Will the Arc A770 owners please stand up?

[Fouquin]

I've noticed that seemingly the A770 didn't really launch on the 12th. While there are photos with people showing off the A750 in a few places, and eBay has some (hilariously) trying to scalp them, the A770 seems almost entirely vacant. There is only one listing on eBay (US) for the A770, and it's a low-feedback reseller in China that reports to have a whole three cards... For $750. Newegg claims they're Out of Stock, and yet nobody seems to own one.

Did anyone buy one? Has anyone been ABLE to buy one? Is there anyone who didn't receive one for free from Intel or their partners that actually has an A770?

And yes, I know, the value of the A770 isn't good. I'm not worried about the value. Somebody eventually buys even the poor value cards, if they physically exist.

 

[ZoneDymo]

I feel ya, Im also looking on youtube for non professional reviewer vids of people who just bought one and test running some games on it.
The bewildering and sad thing is that EVERY GAWD DAMN REVIEWER tests exactly the same programs and games....like there are so many...why test the same shit as everyone else?

There was one who tested the A750 with GTA4, finally something different, and it ran like crap until they modded it with DXVK (which was also interesting as I had not heard from it yet) and then it ran quite well so yeah that was cool.

But yeah, im waiting for people who happen to own them to do some vids showing some less conventional games and how they run, just to get a better idea of the general performance and stability of the products.

 

[Dristun]

I have it ordered from China, should be here in 3 weeks or so. I'll make sure to post over in Intel Arc subforums when (if, haha) I get it. By the way, there's one owner of an Asrock card over there!

 

[QuietBob]

I only saw a single offer for the 16GB variant. A major local reseller had it on pre-order. Priced at $330 in local currency, and sold out within the hour. I wouldn't mind giving it a spin myself, but not for the price.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I do a quick look every single day and I cannot find 770's in the states other than on Ebay.

I did see an ASRock A750 pop up for a minute on Newegg before it sold out.

 

[Solaris17]

UPS says it will arrive Tuesday.

Here is my 8Gb Asrock one

 

[funkyj]

I'm new to these forums and I missed the boat on the 770 16GB which I wanted to pick up on release, but it was a no go for me on Newegg. I managed to grab the ASRock 750 on the 12th before they went out of stock. It was delivered last week. Replaced an aging Vega 56 which will move to my son's PC. I haven't thrown a ton of games at it yet, mostly been playing Cyberpunk 2077 which runs much better than the Vega for me. I keep ray tracing off. I did download Fallout 3 since it's a free game this week on the Epic store and figured it would be a good directx9 test. Only snag I ran into was that the Epic version says it specifically doesn't support integrated graphics, and I think it was detecting the Intel driver as such. The Intel HD Graphics Bypass Package download from Nexus mods resolved that and the game runs fine now. Couldn't get dxvk to work on it. I'll try some other games this weekend and see how they perform. Only other problem I've had is my PC passes HDMI through an AVR for 5.1 speakers and then to the TV. That for the most part works great, but I noticed if I change inputs on the TV and back to the PC HDMI input a few times, it won't display. Unplugging the HDMI cable from the card and back in resolves it. So far that's my only real nitpick. The ASRock card looks like it will be much easier to clean and repaste down the road than the Intel card, but I do like the Intel shroud better. I realize the OP was looking for 770 info, but since there weren't a lot posts I figured I'd chime in the 750 experience I've had so far over the past few days.

 

[funkyj]

Played a couple more older games this past weekend just to see how they performed. Not much to tell. Booted up my Skyrim Special Ed. save and that ran fine. Didn't test any fancy mods though. Also tried Deus Ex Revision. Both those games played fine out of the box with no glitches.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I realize the OP was looking for 770 info, but since there weren't a lot posts I figured I'd chime in the 750 experience I've had so far over the past few days.

And that input is welcome here I would think. While W1zzard's reviews and testing are top-notch, for the sake of raw performance testing he pushes all settings to the max. While that is an excellent gauge of what lower settings might offer, it's nice to see and read about more real-world usage.

Booted up my Skyrim Special Ed. save and that ran fine. Didn't test any fancy mods though.

Try a few of them and tell us how your experience goes.

BTW, welcome to TPU!

 

[Solaris17]

Yay! Will do performance soon im super behind all my threads are neglected currently.

 

[r9]

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UPS says it will arrive Tuesday.

Here is my 8Gb Asrock one

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Do you intend to be your daily driver or just to satisfy the curiosity ?
And why two ?

 

[Solaris17]

Do you intend to be your daily driver or just to satisfy the curiosity ?
And why two ?

Just satisfy my curiosity. As for two. When I initially went to buy the Intel version they were sold out, with no option to auto notify or back order. It was also the only card available. As luck had it, I refreshed the page and the Asrock 8GB appeared on the site and WAS in stock so I jumped on the chance.

A few hours later while refreshing for the 4090's the intel one popped up for back order. I still don't know if it was intended. Either way I placed my back order and immediately the option was removed. I didn't honestly think the order would get fulfilled given what happened, but it was the one that I initially wanted and it was in my order history.

The order was never removed. About a week later I was pleasantly surprised with an ETA, and finally a few days after the ship ETA surprised again with tracking, until it now sits on my kitchen island.

 

[r9]

Just satisfy my curiosity. As for two. When I initially went to buy the Intel version they were sold out, with no option to auto notify or back order. It was also the only card available. As luck had it, I refreshed the page and the Asrock 8GB appeared on the site and WAS in stock so I jumped on the chance.

