Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[AusWolf]

Haha My Gigabyte beats yours I get 2983 MHZ. What about Memory I can get a stable 2100 MHZ. I have the Gaming OC (3 Fan version) and that shroud is overkill for a GPU that small. I know exactly what you mean about tinkering. That is what has me excited about the 7900XTX 3 pin version.


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How come 2100? The 6500 XT's VRAM is at 2250 by default. OC-ing mine is the same as the GPU: push sliders to the max and call it a day (that's 2400 MHz on mine).

As for GPU clock, the slider maxes out at 2975 on mine, which ends up being 2950-ish in practice.

 

[Kapone33]

How come 2100? The 6500 XT's VRAM is at 2250 by default. OC-ing mine is the same as the GPU: push sliders to the max and call it a day (that's 2400 MHz on mine).

As for GPU clock, the slider maxes out at 2975 on mine, which ends up being 2950-ish in practice.

Sorry I was using my 6800XT memory and you are right the Memory does OC easily to 2400

 

[Mussels]

Had a random reboot while gaming

Sad

I may need that SoC voltage higher after all

It's 39C and raining so I'll just assume i've been cursed

Backs up a theory i had that WHEA errors are heat related - lighter gaming was fine earlier today and heavier games were fine in colder weather

The irony is that more voltage makes it more stable, but also adds to the heat. Makes me wanna set a 75c cTDP limit in the BIOS to prevent random spikes hurting stability

 

[The King]

Had a random reboot while gaming

Sad

I may need that SoC voltage higher after all
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It's 39C and raining so I'll just assume i've been cursed

Backs up a theory i had that WHEA errors are heat related - lighter gaming was fine earlier today and heavier games were fine in colder weather

The irony is that more voltage makes it more stable, but also adds to the heat. Makes me wanna set a 75c cTDP limit in the BIOS to prevent random spikes hurting stability

Are these WHEA 18s or WHEA 19s ?
WHEA 18s could be unstable -CO, many are running 5800X3D at -30 all cores with undervolting. Which can be the cause of WHEA 18s and random reboots

 

[Mussels]

Are these WHEA 18s or WHEA 19s ?
WHEA 18s could be unstable -CO, many are running 5800X3D at -30 all cores with undervolting. Which can be the cause of WHEA 18s and random reboots

x3D behaves totally different with CO

mine ran -30 from day one with zero issues, even with a manual voltage offset the effective clocks and performance drop, but it never comes up unstable

This is the result of my lowered SoC voltage testing, i'd gone from 1.15v to 1.05v 'kinda stable' but slowly needing the higher voltage as the weather warms up - custom loop means the GPU pre-heats the loop and 40c ambients dont help at all

 

[The King]

x3D behaves totally different with CO

mine ran -30 from day one with zero issues, even with a manual voltage offset the effective clocks and performance drop, but it never comes up unstable

This is the result of my lowered SoC voltage testing, i'd gone from 1.15v to 1.05v 'kinda stable' but slowly needing the higher voltage as the weather warms up - custom loop means the GPU pre-heats the loop and 40c ambients dont help at all

Low VSOC can results in WHEA 19s but I have not seen them cause WHEA 18s.

Usually unstable CPU V-core leads to WHEA 18s or GPU issues.

 

[Mussels]

More errors in the 40,000 feckin events history

The description for Event ID 0 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found

This might be SoC dropping the GPU, or it might be the GPU itself (again, higher ambients)

 

[The King]

Yep that is another thing that can cause WHEA errors unstable GPU.

 

[Mussels]

Reboots just don't match anything else, if i lower the GPU voltage and force a crash the game crashes and driver resets - no system restarts


Ah here we go, this time with HWinfo up - my chipset temps have gone whoosh, seeing 68C at peak
It's normally around 60C and 3,000 RPM but it's at 2500RPM and almost 70C now

New BIOS must have set it differently to what i'm used to - next rebuild i have copper shims to replace it's thermal pad

Yeah shit it's the chipset again, even 2 minutes after quitting a game the damn things stuck at 67.6c - unlike everything else it's not dropping
Fan spinning and has free air, so it must be the thermal pad again

Hour with side panel off and idle is at 63C
Sooooo yeah, chipset thermal pad has given up again



ITS MUSSELS TIME, LETS GO OVERBOARD AND DO WEIRD THINGS TO THIS POOR COMPUTER

Sigh i'll have to drain the loop for this too, might as weell check that out on the way

 

[AusWolf]

x3D behaves totally different with CO

mine ran -30 from day one with zero issues, even with a manual voltage offset the effective clocks and performance drop, but it never comes up unstable

This is the result of my lowered SoC voltage testing, i'd gone from 1.15v to 1.05v 'kinda stable' but slowly needing the higher voltage as the weather warms up - custom loop means the GPU pre-heats the loop and 40c ambients dont help at all

I don't know if the Zen 3 SoC behaves in any similar way to Zen 4, but 1.05 V sounds kind of low to me.

 

[freeagent]

I don't know if the Zen 3 SoC behaves in any similar way to Zen 4, but 1.05 V sounds kind of low to me.

