NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Launched at $799 with Performance Matching RTX 3090 Ti

[btarunr]

NVIDIA today formally launched the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti "Ada" performance segment graphics card at a starting MSRP of USD $799. Based on the 4 nm "AD104" silicon, the RTX 4070 Ti is essentially the same product as the RTX 4080 12 GB, which NVIDIA decided to cancel from its original mid-November launch, toward a new one this CES, under a new model name. The card maxes out the silicon it's based on, featuring 7,680 CUDA cores, 60 RT cores, 240 Tensor cores, 240 TMUs, and 80 ROPs. It gets 12 GB of GDDR6X memory across a 192-bit wide memory interface, running at 21 Gbps (GDDR6X-effective). The card has a typical power rating of 285 W, and continues to use a 12VHPWR power connector, even on the custom-design products.

NVIDIA claims that the RTX 4070 Ti should enable maxed out AAA gaming with ray tracing at 1440p, while also being formidable at 4K Ultra HD in games that can take advantage of technologies such as DLSS 3 frame-generation, or even classic DLSS 2. The company claims that it offers performance comparable to the previous-generation flagship, the GeForce RTX 3090 Ti "Ampere," with a much higher performance/Watt rating. The RTX 4070 Ti doesn't appear to feature an NVIDIA Founders Edition model, and is a partner-driven launch, with custom-design cards dominating the scene. The RTX 4070 Ti will be available from January 5, 2023, but we'll have reviews for you before that!



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[eidairaman1]

Still overpriced

 

[birdie]

Let me steal a VC comment:

3060ti - 45% of cores, 40% slower than the 3090, $400
4070ti - 42% of cores, 40% slower than the 4090, $800
Pay twice that much because of the wrong sticker on a card

 

[RedelZaVedno]

"Performance Matching RTX 3090 Ti"​

Based on what benchmarks? Haven't seen a thing in their presentation to collaborate this claim. All the Jeff was bubbling about was DLSS3 fakery.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Guess TPU is going to beat this dog to death

 

[ARF]

Still overpriced

Send a complaint to the federal antitrust division to check the cartel and price fixing.
Antitrust Division | USAGov

The company claims this, the company claims that...

Reality check: RTX 3080 performance: 100% for $699 MSRP
RTX 4070 Ti performance: 115% for $799 MSRP

 

[Ayhamb99]

Still overpriced

At this point I believe it is best when the time comes that i have to upgrade from my 2060, a used 3060 Ti/3070/3080 or 6800/6800 XT is the better choice than RTX 4000 ox RX 7000s....

If the 4070 Ti is now priced at $800, a $200 increased in MSRP from the 3070 Ti which was $600, then I'd imagine the 4070 will be in the ballpark of $600-$700 and the 4060 Ti being around $500-$600, absolute ridiculous prices

Maybe AMD can still bring the fight back in the mid-range but tbh i wasn't that impressed with the 7900 XTX/7900 XT (7900 XTX Should have been the 7900 XT and the 7900 XT should have been the 7800 XT) so i am not sure about the mid-range RDNA 3 GPUs

This generation is going to be unimpressive

 

[birdie]

The worst thing about the 4070 Ti is that reviewers will ... praise the card because in terms of the bang for the buck is a ton better than RTX 4080 and a little bit better than RTX 4090 and people will read it as, "OK, inflation and sh*t but the card is the "best" RTX 40 series card, so, sigh, let's go get it".

As a result it will ... sell out, NVIDIA will realize people are OK with the new pricing which means PC gaming has taken a huge hit and future GPUs will never cost less, only more. And AMD is seemingly happy to oblige and price their cards accordingly. Gone are the days of actual competition in the GPU market.

2023 onward promises to become even worse for PC gaming than 2021/2022 were even with COVID and mining.

@W1zzard

I sure hope you will not praise the card or its pricing. I know it's power efficient, I know it can be faster than RTX 3090 Ti in select RT titles.

It's bloody expensive/overpriced for what people used to get for decades. NVIDIA has lost their mind. Please talk about that loudly. It's not a new norm. It's a daylight robbery. This is a tiny chip, much smaller than 3060 Ti.

 

[KrazyT]

Well, in my country, a 3080 MSI Gaming Z Trio cost (in a non so cheap online shop) 980€.
And it's not even a 3090 Ti ...

 

[Frick]

Well, in my country, a 3080 MSI Gaming Z Trio cost (in a non so cheap online shop) 980€.
And it's not even a 3090 Ti ...

Yeah. A shop here has a 3070ti on a sale for >€700. 3060ti for the low low price of €519.

 

[ThrashZone]

Well, in my country, a 3080 MSI Gaming Z Trio cost (in a non so cheap online shop) 980€.
And it's not even a 3090 Ti ...

Hi,
Which version 12 or 16gb ?

Oops my bad 10-12gb

 

[ARF]

Hi,
Which version 12 or 16gb ?

10 GB or 12 GB. A 3080 has no 16 GB version. That's probably a 3080 Ti.

edit: 3080 Ti is also 12 GB only!

 

[HaKN !]

