• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Is a game's graphical quality important to you?

Are graphics important?

  • Yes.

  • No.

  • I have a preference for presentation (e.g. cartoony, realistic, etc.).

  • Other (please specify).

  • Yes (up to a point).

  • No (up to a point).


Results are only viewable after voting.

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
Thanks for confirming this is a marketing story indeed, that was quick though, damn.

Metaverse is going well, I hear, too ;)
This is a CEO fantasy world man, don't dive to deep.
Happens to be the next update to the toolset that is basically the industry standard bro :)

Keep dreaming though.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
9,340 (5.43/day)
Location
Louisiana
System Name Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth
Cooling oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15
Memory Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s) Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard G710+x3
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores Are in the benchmark section
Hi,
Yeah just buy it man in leather jacket says :laugh:
 

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
Hi,
Yeah just buy it man in leather jacket says :laugh:
Seems to be working as they have 85%+ marketshare and people who work with their GPUs laugh at anything that isn't NVIDIA :)

Precisely because of the software/hardware ecosystem BTW.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,300 (6.02/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Happens to be the next update to the toolset that is basically the industry standard bro :)

Keep dreaming though.
Like I say, every time the next best thing since sliced bread is announced: 'I'll see it when it's done'

Still eating slices of bread though, somehow.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
9,340 (5.43/day)
Location
Louisiana
System Name Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth
Cooling oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15
Memory Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s) Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard G710+x3
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores Are in the benchmark section
Seems to be working as they have 85%+ marketshare and people who work with their GPUs laugh at anything that isn't NVIDIA :)
Hi,
Miners really enjoyed RT :clap:
 
Joined
Nov 11, 2016
Messages
3,393 (1.16/day)
System Name The de-ploughminator Mk-II
Processor i7 13700KF
Motherboard MSI Z790 Carbon
Cooling ID-Cooling SE-226-XT + Phanteks T30
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill DDR5 7200Cas34
Video Card(s) Asus RTX4090 TUF
Storage Kingston KC3000 2TB NVME
Display(s) 48" LG OLED C4
Case Corsair 5000D Air
Audio Device(s) KEF LSX II LT speakers + KEF KC62 Subwoofer
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Razor Death Adder v3
Keyboard Razor Huntsman V3 Pro TKL
Software win11
Good graphic don't make a bad game good, but it can make a good game legendary ;), Witcher 3 and RDR2 are prime examples of 10/10 games.
My grading scales:
Gameplay 30%
Storytelling 20%
Music 20%
Graphics 30%
 

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
12,996 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
Anime, manga, even Disney.

These are still being pursued as comic style, with no need, nor audience request for graphical realism. And while I do know the modern animation techniques are very advanced and use the same CGI tools 'live' action movies do, the point of fact is: Not looking photo-realistic is still a desireable effect. Photorealism is not the be all and end all of all visual artforms.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,300 (6.02/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Anime, manga, even Disney.

These are still being pursued as comic style, with no need, nor audience request for graphical realism. And while I do know the modern animation techniques are very advanced and use the same CGI tools 'live' action movies do, the point of fact is: Not looking photo-realistic is still a desireable effect. Photorealism is not the be all and end all of all visual artforms.
In gaming I would dare say not looking photorealistic has taken off in a big way the last five years - also enabled by newer engines and workflows.

Key driver? mobile phones and cross compatibility.

Good luck with that RTX push alongside that with unaffordable GPUs. And that answers why we dont see it anywhere other than triple a.

Its like the advocates of 'cloud gaming will eliminate local'... see you again in two decades, maybe.
 

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
In gaming I would dare say not looking photorealistic has taken off in a big way the last five years - also enabled by newer engines and workflows.

Key driver? mobile phones and cross compatibility.

Good luck with that RTX push alongside that with unaffordable GPUs. And that answers why we dont see it anywhere other than triple a.

Its like the advocates of 'cloud gaming will eliminate local'... see you again in two decades, maybe.
Funny how RT hardware is integrated into both Apple and Android SOCs.



