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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Launched at $799 with Performance Matching RTX 3090 Ti

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I didn't see any $799 launches reviewed here today.
 
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1. 12 GB VRAM
12 GB is fine, as evident in the reviews at TPU. Not a single game benchmarked at 4K show this card fall behind due to VRAM size. Claiming 12 GB VRAM is a bottleneck for this card would be some first class FUD.

2. Performance expectation by users for this price tier was somewhat higher - so the product is overpriced and underperforms. AMD doesn't matter.
Performance expectations by (some) users isn't a objective metric. The same argument can be used in virtually any discussion.
This card beats RX 7900 XT in performance per Dollar (MSRP).
 
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I browse the tpu forum only. Take a close look at reviews and news section(leading manufacter of or that like every tech company was a god saviour). Tpu its the most anti consumer website out there - just buy its the best and shut up. Also many posts on forum are fake and promote buying overpriced stuff. Once i saw how one guy wanted to cancel 4080 order because of backhlash from other users....and gues what? This wozzard advice him to buy that scam product anyway. Dont trust anything you read here especially reviews!

I can't even... what are you on about mate? W1zz and all of the TPU reviewers are legit. Sure, they have a vested interest in ensuring that people will buy something - it's ultimately down to us, consumers, to step up and say no, a reviewer will not do this unless the product is so miserable it has no place in the market at all.

This RTX 4070 Ti is such a product, not that it even matters - I never buy GPUs on such a low segment to begin with, I only buy the fastest model every generation... and it coincides that this is the first generation in my 16 year history with gaming PCs that it is not reasonable or sensible to do so - all the while it dangerously borders on "I can't afford it" territory either. No good, no good at all!

AMD's 7900 XTX is the only solution for the time being, unless a miracle happens and NVIDIA releases an RTX 4080 Ti being identical to an RTX 4090 but with just 12 GB of memory for $1200, which is just not going to happen.

I didn't see any $799 launches reviewed here today.

More and more these so-called MSRPs are only available for first-party cards in authorized retailers within the continental United States and NOWHERE ELSE. Add 100-300 USD for AIB designs, plus taxes worldwide.
 
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You cant compare the price of a Halo Product to a **70Ti. Halo products have their own pricing which is usually unreasonable because its the best. Just because it comes in as fast or slower for cheaper does not mean its good value.
Why? I remeber when the 970 came out it was compared with the Titan and 780Ti
 
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RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000 USD


and thus Jay has earned back all respect with me

I feel EXACTLY like he does towards the end of the video
 
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All 4070ti models here listed (not available though) are all over 1200 cad.
 
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Early April Fool's joke this one...

Please people, don't give in to temptation. Please skip the 40XX series cards.

Vote with your wallets.

Steve from GN did a much better video. Jay is cool and all but sometimes he gives me a lot of nVidia fanboy vibes. XD
 
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The worst thing about the 4070 Ti is that reviewers will ... praise the card because in terms of the bang for the buck is a ton better than RTX 4080 and a little bit better than RTX 4090 and people will read it as, "OK, inflation and sh*t but the card is the "best" RTX 40 series card, so, sigh, let's go get it".

As a result it will ... sell out, NVIDIA will realize people are OK with the new pricing which means PC gaming has taken a huge hit and future GPUs will never cost less, only more. And AMD is seemingly happy to oblige and price their cards accordingly. Gone are the days of actual competition in the GPU market.

2023 onward promises to become even worse for PC gaming than 2021/2022 were even with COVID and mining.

@W1zzard

I sure hope you will not praise the card or its pricing. I know it's power efficient, I know it can be faster than RTX 3090 Ti in select RT titles.

It's bloody expensive/overpriced for what people used to get for decades. NVIDIA has lost their mind. Please talk about that loudly. It's not a new norm. It's a daylight robbery. This is a tiny chip, much smaller than 3060 Ti.
What about AMD...are they mother Teresa???
 
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Official MSI store on Amazon lists for USD$1299.
 
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Official MSI store on Amazon lists for USD$1299.

And for the Ventus no less... :shadedshu:

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Early April Fool's joke this one...

Please people, don't give in to temptation. Please skip the 40XX series cards.
And 7900 series too, right?