Welp RIP to EU prices. the RTX 3080(10gb) still costs 1.1k+ usd here. And here i thought i overpaid for my rx6900xt for 595usd brand new with a WB

 

[ARF]

And here i thought i overpaid for my rx6900xt for 595usd brand new with a WB

This is actually a very good purchase! Enjoy it!

 

[Rowanero]

At this point I believe it is best when the time comes that i have to upgrade from my 2060, a used 3060 Ti/3070/3080 or 6800/6800 XT is the better choice than RTX 4000 ox RX 7000s....

If the 4070 Ti is now priced at $800, a $200 increased in MSRP from the 3070 Ti which was $600, then I'd imagine the 4070 will be in the ballpark of $600-$700 and the 4060 Ti being around $500-$600, absolute ridiculous prices

Maybe AMD can still bring the fight back in the mid-range but tbh i wasn't that impressed with the 7900 XTX/7900 XT (7900 XTX Should have been the 7900 XT and the 7900 XT should have been the 7800 XT) so i am not sure about the mid-range RDNA 3 GPUs

This generation is going to be unimpressive

I went for an XTX 6800XT (600€ w/tax - 500$ without) and I won't look back. 3090 Performance in DX12 Raster for 600... If you're only gaming it's a no brainer. It's actually almost reasonable.
All the while, 3080 10Gb are selling here for 950€+ and 4080 for 1450€+. Vote with your wallet.

 

[Argyr]

maxed out AAA gaming with ray tracing at 1440p

sweet, exactly what I need, nothing more.

Welp RIP to EU prices. the RTX 3080(10gb) still costs 1.1k+ usd here. And here i thought i overpaid for my rx6900xt for 595usd brand new with a WB

RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X PLUS 10G OC - cheapest 3080 in my country, price is exactly 1k EUR

 

[W1zzard]

for what people used to get for decades

Are you talking about product names or actual performance? I'm not aware of anything comparable that has ever existed that does what NVIDIA claims the 4070 Ti will do, at the price that NVIDIA claims?

 

[ARF]

Are you talking about product names or actual performance? I'm not aware of anything comparable that has ever existed that does what NVIDIA claims the 4070 Ti will do, at the price that NVIDIA claims?

I am not impressed at all. 10-15% over RTX 3080. And this should be compared apples-to-apples with the 10 and 12 GB versions, not with any 24 GB card that in the long run will run circles over it.
VRAM limitation incoming.

 

[xorbe]

My next gpu purchase will be limited to $500 even if it's a performance downgrade (pretty much guaranteed it seems). Enough of spiraling the prices as fast as possible. $800 for what's effectively a x60 Ti class card, lol.

 

[Argyr]

VRAM limitation incoming.

speculation, nothing more

x60 Ti class card

nice internet meme, with no foundation in reality, only some negative emotions and financial angst

 

[birdie]

Are you talking about product names or actual performance? I'm not aware of anything comparable that has ever existed that does what NVIDIA claims the 4070 Ti will do, at the price that NVIDIA claims?

Both. Previous 70 (Ti) class NVIDIA GPUs never cost so much and in terms of performance the performance of 4070 Ti is not something we haven't seen before on many occasions.

GTX 970 was as fast as 780 Ti.
GTX 1070 was as fast 980 Ti.
GTX 3070 was as fast as 2080 Ti.

None of them cost even close to $800. And NVIDIA claims this is a "Ti" class card which should be faster than it is.

 

[docnorth]

The worst thing about the 4070 Ti is that reviewers will ... praise the card because in terms of the bang for the buck is a ton better than RTX 4080 and a little bit better than RTX 4090 and people will read it as, "OK, inflation and sh*t but the card is the "best" RTX 40 series card, so, sigh, let's go get it".

As a result it will ... sell out, NVIDIA will realize people are OK with the new pricing which means PC gaming has taken a huge hit and future GPUs will never cost less, only more. And AMD is seemingly happy to oblige and price their cards accordingly. Gone are the days of actual competition in the GPU market.

2023 onward promises to become even worse for PC gaming than 2021/2022 were even with COVID and mining.

@W1zzard

I sure hope you will not praise the card or its pricing. I know it's power efficient, I know it can be faster than RTX 3090 Ti in select RT titles.

It's bloody expensive/overpriced for what people used to get for decades. NVIDIA has lost their mind. Please talk about that loudly. It's not a new norm. It's a daylight robbery. This is a tiny chip, much smaller than 3060 Ti.

Agree, except for the last phrase. The chip is indeed smaller than 3060 ti, but the number of transistors is double. Still overpriced anyway.

 

[john_]

The title is obviously copied from Nvidia's announcement and about every site out there uses the same title. Some point at the use of DLSS 3.0 others don't.

The thing is that this is the first step in embracing DLSS 3.0 (and latter FSR 3.0 and who knows maybe XeSS 3.0) as a valid way of increasing framerate.
Fake frames? Nope, soon they will just be frames.

 

[mb194dc]

Yeah, call me when it's $400.

 

[Denver]

"Based on the 4 nm "AD104" silicon, the RTX 4070 Ti is essentiall"

This information is not entirely correct. The chip is not produced in 4nm. 4N is just a custom/optimized version of 5nm.