 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
41,887 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2Ă—BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
In gaming I would dare say not looking photorealistic has taken off in a big way the last five years - also enabled by newer engines and workflows.

Key driver? mobile phones and cross compatibility.

Good luck with that RTX push alongside that with unaffordable GPUs. And that answers why we dont see it anywhere other than triple a.

Its like the advocates of 'cloud gaming will eliminate local'... see you again in two decades, maybe.
There will always be latency issues with cloud
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
8,980 (3.31/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
Does it Matter? Did anyone not enjoy Borderlands? Was Shadow of War good just because of the Gameplay? Torchlight is Graphically inferior to Diablo 3 but to me a better overall experience. That is the key. Pacman was cool but Ms Pacman looked better. Atari was cool but Colecovision looked better, the SNES was a jump in graphical quality that actually killed the Arcade. PS1 was nice but the PS3 was insane and when you join the PC MasterRace 4K or 1440P or 1080P is mitigated by Graphical Quality and Performance of your GPU. We are getting into mass production of 5K and higher displays and OLED panels will get brighter and more stable but the experience is still the key. So where are we? Graphics matter but Gameplay is more important depending on the type of Game. I want High resolution graphics on my Space Sims but can still load a nice session of Raiden. Division 2 is beautiful but so is Horizon Zero Dawn and Spiderman (God of War as well) may be the most Graphically stunning PC port ever. The next phase for most of us PC Gamers will be the innovations of Unreal Engine 5 in a Graphics regard.
 
Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
11,878 (2.22/day)
Location
Manchester uk
System Name RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s) Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s) Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s) Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD Oculus rift
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
Seems to be working as they have 85%+ marketshare and people who work with their GPUs laugh at anything that isn't NVIDIA :)

Precisely because of the software/hardware ecosystem BTW.
Partly because some push Nvidia's drivel add nauseum to whoever does or doesn't want to listen, the Nvidia fans can be deafening.

It's like owning a card makes you a shareholder or cheerleader or something.
 

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
13,162 (2.82/day)
Location
Concord, NH, USA
System Name Apollo
Processor Intel Core i9 9880H
Motherboard Some proprietary Apple thing.
Memory 64GB DDR4-2667
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2
Storage 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External
Display(s) Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays
Case MacBook Pro (16", 2019)
Audio Device(s) AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers
Power Supply 96w Power Adapter
Mouse Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard Logitech G915, GL Clicky
Software MacOS 12.1
Did anyone not enjoy Borderlands?
I didn't enjoy Borderlands. The graphics actually really turned me off to be honest. It's not really my kind of thing.
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
8,980 (3.31/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
I didn't enjoy Borderlands. The graphics actually really turned me off to be honest. It's not really my kind of thing.
Yes but they still made 4 of them but I hear you. Minecraft is a big no for me.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
41,887 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2Ă—BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Yes but they still made 4 of them but I hear you. Minecraft is a big no for me.
I always felt 8 bit style pixel Graphics in 3D shapes was boring to me.
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
8,980 (3.31/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
I always felt 8 bit style pixel Graphics in 3D shapes was boring to me.
Because we have been there when our imaginations did the rest. Like the Alligators in Pitfall.
 

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
Partly because some push Nvidia's drivel add nauseum to whoever does or doesn't want to listen, the Nvidia fans can be deafening.

It's like owning a card makes you a shareholder or cheerleader or something.
"drivel". I guess that covers just about every aspect of creating the digital media we all use and consume.

These photo examples just from NVIDIA, Microsoft with their mixed reality and US Gov/industry ties and most other major tech with actual vision like Apple, ARM or Meta also push hard in this direction of connected virtuality with AI/graphically intensive content (web 3.0, meta/omniverse etc.), with seemingly unanimous support from the big players.