I got the 4070ti available at my local BB $850. I aint buying it just saying
 
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Scan in the UK got loads of 4070 ti, Cheapest is £860 including 20% UK VAT ($ price should be similar I think). My guess is they'll enjoy the year gathering dust on the shelves...:


Also got plenty of 4090 and 4080. From what I've seen these cards always been available in the UK for not too much over AIB MSRP.

Available day one here in Brazil. Costlier than 7900 XTX on average. What a raw deal.
 
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And 7900 series too, right?

I got the 4070ti available at my local BB $850. I aint buying it just saying
Yeah I'm just gonna sit tight until it hits $700 soon, if it doesn't, will wait for 3nm instead. Inexcusable that NVidia had 2.7x scaling to work with and didn't deliver something twice as good for the same price imo.
 
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Matches 3090Ti*

*10% slower at 4k
 
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Yeah I'm just gonna sit tight until it hits $700 soon, if it doesn't, will wait for 3nm instead. Inexcusable that NVidia had 2.7x scaling to work with and didn't deliver something twice as good for the same price imo.

I cant help but feel like theyre purposely holding out for greed.
 
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Good product, dumb price. Which is RTX 40 in a nutshell. Aside from the 4090, nothing in this generation is worth buying.

AMD is not any better, as the 7900 XT should've been at least a 7800 XT and the 7900 "XTX" should've been the 7900 XT. And the pricing on their parts is also outlandish.
 
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So crazy. I remember 2008/2009 flagships we're $599 and second & 3rd best were 299-349$(8800 Ultra, 8800GTS) I don't believe costs of everything has doubled since then yet second/3rd best, rtx 4070 Ti is more than double. Crazy
 
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So crazy. I remember 2008/2009 flagships we're $599 and second & 3rd best were 299-349$(8800 Ultra, 8800GTS) I don't believe costs of everything has doubled since then yet second/3rd best, rtx 4070 Ti is more than double. Crazy

SUCKS DOESN'T IT!!!

not long ago... in a far away galaxy, when i picked up a 1080 TI, i knew i was being bent over and shafted but remained positive prices would eventually fall to some given market dynamic. Boy was I wrong! Nowadays everything is getting the flagship cockyship treatment with NVIDIA paving the way for a never-ending post-pandemic/crypto surge in pricing. 40-series is nothing short of a habitually gradual shift in performance from one generation to the next... only we'll have to just put up with the $$$+^+^ nonsense and settle with whatever our budget permits. Initially I was totally hyped for the 40-series release but the MSRPs just didnt cut it. AMD couldn't resist either and also got thrown in the no-thank-you bin of failed end-2022/2023 aspirations. Although indecisive, I'm currently eyeing up a used 3080 to replace my 2080 TI... *might* get a good deal on it.
 
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Although indecisive, I'm currently eyeing up a used 3080 to replace my 2080 TI... *might* get a good deal on it.
Not worth it.
We have to be looking at 3090Ti+ level of performance.
Meaning 4070Ti, 4080, 4090, 7900XTX.
I am tempted to go for 4070Ti. It can be found at 799 pounds....
 
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I really believed that after the mining crash and having a ton of 3000 cards all over would force Nvidia to lower the price for the 4000 series cards......I was wrong.
 
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I really believed that after the mining crash and having a ton of 3000 cards all over would force Nvidia to lower the price for the 4000 series cards......I was wrong.
Prices really depends on demand and supply. In the case of the current gen GPUs, you can clearly tell that both Nvidia and AMD and deliberately limiting supply so that prices are not under pressure to drop. The fact that Nvidia was able to release 200K RTX 4090, but a significantly smaller number of RTX 4080 is a clear sign they are trying to limit supply. After all, the RTX 4080 is a less complex chip to produce and they should be able to get more chips out of a single wafer than the AD102. Nvidia knows that people will still buy their cards due to high prices, just like they observed during the COVID period + mining craze. The same can be said for AMD, but I feel AMD is more willing to discount their GPUs.

Good product, dumb price. Which is RTX 40 in a nutshell. Aside from the 4090, nothing in this generation is worth buying.

AMD is not any better, as the 7900 XT should've been at least a 7800 XT and the 7900 "XTX" should've been the 7900 XT. And the pricing on their parts is also outlandish.
Regardless of the naming/ model, it will not affect pricing. Assuming they name the RX 7900 XT to a 7800 XT, it does not mean they will charge you a RX 6800 XT price. You can see this first hand with Nvidia’s RTX 4080.
 
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