Processor | Ryzen R7 5700X |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 I Pro WiFi |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L12 |
Memory | 32 GB LPX DDR4-3200-RAM |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia Geforce RTX 4080 FE 16 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Gigabyte Aorus NVMe SSD |
Display(s) | EIZO ColorEdge CG2700X |
Case | FormD T1 V2 SW |
Audio Device(s) | Naim Mu-so QB2 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Vertical |
Keyboard | Mode 65, Mode Sonnet, ZSA Moonlander |
Software | Windows 10 |
System Name | Personal / HTPC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900x / Ryzen 5600X3D |
Motherboard | Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 /ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming |
Cooling | Corsair H100i / bequiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4 3200 / 16GB DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti / EVGA RTX 3060 XC |
Storage | 500GB Pro 970, 250 GB SSD, 1TB & 500GB Western Digital / lots |
Display(s) | Dell - S3220DGF & S3222DGM 32" |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo / CM HAF XB Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G35 headset |
Power Supply | 850W SeaSonic X Series / 750W SeaSonic X Series |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Black Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 / Windows 10 Pro 64 |
I understand that you're basing the price of newegg, but it's not newegg that's selling those cards at these prices, it's 3rd parties that are just scalping (it's on the stupid consumer's shoulders if they're wanting to pay that price).Yes, it is now .. I checked Newegg yesterday ..and yes I was like "WTF" too
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
I understand that you're basing the price of newegg, but it's not newegg that's selling those cards at these prices, it's 3rd parties that are just scalping (it's on the stupid consumer's shoulders if they're wanting to pay that price).
If retailers actually start jacking up pricing (Best Buy, Micro Center, Newegg, Amazon, etc) like they eventually did with Ampere and RDNA2 then I'd agree with you that pricing is up and you should mark things accordingly then.
My two cents: Just because it's hard to find a card at normal MSRP, doesn't mean the cards are selling more than they are listed for by retailers and I find it in poor taste to state otherwise....it feels disingenuous.
Processor | i7-4790K 4.6GHz @1.29v |
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Motherboard | ASUS Maximus Hero VII Z97 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S |
Memory | G. Skill Trident X 2x8GB 2133MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf RTX 3060 V1 FHR (Newegg Shuffle) |
Storage | OS 120GB Kingston V300, Samsung 850 Pro 512GB , 3TB Hitachi HDD, 2x5TB Toshiba X300, 500GB M.2 @ x2 |
Display(s) | Lenovo y27g 1080p 144Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright) |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 850w |
Mouse | Glorious Model D |
Keyboard | Rosewill Full Size. Red Switches. Blue Leds. RK-9100xBRE - Hate this. way to big |
Software | Win10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark FireStrike Score : needs updating |
Is +30% not huge? Then on top of that the 13900K is even faster than the 5800X3D.. don't really see the point of linking your own article that shows over 30% gains in multiple titles at 1440p then mocking a user's adjective describing your own article."HUGE"![]()
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System Name | M3401 notebook |
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Processor | 5600H |
Motherboard | NA |
Memory | 16GB |
Video Card(s) | 3050 |
Storage | 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | 14" OLED screen of the laptop |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling. |
it's 3rd parties that are just scalping
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Exactly. And considering something as cheap to run as retail typically requires gross margins above 10% to break even, you can only imagine the types of margins needed to break even for a company doing design, extremely complex industrial production, and distribution of products.You cannot expect AIB who works at below 10% gross margin, if sold at MSRP, to sell at MSRP.
View attachment 270053Italy, now, including 22% VAT.
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
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Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Galax Stealth STL-03 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
With the exception of improved encoding, no. The 4000 series is pointless if you don’t need that or literally have money to burn.
Cheapest prices here in Croatia with 25% VAT. PC gaming is officially for rich people.