A few hours later while refreshing for the 4090's the intel one popped up for back order. I still don't know if it was intended. Either way I placed my back order and immediately the option was removed. I didn't honestly think the order would get fulfilled given what happened, but it was the one that I initially wanted and it was in my order history.

The order was never removed. About a week later I was pleasantly surprised with an ETA, and finally a few days after the ship ETA surprised again with tracking, until it now sits on my kitchen island.

Let us know you like them.

 

[funkyj]

BTW, welcome to TPU!

Thanks! Glad to be here. I'll try out some Skyrim mods when I get a chance. Today I tried some OpenCL tests. Started up BOINC and Einstein and it detects the GPU, no problem. The WUs stop at 89.997% so likely a bug. I'll let it run over night and see if anything finishes any of them.

Couple other quick tests. Geekbench crashes on me on an Intel dll.

Tried Compubench and it at least loads and runs but has some failed tests.

The Einstein tasks did finish, I just didn't wait long enough, so that's a plus.

 

[Fouquin]

Almost exactly a month after launch before I could eventually find one in stock. So this is me, standing up.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Almost exactly a month after launch before I could eventually find one in stock. So this is me, standing up.

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You got a nice photo in the other thread. How's it perform for you?

 

[Lei]

Hi, please save your photos as jpg and then attach them. Do not copy paste from clipboard.
Congrats on your card

Almost exactly a month after launch before I could eventually find one in stock. So this is me, standing up.

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[sLowEnd]

Thanks! Glad to be here. I'll try out some Skyrim mods when I get a chance. Today I tried some OpenCL tests. Started up BOINC and Einstein and it detects the GPU, no problem. The WUs stop at 89.997% so likely a bug. I'll let it run over night and see if anything finishes any of them. Couple other quick tests. Geekbench crashes on me on an Intel dll.

Tried Compubench and it at least loads and runs but has some failed tests.

The Einstein tasks did finish, I just didn't wait long enough, so that's a plus.

ARC Alchemist cards don't support FP64 natively but instead do it through emulation, so that's something to keep in mind. I'm not sure how important that is for Einstein or BOINC, but I was disappointed to hear it's no bueno for Folding when I looked into the card's non-gaming uses.

 

[Fouquin]

How's it perform for you?

Well right now it's attached to a system that doesn't exactly let it perform to its theoretical limits. I'm finding that Intel did not work very hard on compatibility for their driver installer as it seems to simply crash if you don't have the card plugged into an AMD or Intel system.

Hi, please save your photos as jpg and then attach them. Do not copy paste from clipboard.

Not that I expect anyone else to have this issue, but if you have a VIA/CenTaur system expect to be dealing with some compatibility headaches. First, extended BAR and bus mastering on the IOE does NOT make Arc happy. So you'll be stuck with fixed BAR. Take the performance hit.

Second, Arc hates slow CPUs and ESPECIALLY slow CPUs that aren't Intel. Reporting as Centaur/VIA/Zhaoxhin: ~8% performance drop. Take the hit unless you've got The Concluder (ID spoofing) to help alleviate this issue. I don't think this is malicious targeting by Intel to slow third party x86 chips, I think this is literally a lack of optimization/care to include those devices in the driver.

Third, Intel's installer environment will not resolve the "System Specification Check" and will just crash. You'll need to rely on Windows Update/Device Manager to get drivers working. Arc Control can be installed on its own from the .zip though so that still works.

 

[QuietBob]

Well right now it's attached to a system that doesn't exactly let it perform to its theoretical limits

Looking forward to more tests. Give it the best you've got for those benchmarks!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Second, Arc hates slow CPUs and ESPECIALLY slow CPUs that aren't Intel. Reporting as Centaur/VIA/Zhaoxhin: ~8% performance drop. Take the hit unless you've got The Concluder (ID spoofing) to help alleviate this issue. I don't think this is malicious targeting by Intel to slow third party x86 chips, I think this is literally a lack of optimization/care to include those devices in the driver.

I don't think Intel is focused on non-mainstream platforms. AMD and Intel platforms are what the vast majority of the X86 world uses. I didn't see that combination coming at all. I'm betting Intel didn't either.

 

[ixi]

Please, the real slimshady standup, i repeat, the real slimshady standup.

Don't want to be a tester... Don't have time or nerve for this.

 

[Fouquin]

So this is a worst-case scenario for Arc. Unsupported slow platform without ReBAR and running on PCI-E Gen3.

Here's what it could manage:

OpenCL
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/5874974

Vulkan
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/5875001



Yes I will use a supported system at some point this weekend, I just haven't wanted to shut down my main PC and swap the card in.

 

[lexluthermiester]

So this is a worst-case scenario for Arc. Unsupported slow platform without ReBAR and running on PCI-E Gen3.

Here's what it could manage:

OpenCL
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/5874974

Vulkan
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/5875001

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Yes I will use a supported system at some point this weekend, I just haven't wanted to shut down my main PC and swap the card in.

While not optimal, those are not terrible numbers, given the platform it's running on.

 

[Fouquin]

Behold, a pile of screenshots from a supported system. At some point I'll find time to do actual game testing. I didn't run any of these at stock settings, though my card does not appear to OC very well in comparison to others I've seen, so these results are closer to stock than many others.