NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti to Launch $100 Cheaper Than RTX 4080 12 GB

[Godrilla]

I don't know how accurate this graph is.

But is says 2 things
There are more nvidia fanboys than AMD fanboys
and
Nvidia fanbois have more money


And if I was Jensen, and seen this graph I would double the price of all cards and laugh all the way to the bank.

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Once the supply overtakes the demand for the 4090s the prices should come down and the Nvidia will probably release the Ampere Titan cards to take advantage of their opportunities.

 

[anachron]

Surely at some point you'll realize the absurdity of your argument here, which is the following :

"My anecdotal experience of what I see proves that I am right, as opposed to the objective evidence you and everyone else can take a look at, which is wrong".

Cool, talk about worthless opinions. I actually think FSR looks like 8K native, because that's what I am seeing on my monitor in motion and no screenshots can prove me wrong.

I don't know if FSR look better than DLSS or not, but I have to agree with @wolf on the fact that some of the results of DLSS/FSR can not be seen on still screenshot. I don't know what would be the exact term to describe it, but there are artefacts/shimmering/whatever you want to call it that sometimes appear on the edge of moving objects when using DLSS or FSR, but will not appear when the camera is still and on screenshots since it's the results of discrepancies between multiple images.

 

[Godrilla]

GeForce now upgraded to rtx 4080 and dlss3.

Nvidia bringing RTX 4080s to GeForce Now with DLSS 3 and 240Hz mode support

Nvidia's game streaming service is also expanding to new regions across the globe.

www.pcgamer.com

FYI

 

[Vya Domus]

I don't know what would be the exact term to describe it, but there are artefacts/shimmering/whatever you want to call it that sometimes appear on the edge of moving objects when using DLSS or FSR, but will not appear when the camera is still and on screenshots since it's the results of discrepancies between multiple images.

Then simply watch video comparisons then, it will be in motion. And no, video compression is not going to make such comparison irrelevant, if some compression artifacts are going to make the comparison difficult then that means there weren't many differences there to being with.

 

[Hxx]

I don't know how accurate this graph is.

But is says 2 things
There are more nvidia fanboys than AMD fanboys
and
Nvidia fanbois have more money


And if I was Jensen, and seen this graph I would double the price of all cards and laugh all the way to the bank.

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Nvidia has waayyyy more market share than AMD so it would make perfect sense to have a bigger following. Not a surprise at all . In fact I’m pretty sure reading some comments on Reddit that so called amd fanboys are rooting for amd so they ca grab a discount on a GeForce card lol

 

[sephiroth117]

7900XTX is 14% slower than 4080 at RT. So even for people who are into RT gimmick, it's a non-argument.

DLSS3 as in "let me interpolate frames" (something that my TV can do on its own) will inevitably appear under FSR brand (and has major downsides anyhow)


That "with DLSS3" is needed to claim card being "faster than 3090Ti".


It is bonkers products like that are even being rolled out at $800. 3080 likely kicks it at 4k.

• It's more than 14%, don't use that one game, make an average.
• DLSS3 interpolation is not like your TV, it uses AI to perfect the interpolation.
  • It does have downsides yes, for instance input lags, so did DLSS2 sometimes (ghosting etc.)
• The 4070Ti is apparently as strong as a 3090ti if not slightly more according to the leaked 3D mark..no DLSS in 3D mark, but let's wait for independent reviews, a leak is not a reliable source, after all.
• 3080 likely kicks it at 4K ? we'll see once reviews are out once again..I greatly doubt it
• I think all current new GPUs, outside a 4090 which is unique in the market, marketed at more than 1000$ is bonker (or 800$ for a 70ti)

 

[medi01]

It's more than 14%,

No, it's exactly 14% per TPU average figures.

DLSS3 interpolation is not like your TV, it uses AI to perfect

I'm not even remotely clueless enough to take this sersiously.

It does have downsides yes, for instance input lags,

It does have donwsides, yes.. `

Like corrupt picture. Oh, and it happens most exactly when you need it: when fps is low.

4070Ti is apparently as strong as a 3090ti if not slightly more

Ah. Apparently.

 

[wolf]

I don't know if FSR look better than DLSS or not, but I have to agree with @wolf on the fact that some of the results of DLSS/FSR can not be seen on still screenshot

Thank you. It boggles my mind he ever argued the opposite, plus the strawman "oh so your argument is".. No. And after claiming my argument was absurd, turns around and accepts it the instant someone else agrees? never mind literally everyone else agreeing.. Some people man.

Surely at some point .... screenshots can prove me wrong.

Lets even look as simply as TPU's latest FSR VS DLSS comparison, for a start, why even include a video comparison if you can get everything you need to know from screenshots? Would you believe it, the author even says.

The video can help uncover issues like shimmering or temporal instability, which are not visible in the screenshots.

Or are the goalposts going to shift now rofl

 

[Dirt Chip]

GeForce now upgraded to rtx 4080 and dlss3.

Nvidia bringing RTX 4080s to GeForce Now with DLSS 3 and 240Hz mode support

Nvidia's game streaming service is also expanding to new regions across the globe.

www.pcgamer.com

FYI

At least someone is using those 4080..

 

[KrazedOmega]

I hear similar complaints from a lot of Europeans. Don't put that on Nvidia for your country's weak currency and outrageous taxes. That so called free medical isn't as free as some would like to think.

