People living in the conditions you are describing can't usually afford a 3090.I can only imagine people are living in poorly insulated massive houses in cold climates or something
People living in the conditions you are describing can't usually afford a 3090.I can only imagine people are living in poorly insulated massive houses in cold climates or something
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I'm a disabled single dad and i could afford one.People living in the conditions you are describing can't usually afford a 3090.
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Processor | AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz |
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Motherboard | MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89) |
Cooling | Phanteks PH-TC14PE |
Memory | Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC) |
Storage | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold |
Keyboard | Redragon Devarajas RGB |
Software | Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a |
I completely missed that!Dual rank sams b-die on 5800x3d vs "questionable" ram on 5800x.
Would really like to see the opposite, ie 5800x with good b-die vs 5800x3d with trash ram.
@W1zzard if possible, can you also add 0.1% lows to the graph?
Hence the 'usually' part in my previous post.I'm a disabled single dad and i could afford one.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS B550M-Plus WiFi II |
Cooling | Noctua U12A chromax.black |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + 980 Pro 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer Nitro XV271UM3B IPS 180Hz |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Gigaworks - Razer Blackshark V2 Pro |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Asus ROG Falchion |
Software | Windows 11 64bit |
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I get the feeling he's going to do a few of these comparisons, and when he has enough done he'll be able to use the results in the new reviews from then on@W1zzard we need a 13900k vs 7950x oc'd on a 4090 and 7900 xt when you get it
Really intriguing to see how many % the next X3D's gonna demolish 13600K & 13700K. I wager anywhere from 15-30% faster.View attachment 268093
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**HU used a 3090Ti, not a 4090.**
Excellent job!
I wanted to see a 1% lows chart using the 4090 but ok.
We can imagine that the difference would be massive.
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
Lol i cant believe i failed this again… fixed now and hopefully for future articles, too
Days Gone 2021DX12 UE4
Number #47514 when I ask you to stop including Days Gone under DX12. This meta joke has to STAHP.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
System Name | Bro2 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Corsair h115i pro rgb |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14 @3800Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil 1.1v@2400Mhz |
Storage | M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 27UD69 UHD / LG 27GN950 |
Case | Fractal Design G |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W GOLD |
Mouse | Logitech G402 |
Keyboard | Logitech slim |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit |
You have no idea what you are talking about. 1800x is much slower than any 5000 series processor. Here you are comparing 8 cores to 8 cores. 5800x3d even with slightly slower clocks than a 5800x, eats the 1800x whole. The 3000 series CPUs where miles ahead of the 1st Ryzen.With a much more expensive X3D, it should be taken into account that it is weaker than the 1800X in applications that do not react intensively to the cache memory (3.8/4.7 GHz versus 3.4/4.5 GHz).
System Name | Best AMD Computer |
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Processor | AMD 7900X3D |
Motherboard | Asus X670E E Strix |
Cooling | In Win SR36 |
Memory | GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled) |
Storage | Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500 |
Display(s) | GIGABYTE FV43U |
Case | Corsair 7000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1 |
Power Supply | Deepcool 1000M |
Mouse | Logitech g7 gaming mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G510 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121 |
What are you talking about? The IPC improvement alone between 1st Gen and 4th Gen belies what you are saying. Then let us realistically look at clock speeds. If you can get a 1800X to 4.7 GHZ (On air) you have the ultimate unicorn. The 5800X is faster in most applications than the 5800X3D but if you are coming from anything before that outside of the 3900/3950X the 5800X3D is a common sense upgrade for anyone with a previous Gen AM4 chip that wants to Game. Put another way the 5800X3D is like the next compelling CPU that the 3300X was. I can also confirm once again that the 5800X3D uses less power than the 5800/5900/5950X and blows them away in 1% lows and FPS in some Games.With a much more expensive X3D, it should be taken into account that it is weaker than the 1800X in applications that do not react intensively to the cache memory (3.8/4.7 GHz versus 3.4/4.5 GHz).
System Name | HTC's System |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Asrock Taichi X370 |
Cooling | NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit |
Memory | G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 6600 8 GB |
Storage | 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III |
Display(s) | LG 27UD58 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Elite |
Software | Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS |
If you can get a 1800X to 4.7 GHZ
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA |
Memory | 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB |
Storage | Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB |
Display(s) | AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz |
Case | SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek 7.1 onboard |
Power Supply | Seasonic Core GC 500W |
Mouse | Sharkoon SHARK Force Black |
Keyboard | Trust GXT280 |
Software | Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux |
Apparently even replays are not reliable according to Ian (former anandtech) part of the game engine doesn't work like physics.All games are tested in custom bench scenes as the integrated benchmarks often paint a completely inaccurate picture compared to actual gameplay. Also, the GPU vendors actively optimize their drivers to achieve good results in integrated benchmarks
5800X3D's probably the best AMD CPU since Athlon 64 Era tbh. I imagine the profits from it must be so good to the point we'll see X3D being featured in every generations from now on.@W1zzard many kudos for your great job! This 3D-cache will be standard on many future CPU gens from AMD since not also make fast RAM less important but also it stop the CPUs being the bottleneck of many unoptimised game engines out there. Adding the success 5800X3D has in the market atm while both Intel and AMD released the latest CPU series, it will become the normality for the desktop (mostly) sooner that most expected.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS B550M-Plus WiFi II |
Cooling | Noctua U12A chromax.black |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + 980 Pro 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer Nitro XV271UM3B IPS 180Hz |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Gigaworks - Razer Blackshark V2 Pro |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Asus ROG Falchion |
Software | Windows 11 64bit |
@W1zzard many kudos for your great job! This 3D-cache will be standard on many future CPU gens from AMD since not also make fast RAM less important but also it stop the CPUs being the bottleneck of many unoptimised game engines out there. Adding the success 5800X3D has in the market atm while both Intel and AMD released the latest CPU series, it will become the normality for the desktop (mostly) sooner that most expected.
System Name | Home PC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900X |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X370 Pro |
Cooling | Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 |
Memory | 2x8gb F4-3200C16-8GVKB - 2x16gb F4-3200C16-16GVK |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX480 GTR |
Storage | Samsung SSD Evo 120GB -WD SN580 1TB - Toshiba 2TB HDWT720 - 1TB GIGABYTE GP-GSTFS31100TNTD |
Display(s) | Cooler Master GA271 and AoC 931wx (19in, 1680x1050) |
Case | Green Magnum Evo |
Power Supply | Green 650UK Plus |
Mouse | Green GM602-RGB ( copy of Aula F810 ) |
Keyboard | Old 12 years FOCUS FK-8100 |
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
Its not a baseless assumption.Thanks for the benchmark analysis!
It would be very interesting to learn more about WHY the 3D V-Cache provides a massive gain in some titles (even at 4K, there are 10 titles that still show a +15% FPS improvement).
From all the tech talk about 3D V-Cache, I have decoded in layman's terms that the 5800X3D accelerates when:
It would take some investigative journalism to reach out to the game developers, but I'm curious to learn how those 10 titles (and others) align into different categories, such as those 4 above.
- Workloads cannot fit in a 'normal' sized cache
- Workloads are extremely CPU limited
- Workloads are memory sensitive
- Workloads reuse data and calculations
AMD has clear intentions to move forward with 3D V-Cache on AM5, and the package will (hopefully) be improved upon. But it's still an assumption to think the same game titles will benefit (in the same way) from future X3D CPUs.
Yeah everyone got so emotional about the 1800X statement that they missed the mismatching clock speeds in the same post..I'm pretty sure dude meant a 5800X but wrote 1800X instead: his statement makes absolutely NO SENSE otherwise.