be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4 120 mm PWM Fan

Chrispy_ · Nov 2, 2022

SOAREVERSOR said:
The rubber corner bumpers exist for people who are new at this. For them, they work. For those of us who have been building for years or have to open up rackmounts at work it's pointless.

I'm saying rubber corner bumpers are pointless if you're screwing directly into the fan frame with those standard self-tapping case-fan screws. That utterly bypasses the rubber corners in every single way.

To put it in leyman terms, the rubber corner bumpers are like a tyres on a bicycle wheel. They work to cushion the wheel from the ground if (and only if) all of the force is going through the tyre. Screwing the fan frame directly to the case with metal screws is like removing the tyre becuase now the bare metal wheel rim is directly in contact with the ground, just like the rigid fan frame is directly in contact with a metal screw that is mechanically static. The screw doesn't move in the fan frame and the screw doesn't move in the case. As far as the dynamics of it, the screw, fan-frame, and case are all a single, zero-movement part.

The rubber does NOTHING. Not even a tiny bit. It is 100% bypassed with zero exceptions or negligible benefits whatsoever.

SOAREVERSOR · Nov 2, 2022

Chrispy_ said:
I'm saying rubber corner bumpers are pointless if you're screwing directly into the fan frame with those standard self-tapping case-fan screws. That utterly bypasses the rubber corners in every single way.

I'm saying you'd be shocked how many people screw that up.

Chrispy_ · Nov 2, 2022

SOAREVERSOR said:
I'm saying you'd be shocked how many people screw that up.

When you say "screw that up", what do you mean? They are using the only supplied screws.

SOAREVERSOR · Nov 2, 2022

Chrispy_ said:
When you say "screw that up", what do you mean? They are using the only supplied screws.

Fuck it up! Most people that build PCs are not that good at it even remotely. Heatsinks mounted wrong, fans not mounted correct, drives not even mounted it ranges from hot mess to utter shit show. Hence all these mounting tools, anti vibration and more. It's to make up for most PC gamers being utterly incompetent and building clonkers. The portion of PC gamers that build PCs that shouldn't be tossed out the window is laughably small.

Chrispy_ · Nov 2, 2022

SOAREVERSOR said:
Fuck it up! Most people that build PCs are not that good at it even remotely. Heatsinks mounted wrong, fans not mounted correct, drives not even mounted it ranges from hot mess to utter shit show. Hence all these mounting tools, anti vibration and more. It's to make up for most PC gamers being utterly incompetent and building clonkers. The portion of PC gamers that build PCs that shouldn't be tossed out the window is laughably small.

Hah, I'm not sure anyone can get screwing a fan into a case wrong. There's literally a pack of four screws and the fan has four holes per side!

SOAREVERSOR · Nov 2, 2022

Chrispy_ said:
Hah, I'm not sure anyone can get screwing a fan into a case wrong. There's literally a pack of four screws and the fan has four holes per side!

Think of how stupid the average person is. Then remember that PC gamers are largely young and dumb men.

Mussels · Nov 3, 2022

Chrispy_ said:
Hah, I'm not sure anyone can get screwing a fan into a case wrong. There's literally a pack of four screws and the fan has four holes per side!

Oh.
Yeah, no. People are dumb.

Every screw must be installed with maximum force until you hear the metal rip, and in some FB groups i follow 95% of the builds have fans installed the wrong way so they can see the RGB better

DrCR · Nov 3, 2022

Mussels said:
fans installed the wrong way so they can see the RGB better

that… that gave me physical pain.

megaclite · Nov 4, 2022

Rx771 said:
One more Gentle Typhoon, everybody become Gentle Typhoon.
Congratulation, the 120mm fan stop progress from now, and keep using a tens years-old prototype.

True.
GT is simply the best fan, thats why we have clones of it: Noctua a12x25, TT Toughfan 12, Thermalright TL-B12, Be Quiet SL Wings Pro 4, Phanteks T30, CoolerMaster SF120m, FA12025E12BPM they all made by license of Nidec Servo
and thats why they all cost the same 30$
There is two version of GT: 7 blade (aka Phanteks T30, SF120M) and 9 blade (rest)

VSG · Nov 4, 2022

megaclite said:
True.
GT is simply the best fan, thats why we have clones of it: Noctua a12x25, TT Toughfan 12, Thermalright TL-B12, Be Quiet SL Wings Pro 4, Phanteks T30, CoolerMaster SF120m, FA12025E12BPM they all made by license of Nidec Servo
and thats why they all cost the same 30$
There is two version of GT: 7 blade (aka Phanteks T30, SF120M) and 9 blade (rest)
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Sorry, you are absolutely wrong in claiming they are "all made by license of Nidec Servo". I am replying here to let people know to not believe this.

Mussels · Nov 5, 2022

Phsyics is why the designs are similar, as we get better materials over time and better production, each step of the way will end up with an optimal shape and layout

regs · Nov 5, 2022

Mussels said:
Phsyics is why the designs are similar, as we get better materials over time and better production, each step of the way will end up with an optimal shape and layout

But here it's too similar - starting from blade shape and ending with blade count. You can have own approaches and Arctic P12 showing it well.

megaclite said:
they all made by license of Nidec Servo

As far as I know only Scythe had license

Don't get me wrong - i'm fine with those copies, unless they show good results and prices. But even SW4 is pretty expensive. Not talking about SW Pro 4.

Mussels · Nov 6, 2022

regs said:
But here it's too similar - starting from blade shape and ending with blade count. You can have own approaches and Arctic P12 showing it well.

As far as I know only Scythe had license

Don't get me wrong - i'm fine with those copies, unless they show good results and prices. But even SW4 is pretty expensive. Not talking about SW Pro 4.

More than one great design might exist - but if those ones have patents and evil lawyers protecting them, people gravitate to open designs known to work well and make small adjustments

P4-630 · Dec 10, 2022

Bought and using 3 of them, they aren't "silent" anymore above 1500rpm.... (have mine set at the middle "high speed" mode)

They shouldn't have "Silent" in the product name imo, better name them "High performance" , because they do move a lot of air, that's for sure.

Ferrum Master · Dec 10, 2022

P4-630 said:
Bought and using 3 of them, they aren't "silent" anymore above 1500rpm.... (have mine set at the middle "high speed" mode)

Ehrm... yea? The grass is green also...

Their point that these are most flexible RPM range FANS I've ever had offering it all. Most High Pressure fans don't offer wide RPM range nor they are silent at any range at all, where motor noise creeps in.

Tailor your desired Fan Curves and call it a day.

P4-630 · Dec 10, 2022

Ferrum Master said:
Tailor your desired Fan Curves and call it a day.

Working on it!

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