The TPU UK Clubhouse

[Space Lynx]

You can see that by loading up a game, disabling V-sync and all FPS limiters, and see where your GPU usage is. If it's 100%, it's not being held back.

I'm not suggesting to buy a 5800X3D now - but if you go for the 5600X combo, you will have the option to upgrade later.

I did this recently, though I did leave my 162 fps cap in place, since that is my real world usage way of playing games.

I was surprised to see only like 15-30% cpu usage and 96-99% gpu usage in a lot of games.

that would probably change if i went to a 7900 xtx over the 6800 xt though...

 

[Tatty_Two]

Not sure where you get the performance difference of 30% in favour of the 5600x unless it a specific piece of software/game, looking at our 5600x review across all tests it was around 5% at 1080p and less than 1% at 1440p with similar showings in most of the other non resolution dependent tests (for example 5600x beats the 9900k in Cinebench single but 9900k wins in multi), having said that I would still likely go for the AMD combo for a bit more longevity.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Not sure where you get the performance difference of 30% in favour of the 5600x unless it a specific piece of software/game, looking at our 5600x review across all tests it was around 5% at 1080p and less than 1% at 1440p with similar showings in most of the other non resolution dependent tests (for example 5600x beats the 9900k in Cinebench single but 9900k wins in multi), having said that I would still likely go for the AMD combo for a bit more longevity.

Probably a terrible source but reddit. Ive seen a few quotes from folks stating that the IPC is 30-35% faster than Coffee Lake.

Ive also did quite a deep dive into TPU reviews comparing 8600k, 9900k to the 5600X.

also: Battlefield results show a fair jump.

I could get the 9900k but like others have said - there is no upgrade path and at least with the AM4, i can pick up a 5800X3D when prices eventually drop.

(also - the 9900k obviously wont be new, It will most likely be from CEX as i dont trust ebay) thus for the same money = brand new 5600X combo

 

[lexluthermiester]

but the 9900k just slots in.

This. It's a drop in replacement for existing system, which is a very good setup. If the 9900k is a good price, pull the trigger on that bad boy and enjoy!

I just feel that this 8600k is bottlenecking this 6700XT.

Likely, but not as much as you might think.

Not sure what your neck of the wood looks like but stateside on ebay, you can get one for $400.

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For reference. I was looking at this Combo on Scan -- not particularly an high end enthusiast setup but im probably getting too old for that shit anyway.

That is a hellova deal!

(also - the 9900k obviously wont be new, It will most likely be from CEX as i dont trust ebay) thus for the same money = brand new 5600X combo

Ah. Well then... Ignore my above link. Now if you're thinking an upgrade path with a 5800X3D, that is going to be pricey still. Current combo plus the 5800X3D, plus the hassle of selling the 5600X. The 9900k is the better option at the current moment due to the simplicity of the upgrade. When you're ready to do a full system upgrade you can go with the Ryzen 7000 series. You have what is still a fairly premium system. A side-grade to a B660 and 5600X just wouldn't serve you the way you might think.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

This. It's a drop in replacement for existing system, which is a very good setup. If the 9900k is a good price, pull the trigger on that bad boy and enjoy!


Likely, but not as much as you might think.

Not sure what your neck of the wood looks like but stateside on ebay, you can get one for $400.

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That is a hellova deal!


Ah. Well then... Ignore my above link. Now if you're thinking an upgrade path with a 5800X3D, that is going to be pricey still. Current combo plus the 5800X3D, plus the hassle of selling the 5600X. The 9900k is the better option at the current moment due to the simplicity of the upgrade. When you're ready to do a full system upgrade you can go with the Ryzen 7000 series. You have what is still a fairly premium system. A side-grade to a B660 and 5600X just wouldn't serve you the way you might think.

Thanks for your insight

:EDIT:

also - 9900k = $350 which is overpriced IMO but its the best chip for 1151.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for your insight

:EDIT:

also - 9900k = $350 which is overpriced IMO but its the best chip for 1151.

You could go with a 9700k. Same base clock, with boost clocks that are near the 9900k. Starting at around $260 here..

