EK Announces Direct Die Cooling for Intel 12th and 13th Gen Core Processors

Vya Domus · Jan 12, 2023

fevgatos said:
They make a lot of them. 13900t is a 35w CPU

So direct your hatred to amd since their high end offerring comes at 240w, 6x times more power than 13900t's power draw

Uhm...

What ?

natr0n · Jan 12, 2023

None noticed the glob of liquid metal thats kinda concerning...

Eliad Buchnik · Jan 12, 2023

Vya Domus said:
Uhm...

What ?

What he meant to say there are low-power variants, and it is not just an Intel issue but also AMD.
As a matter of fact, we are long away from the days when top power consumption was in the 90s of watts.
The improvement in manufacturing is not as it used to be, and it affects power consumption as well.
Just to clarify something - you can cut the power consumption by a lot if you limit it, it would just cost you a few 100s of Mhz from the CPU frequency.
In other words, modern CPUs are pushed beyond the point of diminishing returns so they could be more competitive.

VSG · Jan 12, 2023

maxfly said:
Sweet idea but damn the price is stupid. $75 for the ihs removal tool? Wtaf? 2 bills for the plastic block? Nope. Won't do plexi topped EK CPU blocks again. Never want to hear that awful CRACK again.

If our man @VSG was able to keep the Velocity2 he reviewed we might be able to see some reviews nonetheless. I'd still like to see what kind of temp drops you might get with say a 13700k...aw hell. Does VSG have AM4 or 1700?

I have the block but no spare CPU to de-lid to be honest. The I9-12900K I used for recent CPU block reviews is a loaner from Intel so I can't just remove the IHS. I did do something similar on an older CPU with my personal CPU though: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/delidding-the-intel-core-i7-7700k/

skizzo · Jan 12, 2023

so $75 for the delidder seems like a kick in the nuts. I used to stick CPUs in one of my vices so one side is against I guess PCB and the other side against just the IHS and then tighten the shit outta them until POP goes the IHS lol

JustBenching · Jan 12, 2023

Vya Domus said:
Uhm...

What ?

What part of "Intel has a 24core 35w CPU called 13900t" did you not understand? You are repeating the same nonsense in every intel and nvdia thread. CPUs and GPUs draw as much power as you allow them to. You dont want your 13900k to draw 500 watts and require a direct die? GREAT, power limit it to 125 watts. Problem solved

ThrashZone · Jan 12, 2023

Eliad Buchnik said:
I have, the big issue with monoblock is the VRM section and the fact it forces you to completely disassemble the motherboard to install/uninstall the monoblock.
This might not be the case.

Hi,
Yep if one doesn't cut part of the back of the case so they can get to the vrm screws "been there and done this just to change thermal paste lol" yes you have to remove the board to install and uninstall
This is definitely not an issue with the ek block this thread is about.

Not directed to you EB,
It's just surprising so many have focused more to the words "mono block" rather than "style mount" the later is what I was referring to because they both share this similarity
Owe well you can lead a horse to water but can't fores them to drink :cool:

ZoneDymo · Jan 13, 2023

fevgatos said:
What part of "Intel has a 24core 35w CPU called 13900t" did you not understand? You are repeating the same nonsense in every intel and nvdia thread. CPUs and GPUs draw as much power as you allow them to. You dont want your 13900k to draw 500 watts and require a direct die? GREAT, power limit it to 125 watts. Problem solved

The problem is that you make it a versus argument.... Read their original statement again and you will hopefully notice they were talking about CPUs in general and Intel was never mentioned....sooo yeah...

Totally · Jan 13, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Never installed a mono block have you

I have 2 installed and in use and a third that's just collecting dust. A Monoblock just combined two separate blocks (vrm and cpu) into one MONOlithic waterBLOCK. "Mount style" are you referring to stand-offs? The things just a very large number tower heatsinks, non-cpu waterblocks use to mount to the mobo?

MKRonin · Jan 13, 2023

Can someone define the term "product raster" for me?

The Von Matrices · Jan 13, 2023

How does such a delidding tool even work? I thought that the IHS was soldered so you would have to heat it up, and that would melt the plastic.

Solaris17 · Jan 13, 2023

The Von Matrices said:
How does such a delidding tool even work? I thought that the IHS was soldered so you would have to heat it up, and that would melt the plastic.

You pre-heat then remove though I dont know about the KS (should in a few days) in any case with the rokitcool it doesnt hurt them. Its not like 2ltr soda plastic. It can take the contact heat.

ThrashZone · Jan 13, 2023

The Von Matrices said:
How does such a delidding tool even work? I thought that the IHS was soldered so you would have to heat it up, and that would melt the plastic.

Hi,
Well it's a slow process
The delid tool only pushes the top a little bit
Then you remove the chip and flip the chip and repeat and it can take more than a few flips before the solder breaks loose enough to be removed.

Then you remove the solder.