1.05v is low, like stock volts for 1600 1:1. I normally run the SOC on all of my Zen 3 parts at 1.15. So if your soc is similar to zen 3 give it the beans

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Yeah shit it's the chipset again, even 2 minutes after quitting a game the damn things stuck at 67.6c - unlike everything else it's not dropping
Fan spinning and has free air, so it must be the thermal pad again

Hour with side panel off and idle is at 63C
Sooooo yeah, chipset thermal pad has given up again



ITS MUSSELS TIME, LETS GO OVERBOARD AND DO WEIRD THINGS TO THIS POOR COMPUTER

Sigh i'll have to drain the loop for this too, might as weell check that out on the way

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[AusWolf]

1.05v is low, like stock volts for 1600 1:1. I normally run the SOC on all of my Zen 3 parts at 1.15. So if your soc is similar to zen 3 give it the beans

It's currently at 1.2 with UCLK at 3000 (1:1 to RAM), which I'm happy with. I don't want to touch it in case my board decides to do something stupid again.

 

[freeagent]

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It's currently at 1.2 with UCLK at 3000 (1:1 to RAM), which I'm happy with. I don't want to touch it in case my board decides to do something stupid again.

I know nothing of AM5 so I wouldn’t listen to me if I were you

 

[Mussels]

Okay so results first
no more 3,000 RPM for 65C

replacement pads lasted as long as the OG pads

The method?
heh.

Time for friendo


Nails 'n Hair did

Oh no! Its the po-po!

Quick, put on sunscreen!
Oh no! the coppers also got sunscreen! And he's making baby chipsets with me!

Look asus you did a shit design, and its ugly too

Good thing i'm not running that temp sensitive B-die crap

40c ambients would make it literally unusable

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I had a bunch of things go wrong

1. Something had reset my corsair commander pro, so fan speeds were all outta whack
Pump from 100% down to 30%, fans from 60% to 20%, etc.

2. Chipset cooler definitely was running hotter than it should be

3. Afterburner loaded a really old profile that was unstable, instead of the same one it's been loading happily for weeks/months

 

[Mussels]

And today, the chipset didnt even break 60c while gaming

Almost like having the fans/pump at proper speeds and slapping a piece of copper instead of a thermal pad fixed things

 

[BlaezaLite]

So, anyone fancy walking me through how to OC my 5700X? I don't want to go ridiculous, just a nice stable overclock. I used the auto oc in Adrenaline and it was a bit much, resulting in Whea error 18. So I have left it stock but now I'm getting itchy, lol.

 

[freeagent]

Increase limits and boost override until its stable at the temps and speeds you can deal with

 

[BlaezaLite]

Increase limits and boost override until its stable at the temps and speeds you can deal with

Thank you for your highly in-depth overclocking guide! Do I oc through the bios or Master?

 

[freeagent]

You can start with the stock limits and see what you have to work with and go from there. My 5900X is a bit of a dud but I run it with an unstable for corecycler OC.

I use bios, no software..

 

[BlaezaLite]

You can start with the stock limits and see what you have to work with and go from there. My 5900X is a bit of a dud but I run it with an unstable for corecycler OC.

I use bios, no software..

Okey dokey. I'll be back in 10 minutes worried sick about something.

 

[freeagent]

Okey dokey. I'll be back in 10 minutes worried sick about something.

I was the same way, no need to worry.

For me, what I did was find the absolute max PPT my CPUs could put out, steadily feeding it TDC and EDC. Once I found the max I set and all core curve at -30 +200 and kinda worked my way down from there. My 5900X is a total fecking dud, but I was able to get my 5600X stable in CC at +150. I run it at +200 anyways

Its not the way everyone else does it though..

 

[BlaezaLite]

I was the same way, no need to worry.

For me, what I did was find the absolute max PPT my CPUs could put out, steadily feeding it TDC and EDC. Once I found the max I set and all core curve at -30 +200 and kinda worked my way down from there. My 5900X is a total fecking dud, but I was able to get my 5600X stable in CC at +150. I run it at +200 anyways

Its not the way everyone else does it though..

I adjusted the max boost override by +150 and got 3 BSOD's! Changed it to +100 and turned PBO off and just got 42,190 on Fire Strike. I don't understand all the PPT, TDC and EDC. Also doesn't help that I'm a visual learner, but just very slow.

 

[AusWolf]

I adjusted the max boost override by +150 and got 3 BSOD's! Changed it to +100 and turned PBO off and just got 42,190 on Fire Strike. I don't understand all the PPT, TDC and EDC. Also doesn't help that I'm a visual learner, but just very slow.

PPT = that's the max. power target, kind of like Intel's PL1 and PL2 combined in one value.
TDC = Thermal Design Current.
EDC = Electric Design current.
These are current limits (as in Amperes). I don't know what the difference is between the two.

I'm also a visual (and tactile) learner myself, that's why I don't bother overclocking these modern chips. The benefits are very small, while the risk of me fecking up something in the process is high.

 

[Mussels]

So, anyone fancy walking me through how to OC my 5700X? I don't want to go ridiculous, just a nice stable overclock. I used the auto oc in Adrenaline and it was a bit much, resulting in Whea error 18. So I have left it stock but now I'm getting itchy, lol.

try an all core overclock with that one

See if 4.6GHz all core works at 1.2v
If errors, slowly raise core voltage
If no errors, slowly lower the voltage

If it's too hot, lower the multiplier 0.25 at a time until you can find a clock speed and voltage your cooling can handle

Once you have that, you can worry about benchmark scores vs stock

30 minute cinebench runs are my minimum standard for voltage tests
The 5700x has a lower TDP than the other chips so PBO overclocking doesn't get you as far