System Name | Computer of Theseus |
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Processor | Intel i9-12900KS: 50x Pcore multi @ 1.18Vcore (target 1.275V -100mv offset) |
Motherboard | EVGA Z690 Classified |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S, 2xThermalRight TY-143, 4xNoctua NF-A12x25,3xNF-A12x15, 2xAquacomputer Splitty9Active |
Memory | G-Skill Trident Z5 (32GB) DDR5-6000 C36 F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK |
Video Card(s) | ASUS PROART RTX 4070 Ti-Super OC 16GB, 2670MHz, 0.93V |
Storage | 1x Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe (OS), 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (data), ASUS BW-16D1HT (BluRay) |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz Primary, Dell P2017H 19.5" 1600x900 Secondary, Ergotron LX arms. |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotechnica ATR2100X-USB, El Gato Wave XLR Mic Preamp, ATH M50X Headphones, Behringer 302USB Mixer |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White, MODDIY 12VHPWR Cable |
Mouse | Zowie EC3-C |
Keyboard | Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow) |
Software | Win 10 LTSC 21H2 |
It will probably be the same: crazy price at launch but will drop.Technically impressive, much less so pricewise. I hope for AMD's 7900XTX to be highly competitive and putting on some pressure on Nvidia's exaggerated pricing.
The more you buy, the more you save!That was the excuse used to explain, why there was no $999 2080Ti. And then, on 3000 series presentation, The Leather Man himself admitted it was $1200.
So, while it is true, that we cannot rule out scalping, we also have no idea what the "real" MSRP is. Especially with this info in mind:
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You cannot expect AIB who works at below 10% gross margin, if sold at MSRP, to sell at MSRP.
System Name | It does stuff |
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Processor | Ryzen 3600 |
Motherboard | B550 Gaming X V2 |
Cooling | Stock |
Memory | 16GB DDR4 3600 |
Video Card(s) | RX 6700XT |
Storage | Too much |
Display(s) | 27" & 21.5" |
Case | Antec 300 |
Power Supply | 750W |
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Processor | i9-10850K @ 125W Power Limit |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming Z590-PLUS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | Kingston KF432C16RBK2/64 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RTX 3070 TUF GAMING O8G @ 950mV / 2010MHz |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB + Kingston KC3000 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 2TB + Samsung 870 EVO 4TB |
Display(s) | ASUS PB287Q + DELL S2719DGF |
Case | FRACTAL Define 7 Dark TG |
Audio Device(s) | integrated + Microlab FC330 / Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME TX-650, 80+ Titanium, 650W |
Mouse | SteelSeries Rival 600 |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 RGB TKL – CHERRY MX SPEED |
System Name | M3401 notebook |
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Processor | 5600H |
Motherboard | NA |
Memory | 16GB |
Video Card(s) | 3050 |
Storage | 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | 14" OLED screen of the laptop |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling. |
I am seeing a number of "4090 is great value", "glad I bought 4090" comments.Maybe someone at Nvidia is running a massive scale experiment to see just how long they can keep all those old GTX 1060s in service?
I don't understand this kind of prices... this is the end...
System Name | Skunkworks |
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Processor | 5800x3d |
Motherboard | x570 unify |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A |
Memory | 32GB 3600 mhz |
Video Card(s) | asrock 6800xt challenger D |
Storage | Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus 1440p144 27" |
Case | Old arse cooler master 932 |
Power Supply | Corsair 1200w platinum |
Mouse | *squeak* |
Keyboard | Some old office thing |
Software | openSUSE tumbleweed/Mint 21.2 |
Well, see there’s this thing called hyperinflation. It’s what happens when every government on earth thinks printing over 50% of all their currency in 18 months is a good idea.I don't understand this kind of prices... this is the end...
Processor | E5-2690 v4 |
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Motherboard | VEINEDA X99 |
Video Card(s) | 2080 Ti |
Storage | NE-512 KingSpec |
Display(s) | G27Q |
Case | DAOTECH X9 |
Power Supply | SF450 |
Processor | Ryzen 5700x |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g |
Cooling | Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A) |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX |
Display(s) | LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k) |
Case | Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window) |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220-VB |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52 |
Mouse | Mionix Naos Pro |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe with browns |
Software | W10 22H2 Pro x64 |
I would q it up to corps wanting to keep their over inflated covid pricing and profits. Mining boom didn’t help and all the fools (like you mentioned) paying those prices didn’t help either.Well, see there’s this thing called hyperinflation. It’s what happens when every government on earth thinks printing over 50% of all their currency in 18 months is a good idea.