Crazy how games pushed the innovation in 3D processing to this point, all of us PC and console gamers really just put in the capital to develop this GPU tech so we can appreciate our hobby in higher fidelity at faster framerates, and now that big money is being made we're benefitting, but also being somewhat priced out of our hobby. While I disagree with most of the sentiment about how "the old ways are fine" I can appreciate how some feel upset that the cost of entry to this playground is a lot more than it used to be. I just also appreciate how that resentment leads to bias about the new.

1672682333145.png

1672682223942.png
 
Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
11,878 (2.22/day)
Location
Manchester uk
System Name RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s) Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s) Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s) Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD Oculus rift
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
"drivel". I guess that covers just about every aspect of creating the digital media we all use and consume.

These photo examples just from NVIDIA, Microsoft with their mixed reality and US Gov/industry ties and most other major tech with actual vision like Apple, ARM or Meta also push hard in this direction of connected virtuality with AI/graphically intensive content (web 3.0, meta/omniverse etc.), with seemingly unanimous support from the big players.

Crazy how games pushed the innovation in 3D processing to this point, all of us PC and console gamers really just put in the capital to develop this GPU tech so we can appreciate our hobby in higher fidelity at faster framerates, and now that big money is being made we're benefitting, but also being somewhat priced out of our hobby. While I disagree with most of the sentiment about how "the old ways are fine" I can appreciate how some feel upset that the cost of entry to this playground is a lot more than it used to be. I just also appreciate how that resentment leads to bias about the new.

View attachment 277192
View attachment 277191
You can stick the metaverse where the sun doesn't shine.

Big companies pushed cloud gaming, those that are left can stick that in the same place.

Let's see where the nft scale shitshow that meta lands in gets them.

Big players don't seem to grasp that no one gives a shit about they're scaling ambitions besides them and the buy in they expected, isn't really happening.

I have a vr headset, it's killer app alyx came and went and it's still not mainstream IE where the cash is at.

Dream on shareholder.
 
Last edited:

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
You can stick the metaverse where the sun doesn't shine.

Big companies pushed cloud gaming, those that are left can stick that in the same place.

Let's see where the ntf scale shitshow that meta lands in gets them.

Big players don't seem to grasp that no one gives a shit about they're scaling ambitions besides them and the buy in they expected, isn't really happening.

I have a vr headset, it's killer app alyx came and went and it's still not mainstream IE where the cash is at.

Dream on shareholder.
Thanks for sharing :)
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
8,980 (3.31/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
You can stick the metaverse where the sun doesn't shine.

Big companies pushed cloud gaming, those that are left can stick that in the same place.

Let's see where the ntf scale shitshow that meta lands in gets them.

Big players don't seem to grasp that no one gives a shit about they're scaling ambitions besides them and the buy in they expected, isn't really happening.

I have a vr headset, it's killer app alyx came and went and it's still not mainstream IE where the cash is at.

Dream on shareholder.
This is exactly why I refuse to buy an Occulus headset. Even though I am a huge proponent of VR.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,300 (6.02/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Funny how RT hardware is integrated into both Apple and Android SOCs.




Oh but see, this is not where we are in opposition; I thought we had that abundantly clear. Your stance and point is clear, RT is the next best thing since sliced bread and it will change gaming forever. I disagree with that point. Right now, RT is first, foremost and primarily a tool for big budgets to move shitty games and overpriced product further into the attention span. Not a single game is however truly improved by the use of RT. Same game, same basic presentation, sans or with a few more dynamic lighting effects.

'Funny how' is not really apt, as if this is a victory post on the discussion we had :) If you read the bottom article, it says what I've said. Adoption will take many years, getting a GPU for it now is folly, and it will take its place alongside a host of other graphics technology some of which is mutually exclusive, while some isn't. RT effects are for the foreseeable future, a nice bonus, and lightyears away from a must have - if they ever reach that point. We're in a transitional period of undefined length, and it doesn't get shorter with the way RT product is pushed out currently.

The idea it somehow makes games easier to develop is however so out there, you really drank too much kool aid on that. History is your reality check. The toolkit expands, because no dev in its right mind will produce for RT capable GPUs alone. It only means more work. Devving games will be as it has been in all software. The scope roughly determines the hours you'll burn, and then you'll take much longer as planned anyway.

