Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

Oops, sorry!
Here it is: 22621.963

Ok. That shouldn't be a problem. Something is preventing it's removal.

but why remove it entirely at the risk of things breaking later?

It doesn't break anything. I have never allowed IE/Edge on my Windows installs. Never breaks anything.

And ofc, it'll come back every major update

Nope, that doesn't happen either. So unless microsoft starts playing more shenanigains(wouldn't be surprised), it won't happen..

 

[Flanker]

It's alright, I just like to get rid of stuff I don't use. I'll dig around and check if there are any more BS settings that prevents me from uninstalling stuff.

If all else fails (read: my attention span runs out) I'll learn to deal with it lol

 

[Mussels]

Ok. That shouldn't be a problem. Something is preventing it's removal.


It doesn't break anything. I have never allowed IE/Edge on my Windows installs. Never breaks anything.


Nope, that doesn't happen either. So unless microsoft starts playing more shenanigains(wouldn't be surprised), it won't happen..

Things always break, even if you don't know why.
"I hate that dot.net added a second hidden user to my vista/7 install! screw that off!"
*Halo 2 breaks*

At the very least I'd advise against regular users disabling these things because they'll always spend time chasing the wrong things, forgetting they followed someone elses instructions without knowing what they completely did

 

[nomdeplume]

Thanks Lex, I normally remove those two things as well. 22H2 was working for gaming well enough I left things alone. At least a few times I almost removed Edge. It is certainly blocked every way possible.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
This is a bummer

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But frankly I only use the flash winpe recovery boot media for creating and of course restoring system images so I'm not effected in my usage but still is a hit to that don't know how to use the winpe media.

@TheLostSwede did you post a news flash on this one ?

 

[Fleurious]

Still on the fence about moving to Win 11. Does Alder Lake really need it or have scheduler improvements been made for Win10?

 

[outpt]

W11 on main machine and it seems quite good this time around think I’ll stay with it.

 

[Space Lynx]

W11 on main machine and it seems quite good this time around think I’ll stay with it.

yeah I am using Win 11 as well now more permanently, not had any issues.

Still on the fence about moving to Win 11. Does Alder Lake really need it or have scheduler improvements been made for Win10?

yes.

 

[ThrashZone]

Still on the fence about moving to Win 11. Does Alder Lake really need it or have scheduler improvements been made for Win10?

Hi,
Very little difference between the two os's out of the box but I think 10 is less annoying at first sight and needs fewer tweaks but this depends on what you do to 10 oobe
11 probably might handle the new chips better but likely same growing pains.
11 has more obnoxious security is that a good thing to me no.

 

[ShiBDiB]

Still on the fence about moving to Win 11. Does Alder Lake really need it or have scheduler improvements been made for Win10?

You'll hate it for a week because it's different then realize your day to day improved or didn't actually change at all. And then your life will go on like normal.

Seriously, just upgrade.

 

[Nater]

So is it too late to get the "Free" upgrade? I'm shifting a lot of parts of my rig to my kid for Xmas, figure I might as well finally make the jump to Win11. I have a full retail license of Win10 Pro. I cloned my drive and I'm letting the Win11 Installation Assistant do it's thing. See if it let's me use my current license. The "Update" doesn't show up in Windows Update any more.

If it works I'll probably do a wipe and try to do a clean install to get that like new feeling.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Must be some compatibility hold if not showing up anymore.
You can always mount 22h2 build and keep apps and files = upgrade.

 

[Nater]

Hi,
Must be some compatibility hold if not showing up anymore.
You can always mount 22h2 build and keep apps and files = upgrade.

Hmm. Wonder if it's the RTX A2000.

*update*

It's done. All activated too it appears. I'm honestly shocked that worked so well. Wonder if I can do a clean install using my Windows 10 Pro key now?? (or could have before)

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

You'll hate it for a week because it's different then realize your day to day improved or didn't actually change at all. And then your life will go on like normal.

Seriously, just upgrade.

It's been two months and I am STILL annoyed and reminded daily that the context menus have been gutted and now MS has moved cut, copy, and paste from text options to poorly defined shapes that do not directly correlate to their function and are hard as hell to see with f.lux enabled. Meanwhile they STILL have not fully moved the control panel to the settings menu 12 years on.

Oh yeah, also gotta love the pestering to "use a microsoft account" and "use one drive" and other MS garbage.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

It's been two months and I am STILL annoyed and reminded daily that the context menus have been gutted and now MS has moved cut, copy, and paste from text options to poorly defined shapes that do not directly correlate to their function and are hard as hell to see with f.lux enabled. Meanwhile they STILL have not fully moved the control panel to the settings menu 12 years on.