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Much better price for VERY similar performance.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

You could go with a 9700k. Same base clock, with boost clocks that are near the 9900k. Starting at around $260 here..

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Much better price for VERY similar performance.

Ive considered this too for the longest time as it was the cheaper option. Here its $250 but i dont think that its worth that much just for two extra cores.

If I was going to put down money, either I would go all in on the 9900k or the 5600X and the 5600X on paper is the better of the two evils even if i do have to reinstall windows.

 

[kurosagi01]

CPU pricing is definitely a funky one over here in the UK, it always has been a weird one.
The lowest price you will see for CPU is on FB market really, where most people would price them 20-30 quid less than ebay.

 

[AusWolf]

CPU pricing is definitely a funky one over here in the UK, it always has been a weird one.
The lowest price you will see for CPU is on FB market really, where most people would price them 20-30 quid less than ebay.

The funkiest prices I see on used hardware are always at CeX. Zotac 4090: we buy for £1,073, we sell for £1,850. Seriously, who would buy it used for more money than new?

 

[the54thvoid]

Thinking I ought to have booked a wee booster jab in early December when my former work colleagues were talking about it.

Thought it pointless, the Rona's not so big a deal now. Only gone and bloody caught it again. Feel like crap.

 

[AusWolf]

Thinking I ought to have booked a wee booster jab in early December when my former work colleagues were talking about it.

Thought it pointless, the Rona's no so big a deal now. Only gone and bloody caught it again. Feel like crap.

You probably would have caught it with the booster as well. A lot of my colleagues only got sick after they got jabbed. I never got jabbed, and only had the plague once. The vaccine does very little as far as I've seen.
Get better soon!

 

[Space Lynx]

Thinking I ought to have booked a wee booster jab in early December when my former work colleagues were talking about it.

Thought it pointless, the Rona's not so big a deal now. Only gone and bloody caught it again. Feel like crap.

I caught in early October in Southern England myself, but I had no issues with it my second bout, my partner lost her taste for over a week though. First bout kicked my ass for two weeks in 2020. Second bout didn't bother me at all, so either my immune system works better than I expected at remembering, or this virus i just a weird fucker. I am going with the latter, considering I am young and already have arthritis which is an immune issue I think.

Speaking of England, it is confirmed I won't be coming back, sadly due to inflation my partner has panicked and moved in with one of her gf's in Exeter. So, now there is no room for me. It is the most unhappy I have ever been in my entire life, because I was only ever happy there with her. Even with a Master's Degree, it does not matter, it is near impossible to get a work visa for UK unless you are in an in-demand field or you qualify for "refugee status". I mean America is kind of a failed state, why can't I qualify for refugee status too.

 

[the54thvoid]

You probably would have caught it with the booster as well. A lot of my colleagues only got sick after they got jabbed. I never got jabbed, and only had the plague once. The vaccine does very little as far as I've seen.
Get better soon!

The virus has changed. The early vaccines were effective at stemming the fatalities. Global epidemiological evidence shows that.

Now, there isn't enough evidence to suggest which way to go. Clearly, neither vaccines nor natural immunity hold after 11 months.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Thinking I ought to have booked a wee booster jab in early December when my former work colleagues were talking about it.

Thought it pointless, the Rona's not so big a deal now. Only gone and bloody caught it again. Feel like crap.

to be fair. Ive known people who have had 3 or 4 jabs and still ended up catching it twice anyway. There is no guarantee you wont catch it even if youre topped up.

 

[Space Lynx]

China is getting walloped by the BF 7 variant at the moment. I watched this yesterday, it was interesting.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thinking I ought to have booked a wee booster jab in early December when my former work colleagues were talking about it.

Thought it pointless, the Rona's not so big a deal now. Only gone and bloody caught it again. Feel like crap.

I'm one of the few people still wearing a mask in public.

 

[Tatty_Two]

to be fair. Ive known people who have had 3 or 4 jabs and still ended up catching it twice anyway. There is no guarantee you wont catch it even if youre topped up.

Omicron (and it's variants) was the game changer, generally milder symptoms but capable of re-infecting pretty much anyone jabbed or not. The new boosters include specific Omicron protection too.