"drivel". I guess that covers just about every aspect of creating the digital media we all use and consume.

These photo examples just from NVIDIA, Microsoft with their mixed reality and US Gov/industry ties and most other major tech with actual vision like Apple, ARM or Meta also push hard in this direction of connected virtuality with AI/graphically intensive content (web 3.0, meta/omniverse etc.), with seemingly unanimous support from the big players.

Crazy how games pushed the innovation in 3D processing to this point, all of us PC and console gamers really just put in the capital to develop this GPU tech so we can appreciate our hobby in higher fidelity at faster framerates, and now that big money is being made we're benefitting, but also being somewhat priced out of our hobby. While I disagree with most of the sentiment about how "the old ways are fine" I can appreciate how some feel upset that the cost of entry to this playground is a lot more than it used to be. I just also appreciate how that resentment leads to bias about the new.

View attachment 277192
View attachment 277191
You really are in deep. Big tech is just running for the next best thing, as it has been doing since Google and Facebook struck gold with their ever evolving approach of using the internet to keep ahead of the law and common sense. All connected by a mighty network controlled by them. Its like owning the internet and all of its users' moves, fantastic! What I see is a massive interdependent clusterfuck of commercial gain.

This, like quite a few things now, is in a transitional period. This omni/metaverse is not something we should want. All connected by Huang's leather jacket, noty. It remains to be seen how far corporate gets the average guy with this bullshit. If NFT and crypto is any guide, not far. Maybe it will go the way of VR: interesting for businesses, not for the consumer/living room. Of course there is a place for new toolkits and stuff to evolve. But its also interesting to question the push that 'suddenly' happened here, and even more interesting is analyzing its fervent followers like you, who always are recent buyers of a product that carried the same marketing.

So far you've managed to handily talk around the problem of adoption rate by a 'its increasing', even though the market has proven that real adoption only happens when you reach the critical mass: mid range and below. RT in that area is nowhere, not even remotely, for current consoles its an afterthought, and its not like those are ubiquitous right now.

We'll get there, eventually, with RT. I said two decades. You say the time is now. We'll probably end up somewhere along the middle?
 
Last edited:

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
12,996 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
I'm here to keep balance in the force.

Playing a FPS RPG? I like realism. Therefore graphics do matter.

Playing Unravel (2D, side-scrolling platformer)? You can't actually implement things like RT in a meaningful way. In fact, a forced perspective negates some 3D rules.

People can forcefully push both agendas as much as they wish but the gaming reality falls somewhere in between. Folks need to take a walk and breathe a little air.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,300 (6.02/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
I didn't enjoy Borderlands. The graphics actually really turned me off to be honest. It's not really my kind of thing.
Here's another one. It was a funny gimmick, but never really helped immersion IMHO.

The numbers game in it though was enough to keep me going through 1 and 2. Not the DLC.
 

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader
Staff member
Joined
Dec 29, 2017
Messages
4,993 (1.99/day)
Location
Swansea, Wales
System Name Silent
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s) 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white
Audio Device(s) Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores Legendary
If you read the bottom article, it says what I've said. Adoption will take many years, getting a GPU for it now is folly, and it will take its place alongside a host of other graphics technology some of which is mutually exclusive, while some isn't.
So the smartphone article that mentioned you shouldn't run out to buy a new phone for ray tracing support means that getting a (PC) GPU for it now is folly? You sure you're not misreading that?

The idea it somehow makes games easier to develop is however so out there, you really drank too much kool aid on that. History is your reality check. The toolkit expands, because no dev in its right mind will produce for RT capable GPUs alone. It only means more work. Devving games will be as it has been in all software. The scope roughly determines the hours you'll burn, and then you'll take much longer as planned anyway.
It's literally so easy I can take an ancient game like oblivion, put it through one pass of RTX Remix, and have a ray traced game at the other end, with a few hours of work.

We'll see how well your take ages :)
 
Top