There’s also this thing called debt, your average gaming consoomer is a total idiot who will take out debt for almost anything, go look at the sheer amount of credit debt and buy now pay later debt has been racked up in the last year.
Combine them together with corporate greed and ever more expensive process modes and…..
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) |
Cooling | Corsair iCUE H115i Elite Capellix 280mm |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RTX 3070 Ti TUF Gaming OC Edition |
Storage | Sabrent Rocket 1TB M.2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF |
Case | Corsair iCUE 4000X |
Audio Device(s) | ASUS Xonar D2X |
Power Supply | Corsair AX760 Platinum |
Mouse | Razer DeathAdder V2 - Wireless |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 MK.2 Low-Profile Rapidfire |
Software | Microsoft Windows 11 Pro (64-bit) |
System Name | Jedi Survivor Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Asus TUF B650M Plus Wifi |
Cooling | ThermalRight CPU Cooler |
Memory | G.Skill 32GB DDR5-5600 CL28 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3080 10GB |
Storage | 2TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD |
Display(s) | MSI 32" 4K OLED 240hz Monitor |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Power Supply | FSP 1000W Platinum PSU |
Mouse | Logitech G403 |
Keyboard | Asus Mechanical Keyboard |
Basically, like the iPhone 14 Pro. I came back to Apple with the X and XR, and now their phones are ridiuclously priced. I offered $1500 CAD for a used iPhone and the guy laughed at me and said no. Snapdragon + Oneplus, here I come.I am seeing a number of "4090 is great value", "glad I bought 4090" comments.
So maybe that was the intent, make products below halo so terrible, that not so great halo price is suddenly a bargain and people will jump a tier...![]()
Not true. They use the same TSMC process as your CPUs. CPUs are not getting more expensive. The 5800X right now is crazy cheap and the 7700X is about to be cheaper also. CPU and GPU pricing should be in lockstep.There are a few things to keep in mind. The first is that the cost of making cards has gone up massively since the late 90s and early 2000s. These are much more complex to make and require tons of materials. The constant demand for fancier graphics and physics was always going to result in rising costs. The next issue is that in capitalism you must continue to grow and make more profit or you fail. Once prior inflated prices were done there was no going back. The last is that nVidia is the premium brand here and they must charge more than AMD and not lower prices in response to keep that position and perception in the market.
This all just moving us faster to the era where cloud streaming companies are going to buy up these sort of things and then recoup the money on service fees and game sales. This is already the model for Xbox and Sony where the hardware is sold at a massive loss for a long time but the money comes from the games and service fees.
System Name | Bad Moon Ryzen |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M Pro4-F |
Cooling | Vetroo V5 |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4 |
Video Card(s) | 6700 XT |
Storage | Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G24F-2 (180Hz Freesync) & 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact w/Dark Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | MSI MPG A850GF (850w) |
VR HMD | Rift S |
System Name | Main PC |
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Processor | I5 12400F |
Motherboard | MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S |
Memory | Corsair Vengenance LPX 2x8 GB DDR4 3000 MHZ C16 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 2060 KO |
Storage | WD SN550 500GB M.2-2280 (Main drive)/ Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" SSD/ SanDisk Ultra 2 TB 2.5" SSD |
Display(s) | Main: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz 1ms, 2nd: AOC 24B2XH 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air |
Audio Device(s) | Razer Kraken 7.1 |
Power Supply | Be quiet System Power 9 500 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Semi-modular |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Corsair strafe (Cherry MX Silent) |
Software | Windows 10 |
What do you mean it isn't energy efficient? If it draws the identical power to the 3080 but also being around 30% or so faster, it means it consumes less watts per frame compared to the 3080 which shows an improvement in efficiency.It isn't energy efficient. At full usage, it draws identical power to the 3080. Nothing has changed. Ridiculous point of view imo.