 

[kurosagi01]

The funkiest prices I see on used hardware are always at CeX. Zotac 4090: we buy for £1,073, we sell for £1,850. Seriously, who would buy it used for more money than new?

CEX is the worst for any hardware, only things semi-worth buying from them are games/blu-ray/dvds that are within ebay pricing or if there are rare games you are after that they have underpriced or just slightly overpriced.

China is getting walloped by the BF 7 variant at the moment. I watched this yesterday, it was interesting.

China is only getting destroyed because they have locked everyone in and the citizens natural immune system is garbage.

 

[AusWolf]

CEX is the worst for any hardware, only things semi-worth buying from them are games/blu-ray/dvds that are within ebay pricing or if there are rare games you are after that they have underpriced or just slightly overpriced.

Agreed. Although selling for them can be just as fun. I will never forget when they refused to buy my 7700K because "it had bent pins".

Edit: It went something like this:
Them: "Sorry, we can't buy your CPU."
Me: "Why?"
Them: "It's got some bent pins."
Me: "It's an Intel LGA CPU, it doesn't have pins."
Them: "But they're bent, look." (Shows me the underside of the CPU.)
Me: "Those are not pins. Those are contact pads, and they do not bend."
Them: "Sorry, we still can't buy it."

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Agreed. Although selling for them can be just as fun. I will never forget when they refused to buy my 7700K because "it had bent pins".

Edit: It went something like this:
Them: "Sorry, we can't buy your CPU."
Me: "Why?"
Them: "It's got some bent pins."
Me: "It's an Intel LGA CPU, it doesn't have pins."
Them: "But they're bent, look." (Shows me the underside of the CPU.)
Me: "Those are not pins. Those are contact pads, and they do not bend."
Them: "Sorry, we still can't buy it."

Which is rather funny as they still have 7700's in stock. I think its a case of each branch having a certain amount of money they can give customers when they bring in items to pawn off every month. Ive been to stores where they said they had no cash but were happy to give vouchers or store credit to spend on other items in their stores.

The store you visited must have burned through their budget and they gave you some bum excuse to fob you off. I hope you checked your CPU when you got it back. Ive heard of CEX switching genuine products with fake products or things that werent theirs before returning them.

 

[AusWolf]

Which is rather funny as they still have 7700's in stock. I think its a case of each branch having a certain amount of money they can give customers when they bring in items to pawn off every month. Ive been to stores where they said they had no cash but were happy to give vouchers or store credit to spend on other items in their stores.

The store you visited must have burned through their budget and they gave you some bum excuse to fob you off. I hope you checked your CPU when you got it back. Ive heard of CEX switching genuine products with fake products or things that werent theirs before returning them.

As it turned out, they tested it in a Z170 motherboard, not knowing that Kaby Lake only works in 200-series ones. When they refused this explanation as well, I drove 10 miles, and sold it at another CeX store.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

As it turned out, they tested it in a Z170 motherboard, not knowing that Kaby Lake only works in 200-series ones. When they refused this explanation as well, I drove 10 miles, and sold it at another CeX store.

Absolute moron

Yeah. I never really buy anything from them. There was a time where i did buy stuff but that was a very very very long time ago. I know their prices tend to be largely on the higher end of scale so i just use them as a comparison website unless I was super desperate and really needed something i couldnt get anywhere else.

 

[kurosagi01]

I recently bought Armored core For Answer on PS3 from CeX, sold it to me for £20 which is the rough ballpark from eBay, sad thing is I didn't pay attention and only checked the game when I got home, it didn't have the manual.
The only good thing I did securely buy from them in the past few years is Nier Automata steelbook edition on PS4, which is now £60+ on eBay, bought it from CEX for £25.
Well happy new year to you all.

 

[phill]

Evening all Long time no speak or see much of you all I hope everyone is doing well??

Absolutely gutted this morning when I saw about Ken Block I hope 2023 is going to be a better year but I'm not so sure

 

[AusWolf]

Evening all Long time no speak or see much of you all I hope everyone is doing well??

Absolutely gutted this morning when I saw about Ken Block I hope 2023 is going to be a better year but I'm not so sure

What about Ken Block?

I just did a quick search before running off to work. Now my day is in ruins!