Oh yeah, also gotta love the pestering to "use a microsoft account" and "use one drive" and other MS garbage.

Agree - that decision ranks right up there as the worst since the entire Win8 interface. Just make the registry change to bring the Win10 context menus back and move on.

 

[nomdeplume]

It's done. All activated too it appears. I'm honestly shocked that worked so well. Wonder if I can do a clean install using my Windows 10 Pro key now?? (or could have before)

Once W11 registers it should place itself into the BIOS so you never need to enter the key again.

More clearly, there are some eccentricities to fresh installs of W11.

1. Good idea to update your BIOS to newest version first.
2. Disconnect from the internet
3. Unless you use a Microsoft account or want 6 layers of login security you should refuse all related options except a password and back out if they are forced. W11 installs are all about contravening their invasive policies.
4. Answer that you DO NOT HAVE A REGISTRATION CODE. It will register itself when you restore the internet connection.
5. Have your crapware and tuning software ready (along with drivers you want installed) on an external drive. Make sure you have everything blocked or fixed in settings before restoring internet connection. With special attention to removing ability of Windows installing drivers, apps, system features, and so on and so on. Links below should give you a solid head start.

Winaero

At the edge of tweaking

winaero.com

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Builtbybel

✨ Good apps are as little apps as possible. Builtbybel has 14 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

github.com

 

[Psychoholic]

It's been two months and I am STILL annoyed and reminded daily that the context menus have been gutted and now MS has moved cut, copy, and paste from text options to poorly defined shapes that do not directly correlate to their function and are hard as hell to see with f.lux enabled.

Agreed, the new context menus suck... But you can restore the old ones with a single command:

Windows 11 right click menu old - Microsoft Community

 

[R-T-B]

Enterprise now seems to be a monthly subscription?

Has been since I started using it. It operates sort of like a monthly fee "site license," only there are usage/activation limits obviously.

this is bad. Enterprise is claimed to contain less bloat in Win 11, I only have anecdotal evidence though. can the group policy telemetry settings in Pro get unlocked somehow?

No, the builds are literally the same. The only difference is the gpedit keys won't function if your license is for pro and not enterprise. The actual installed contents is identical.

 

[Mussels]

Make sure to change to the dark theme in 11, it craps all over what 10 did

 

[lexluthermiester]

Does Alder Lake really need it or have scheduler improvements been made for Win10?

YES! If you are on 12th or 13th gen Intel, you need Windows 11. Windows 10, as of yet, does NOT support Intel's big/little design.

So is it too late to get the "Free" upgrade?

No. Free upgrades are still being applied same as Windows 10. I've seen even Windows Vista keys work. My own copy of Vista Business was used as a guinea-pig and it worked no issues.

Make sure to change to the dark theme in 11, it craps all over what 10 did

Oh hell yes this!

 

[Nater]

This may be worth it's own thread, but the first issue I've found is my media streaming is now broken. So I went back into network settings and turned "Media Streaming Options" back to on, restarted everything. Thought it worked as the TV could see my PC again, but it only sees the shared folders. Every folder appears empty. Super wierd that it can look IN the folder, but not see any files in there.

Any ideas on where this new hidden check-box is I need to hit?

 

[nomdeplume]

Agreed, the new context menus suck... But you can restore the old ones with a single command:

Windows 11 right click menu old - Microsoft Community

Thanks, I forgot to mention that horror which can be easily corrected.

W11 can be by far the hardest OS to bang into shape. The more subtle ways it works better on everything I've tried it on makes it worth the effort.

 

[theFOoL]

But then a major update will put most things back to default where you'd have look back and do it again

 

[jesdals]

After some problems with my favorite game Destiny 2 and spontane reboots - typically once or twice a day I took the plunge to a fresh install of windows 11 latest edition.

After 3 weeks of testing I must say its stable as a rock and on my system I running with PBO at a negative curve offset at - 15 plus these memory settings

Very happy to see it 100% stable again - just hopeing AMD or MS not going to fuck it up with bad updates

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks, I forgot to mention that horror which can be easily corrected.

W11 can be by far the hardest OS to bang into shape. The more subtle ways it works better on everything I've tried it on makes it worth the effort.

Hi,
Good list of tweaks

Windows 11 Tweaks - Leader Board.

These are tweaks I've seen asked for... many times. They are collected here for easy access. All of these and more can be found in the Eleven Forum Tutorials section. Make sure to read the "notes" in the various tutorials. At the bottom of the first post in all the "tutorials", there are...

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