBMC. Mozilla traces its lineage to NCSA Mosaic which first ran on proprietary Unixes back in the early Nineties. It too did not run on Linux at its start.

Again,

KODI ISN'T LINUX. IT'S A MEDIA PLAYER.

LibreELEC is Linux.

Sorry to disappoint you.

"Act accordingly."

 

[Solaris17]

We should be civil now

 

[cvaldes]

Kodi doesn't include a Linux kernel unless you download a Kodi-focused Linux build like LibreELEC or GeeXboX.

If you go to kodi.tv/download, those packages don't include the operating system.

Again, Kodi is not dependent on the Linux kernel nor does the Kodi source code include the Linux kernel. Remember that the Linux kernel by itself is not enough to provide full functionality for Kodi.

I think the main problem is that some people here don't understand fundamentally what an operating system actually is.

 

[bug]

I swear if someone ever gets EAC working on proton without game dev input I’m ditching windows 11.

every time I hear this argument, I can feel the neckbeard hairs growing.

yes, the CLI is powerful. If that works for you, fantastic. But most people are not going to memorize CLI commands and package names for if their system goes horribly wrong, the whole point of windows safe mode is that a normal end user can fix it without needing to type war and peace into thei CLI to make it work.

It’s one of those things that sets windows and Mac OS X apart from Linux, and it flies right in the face of “well you don’t need to memorize CLI to use Linux” arguments.

Well, you're arguing fewer users are able to use the CLI, whereas my argument was that the CLI can actually get you out of situations where a GUI won't start.

And yes, I'm fully aware in the user friendliness department Linux is the last of the three major operating systems.

 

[DrCR]

I’m actually gaming on Linux exclusively at the point. Steam plus disinterest in most modern era AAA games made it rather easy.

 

[mechtech]

Nope

I have tried and used Mint a long time ago probably 8+ years? With the way windows 11 is going, and more games getting Linux support and more legacy systems piling up, I have been thinking of putting Mint, or Ubuntu or Zorin OS lite on some of them though.

Anyone here try/use Zorin Pro OS??

 

[DrCR]

Nope

I have tried and used Mint a long time ago probably 8+ years? With the way windows 11 is going, and more games getting Linux support and more legacy systems piling up, I have been thinking of putting Mint, or Ubuntu or Zorin OS lite on some of them though.

Anyone here try/use Zorin Pro OS??

I’m the opposite. WinOS at work but Linux at home for quite a number of years now. After lots of distro hopping (which I’d recommend as there’s a distro out there that will seem spot on to your taste), I’d recommend on one partition going with stock Ubuntu for Steam et al., as you can get whatever hand holding you’d ever want with it. That’s what I do for gaming, and then spend 99% of my non-gaming time in a different distro.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

desktop: FreeBSD
netbook: MX Linux (XFCE)
old laptop: Void Linux
VirtualBox VM's on FreeBSD: MX Linux (Fluxbox) and Alpine Linux (XFCE)

99% of the time I use my desktop but sporadically I also use Linux.

 

[lexluthermiester]

desktop: FreeBSD
netbook: MX Linux (XFCE)
old laptop: Void Linux
VirtualBox VM's on FreeBSD: MX Linux (Fluxbox) and Alpine Linux (XFCE)

99% of the time I use my desktop but sporadically I also use Linux.

FreeBSD as a desktop OS! That's kinda hardcore..

 

[ThrashZone]

FreeBSD as a desktop OS! That's kinda hardcore..

Hi,
He's a rebel

 

[R-T-B]

Hi,
He's a rebel

FreeBSD is actually less rebel and more like old school unix mainline hardcore compile your shit from source type stuff, but sure. I think a rebel would use something goofy like one of those oddball OS/2 distros that can boot on modern hardware. Why? Who knows. Because rebel.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

FreeBSD is actually less rebel and more like old school unix mainline hardcore compile your shit from source type stuff, but sure. I think a rebel would use something goofy like one of those oddball OS/2 distros that can boot on modern hardware. Why? Who knows. Because rebel.

I've hardly ever compiled anything, except for 'automatic compilations' that happen when installing default packages.
I used to use Arch and therefore also the AUR and then I always lost a lot more time because of the AUR packages.

What I mean is that FreeBSD has more default packages than the popular Arch:

Arch Linux - Package Search

archlinux.org

13597 matching packages found

FreshPorts -- The Place For Ports - Most recent commits

Most recent commits

www.freshports.org

Port count 57482

 

[Vario]

I have been using it more now to run some scientific computing software on a lab computer, but I am not fluent in it yet.