It's all on Nvidia. $800 USD is already overpriced.

 

[Why_Me]

It's all on Nvidia. $800 USD is already overpriced.

How much does the 3090 Ti sell for?

Enjoy.

 

[TechHalp]

Dear lord do you make it ever sound like you have some Nvidia stock you would like to increase in value.....NON of the new cards are the "go-to cards", that is an absolutely INSANE statement.
And Nvidia goodies? idk if you noticed but DLSS3 is pretty hit or miss atm, kinda like DLSS when it first came out.....no wait that was only miss.

Seriously man, looking at your other posts here as well, are you in Nvidia's pocket or just having a bad day or what?
"the 4080 doesnt have any defects" well it has the same connector which was a bit of an issue, and what defect does the 7900 xtx have? you mean that Derbauer vid of how some of the reference cooler designs have an issue with the vaporchamber? you extrapolate that to a defect for the 7900xtx in general? ignoring those that dont suffer from it not to mention partner cards with different coolers?

Honestly I could react to just about any of your posts on this thread man, again...idk if you are in Nvidia's pocket or what but man are you spewing some weird stuff.....



If that is a fact that there is nothing to "admit" really.
but do back it up with some facts then, how many games support DLSS and how many FSR?
In how many games does DLSS actually look better (and how much does that hold true if we exclude pixel peeping in direct comparisons?

Options? not even sure what you mean with that.

Performance, again, provide some benchmarks to back this up.

I am hard pressed to find a single game where DLSS looks or runs noticeably better. Do you have any such examples ? Also there seems to be more or less an equal amount of games coming out these days that support DLSS or FSR, some of them support both. FSR is easy to implement, the fact that there have been many games modded to support it proves that, any developer that doesn't add FSR but adds DLSS does so with a vested interest in promoting Nvidia products.

Watch digital foundries extremely extensive coverage on it, im not going to educate you. Google it. Use your eyes there are hundreds of comparisons. FSR has so many noticable artifacts.

NVIDIA DLSS is now available in over 200 games and apps, AMD FSR at 110 - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA DLSS support being added to more games, now over 200 games and apps supporting it AI-powered super resolution upscaler from NVIDIA is now available in over 200 released games and applications. NVIDIA made this major announcement this week. This July NVIDIA is adding DLSS to Loopmancer...

videocardz.com

 

[Vya Domus]

Watch digital foundries extremely extensive coverage on it

I have, the differences are small when the internal resolution is comparable.

im not going to educate you because youre lazy

Thank God, what would we do without randos on the internet telling us to educate ourselves by googling stuff, amazing stuff. No thanks bro, pigs will fly before you "educate" me.

You really have to be a special kind of selectively blind to think there are as many fsr games as dlss.

You really need to be selectively illiterate to not understand what I wrote. I never said there are as many games with FSR, how could there be, DLSS has been released in like 2018 and FSR in 2021. I said than in recent times a lot of games support it, it has been adopted at a much faster pace than DLSS.

And by the why this is without even mentioning that a lot of games can be modded unofficially to have FSR, it wouldn't surprise me that when you account for that there are way more games with FSR than DLSS.

 

[TechHalp]

I have, the differences are small when the internal resolution is comparable.


Thank God, what would we do without randos on the internet telling us to educate ourselves by googling stuff, amazing stuff. No thanks bro, pigs will fly before you "educate" me.


You really need to be selectively illiterate to not understand what I wrote. I never said there are as many games with FSR, how could there be, DLSS has been released in like 2018 and FSR in 2021. I said than in recent times a lot of games support it, it has been adopted at a much faster pace than DLSS.

And by the why this is without even mentioning that a lot of games can be modded unofficially to have FSR, it wouldn't surprise me that when you account for that there are way more games with FSR than DLSS.

"The differences are small"

Translation: its not as good.

"It wouldnt surprise me"

Translation: you have no idea if thats true at all

"If that is a fact that there is nothing to "admit" really.
but do back it up with some facts then, how many games support DLSS and how many FSR?"

You cant even back it up yourself, and now you backpeddle:

"I never said there are as many games with FSR"

And finally, completely unreasonable request because you can't back it up yourself, including omission of obvious evidence: "In how many games does DLSS actually look better (and how much does that hold true if we exclude pixel peeping in direct comparisons?"

oh no we couldn't directly compare, that wouldn't be fair.

Your argument holds no weight when you can use fsr with nvidia but you cant use dlss or frame generation with amd.

 

[Vya Domus]

"The differences are small"

Translation: its not as good.

And ?

"It wouldnt surprise me"

Translation: you have no idea if thats true at all

Yes, that's why I said that. Again, are you illiterate ?

You cant even back it up yourself, and now you backpeddle:

I didn't backpeddle, you are delusional, I literarily never said there are as many games with FSR, you are imagining things so the hyper fanboy in you can get triggered.

 

[wolf]

Your argument holds no weight when you can use fsr with nvidia but you cant use dlss or frame generation with amd.

Fully agreed, and yeah you just cant anything dlss with this one, just twisted logic and mental gymnastics.

All this from a person SO certain about DLSS's strengths, weaknesses, and absolute image quality (been said SO many times by reputable publications how it can exceed native...) without the ability to actually see anything with their own eyes on their own setup back to back against FSR. Something strongly tells me that opinion must be worthless. Hell earlier on in this very thread they argued they could see motion artefacts in stills... my lawd.