Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Mussels]

My system can pass prime95. But cinebench23 went boom due to the power kernel.

It happens when it starts or when the power goes from nil to a lot.

R23 is AVX load which is higher power draw

I see, even the OCCT errors i can't really replicate, can be 3 times in a row after 1s but then 5 times nothing for 5 minutes, so really random. I did get one of those yeah, when the test ended it just rebooted.

I've settled for CCD1 all cores on -20 and CCD2 all cores on -15 for now, a bit better than all core -13 i ran for a month.

Did some tweaks to the RAM timings & voltages and have to run memtest & TM5 again to see if it TM5 still gets errors after 2 hours while karhu doesn't after 5 hours.

I guess as long as i don't get crashes while gaming or after gaming / while launching a game (Steam client seems suspicious), i'll consider it stable, like @Space Lynx said.

Your CO voltages are too low, or your SoC voltage is too low/IF clocked too high

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

I'm here to gate crash the Zen garden - got two X3D systems on order for work

Also the emoji works way better than it should

Damn it I'm talking like Mussels.

So I followed y'all's advice on the parts and have a couple of nice systems on order - might make a thread when they get here, IDK.

The joys of working in a small business I get the ideal system even if mine has to be on its last legs to get a new one.

 

[Mussels]

I'm pretty sure the multiple short sentences is an ADHD thing, sorry it's contagious. (Even the sub-thoughts in brackets are part of it)

 

[freeagent]

Lol.

Its because we spend too much time in front of a screen. I am not talking lately, just cumulative

 

[mechtech]

I'm here to gate crash the Zen garden - got two X3D systems on order for work

Also the emoji works way better than it should

Damn it I'm talking like Mussels.

So I followed y'all's advice on the parts and have a couple of nice systems on order - might make a thread when they get here, IDK.

The joys of working in a small business I get the ideal system even if mine has to be on its last legs to get a new one.

In an Aussie accent with all their weird slang words??

Sometimes I catch myself saying spanneR or torch or earthing or thongs in an Aussie accent........well bound to happen working with a bunch of Aussie miners for almost a year.

 

[Mussels]

In an Aussie accent with all their weird slang words??

I confused the teenagers around here talking in texas slang thanks to all my gaming with JC316


Oh oh oh my housemate got an official themed razer gaming chair, but not razer branded. The actual brand is even bettererer.

And at the risk of going off topic, this is an image i find extremely hilarious
This is her sitting in the chair

She is not tall.

 

[igralec84]

Your CO voltages are too low, or your SoC voltage is too low/IF clocked too high

You're right as 5 runs with CO off all passed, but with CO on 4 out of 5 rebooted). Only recently raised IF from 2000 to 2067 to see if it works as it usually didn't.

I see you can do customs runs of 3Dmark Cpu profile, i'll do some single thread runs try to find out if it's a specific thread/core that almost always crashes and reduce the CO on it. It's probably one of the -20 CCD1 cores as it would be smart from the program to use one of them for best results.

 

[Arco]

R23 is AVX load which is higher power draw

Any ideas? (I'm really a complete beginner in real PC stuff.)

Edit: Probably a good idea to include any bios settings.

Auto OC, Plus all core curves, and EXPO 6000@CL36. 7950x on a X670E Steel Legend.

 

[Mussels]

Any ideas? (I'm really a complete beginner in real PC stuff.)

It just means the overclock or undervolt isn't stable

you need higher voltages or lower clocks, on whatever you've changed

 

[Arco]

It just means the overclock or undervolt isn't stable

you need higher voltages or lower clocks, on whatever you've changed

Thanks, I'll check out some videos on youtube and see what I can do. The worst case is to turn off Auto OC.

 

[igralec84]

Wow i just spent 1,5h testing single thread in CPU profile and it seems PBO +100 is the reason thread 5 aka core 2 crashes. Tried CO -20 to +10, also set the RAM to XMP 5600 and also the 4800, but it didn't matter, it was the PBO +100.

Haven't had a single crash with a questionable 6000 CL30 tight RAM OC and PBO +100, CO -12 all core in 160+ hours of gaming though. All the pies and OCCT, corecycler, geekbench, CB and the lot also seemed to not have any issues at all CCD1 CO-20, CCD2 CO -15 so yeah... lohk like 3Dmark CPU Profile single thread run is a b*tch

 

[Mussels]

Hah, i dunno if they added more CPUs or just the new ones - but they gave full details on the x3D memory support

 

[freeagent]

Okay! So I took a razorblade to my 2 month old X3D..

I think I have the pins straight enough for an insertion.. its hard to tell though, my eyes are not as good as they used to be.

After this post I am going to power down the rig and test my luck.

I am using AS Ceramique II this time, hopefully the CPU wont stick!

 

[3x0]

Okay! So I took a razorblade to my 2 month old X3D..

At first I thought you're going to delid the sucker

 

[freeagent]

At first I thought you're going to delid the sucker

Nope I just had to shimmy some pins

My X3D runs so cool right now that I don’t need fans on my cpu

Good news!

Hopefully she works

 

[Veseleil]

At first I thought you're going to delid the sucker

Me too.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Hopefully she works

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[freeagent]

Inquiring minds want to know.

She still works, all good

Not my best of course, but not bad for a first boot

 

[Mussels]

Okay! So I took a razorblade to my 2 month old X3D..

I think I have the pins straight enough for an insertion.. its hard to tell though, my eyes are not as good as they used to be.

After this post I am going to power down the rig and test my luck.

I am using AS Ceramique II this time, hopefully the CPU wont stick!

I had to remove the heatsink from my 3700x earlier

It had liquid metal that had basically soldered itself on, I had to push down to prevent it from just yeeting the CPU out, and tap the fecker with a rubber mallet to break the seal

She was TIGHT

B450-I strix is dead, cant find an ITX replacement so that's just a pile of sadness right now

GTX 1080, 1070 and 1070Ti with a tri SLI capable mobo AND THEY CANT SLI

Lil' Red ITX LAN Hood is out for the count, she's been gutted as an organ donor

Bad ideas only build is in full swing again
We have:

Logitech K400+ keyboard and trackpad for it's excellent gaming performance
5800x at stock settings
Be quiet dark rock slim with liquid metal TIM
AX370 Gaming 5 (For it's age it's done EXTREMELY well with BIOS updates) - RGB locked to red, with the RAM
4x8GB mismatched RAM at 3333MT/s - two samsung, two hynix and paired wrong so the RGB ones are side by side. Still works.
GTX 1080 with liquid metal off a pigtail power cable because the other power cable was lost
Some random second hand PSU missing most of its cables
2x200m rainbow vomit intakes
120mm locked to green exhaust
2x140mm fractal white top exhaust fans

PC wasn't connected to internet, so f*ck you i took photos of a curved monitor while heaven was running

CPU sat at 4.5GHz all core in CPU-Z's multi threaded bench at about 75C, which IMO is a fantastic result for auto settings on 120mm air

 

[freeagent]

Sorry to hear you lost your board.. RIP.

 

[trparky]

Just built a Ryzen 7 7700X-based system.

 

[tpa-pr]

Built my first gaming rig in 10 years in Oct '22 (specs are in my profile) with the 7700X as the CPU. I'd been thinking about building a rig for a while (especially since I had a friend who has been badgering me for the better part of two years to do so). Saw the new chips get announced the day before payday and abandoned my original budget of $2500AUD to go "screw it" and spend a cool $5100AUD on it instead. I had to wait a month for the board to come into stock but then everything arrived, I built it on a Friday night and pretty much played games all weekend on it. I think I got about 4 hours sleep total over two days. I haven't worried about OC/UV or any of the other fancy features AM5 offers (nor have any interest), this is just stock and defaults.

This thing is absolutely fantastic. It never skips a beat, it never has a problem, it never struggles with my meagre 1080p@60 gaming needs. I have had a grand total of two times the chip has exhibited any stress:
- On a particularly hot day with a shoddy build of RPCS3, it got to 94C for about 30 seconds and then levelled out at 90C flat.
- I was creating a 7z archive for one of my backups while playing Elden Ring and got some stutter (temp stayed low though).

And this is with the cooler running a single fan because I couldn't fit the rear fan over the top of the chipset heatsink (I think that's what that is, it has the bird logo LED and appears to be a solid chunk of aluminum). Otherwise the chip will float between 60-75C under load (80 or so if emulating in RPCS3) and just plod along without any issues. Spending my two-week Christmas break in front of this thing actually made it jarring to go back to my work laptop, I have to wait for programs to open now?!

I'm hoping this chip will last me at least 7-10 years. I'm stuck in the late 2010s with gaming, peak quality to me is 1080p@60. I've tried and have no interest in anything beyond that and i've been gaming on laptops until that point, so this rig is spoiling me. The only concern I had was with the way the not-throttling works but some kind folks here explained it me so now I'm less worried, especially since it has to be an extreme circumstance for the chip to even get close to the required temps.

Overall, extremely happy with my purchase, would recommend

 

[Space Lynx]

Why is ryzen 5800x3d considered to be so good? How do we know its not just a handful of selected games that see big gains in FPS?

I just watched this video here... I don't know... I got a ryzen 5600 at a 4.7 all core for $129 - and it matches and beats the 5800x3d in several games. At first I was skeptical this video was accurate, but then it showed games like Watch Dogs Legion and the 5800x3d smothering the non-x3d chips, which is accurate... but still that's only only one of a handful of games in reviews I have read... not sure if 5800x3d is worth $215 more... (I only looked at the 1440p benchmarks)

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Why is ryzen 5800x3d considered to be so good? How do we know its not just a handful of selected games that see big gains in FPS?

I just watched this video here... I don't know... I got a ryzen 5600 at a 4.7 all core for $129 - and it matches and beats the 5800x3d in several games. At first I was skeptical this video was accurate, but then it showed games like Watch Dogs Legion and the 5800x3d smothering the non-x3d chips, which is accurate... but still that's only only one of a handful of games in reviews I have read... not sure if 5800x3d is worth $215 more... (I only looked at the 1440p benchmarks)

Trust the W1zzard:

If the 5600X is faster I would guess it is something to do with RAM that is cache-insensitive.

 

[Space Lynx]

Trust the W1zzard:

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If the 5600X is faster I would guess it is something to do with RAM that is cache-insensitive.

that screenshot is from the video. so I am going to guess that video is just not accurate. I trust W1zz's reviewing techniques. so ok, fair enough.