Chaitanya · Jan 13, 2023

Dyatlov A said:
Looks very well and if Drausser is involved it can only be very good. Hope we can see some reviews soon too.

Here you go, Der8auers review:

Ahhzz · Jan 14, 2023

Stick to the OT, everyone. Quit carrying on petty little bickerings all over the forums, and start acting like you've not actually just stepped off the playground.

Durvelle27 · Jan 16, 2023

Has delidding gotten easier

I remember a time when it was make it or break it

Solaris17 · Jan 16, 2023

Durvelle27 said:
Has delidding gotten easier

I remember a time when it was make it or break it

You can still break it. For these chips you have to pre-heat them.

Durvelle27 · Jan 16, 2023

Solaris17 said:
You can still break it. For these chips you have to pre-heat them.

Didn't all of them require pre-heating to soften bonding material. I think the biggest problem was damaging transistors or cracking the die.

Solaris17 · Jan 16, 2023

Durvelle27 said:
Didn't all of them require pre-heating to soften bonding material. I think the biggest problem was damaging transistors or cracking the die.

It was and there are still really close.

Durvelle27 · Jan 16, 2023

Solaris17 said:
It was and there are still really close.

Times have truly changed

ThrashZone · Jan 16, 2023

Hi,
Yep no more pigeon poop "thermal paste" inside anymore :laugh:

System Name	Good enough
Processor	AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard	ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling	2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory	32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage	1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s)	LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	GPS-750C

System Name	natr0n-PC
Processor	Ryzen 5950x-5600x \| 9600k
Motherboard	B450 AORUS M \| Z390 UD
Cooling	EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action \| AIO
Memory	Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) \| Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage	Various
Display(s)	Pixio PX279 Prime
Case	Thermaltake Level 20 VT \| Black bench
Audio Device(s)	LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply	Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W \| EVGA 700 Gold
Software	XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores	http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6

Processor	i9-9900K @ 5.1GHz (H2O Cooled)
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
Cooling	CPU = EK Velocity / GPU = EK Vector
Memory	32GB - G-Skill Trident Z RGB @ 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	AMD RX 6900 XT (H2O Cooled)
Storage	Samsung 860 EVO - 970 EVO - 870 QVO
Display(s)	Samsung QN90A 50" 4K TV & LG 20" 1600x900
Case	Lian Li O11-D
Audio Device(s)	Presonus Studio 192
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2S
Keyboard	Matias RGB Backlit Keyboard
Software	Windows 10 & macOS (Hackintosh)

System Name	Mean machine
Processor	12900k
Motherboard	MSI Unify X
Cooling	Noctua U12A
Memory	7600c34
Video Card(s)	4090 Gamerock oc
Storage	980 pro 2tb
Display(s)	Samsung crg90
Case	Fractal Torent
Audio Device(s)	Hifiman Arya / a30 - d30 pro stack
Power Supply	Be quiet dark power pro 1200
Mouse	Viper ultimate
Keyboard	Blackwidow 65%

System Name	Ghetto Rigs z490\|x99\|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor	10900k w/Optimus Foundation \| 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard	z490 Maximus XII Apex \| x99 Sabertooth
Cooling	oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block \| Blk D15
Memory	Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb \| Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s)	Titan Xp-water \| evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage	970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb \| 860 pro 256gb \| Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb\| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s)	1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case	D450 \| Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply	EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 \| 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse	Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard	G710+x3
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores	Are in the benchmark section

EK Announces Direct Die Cooling for Intel 12th and 13th Gen Core Processors

Vya Domus

natr0n

Eliad Buchnik

VSG

Editor, Reviews & News

skizzo

JustBenching

ThrashZone

ZoneDymo

Totally

MKRonin

The Von Matrices

Solaris17

Super Dainty Moderator

ThrashZone

Chaitanya

Ahhzz

Super Moderator

Durvelle27

Moderator

Solaris17

Super Dainty Moderator

Durvelle27

Moderator

Solaris17

Super Dainty Moderator

Durvelle27

Moderator

ThrashZone

System Name	Cyberline
Processor	Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard	Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling	Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory	Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage	Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s)	Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case	antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s)	Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply	Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse	Elecom EX-G
Keyboard	Rapoo V700
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64bit

System Name	Miami
Processor	Ryzen 3800X
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VII Formula
Cooling	Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover
Memory	F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC
Video Card(s)	XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0
Storage	1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD
Display(s)	DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w
Case	Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
Audio Device(s)	EVGA Nu Audio
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W
Mouse	Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O-
Keyboard	Corsair K95 Platinum
Software	Windows 10 Pro

System Name	My Surround PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
Motherboard	ASUS STRIX X670E-F
Cooling	Swiftech MCP35X / EK Quantum CPU / Alphacool GPU / XSPC 480mm w/ Corsair Fans
Memory	96GB (2 x 48 GB) G.Skill DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim X 24GB
Storage	WD SN850 2TB, Samsung PM981a 1TB, 4 x 4TB + 1 x 10TB HGST NAS HDD for Windows Storage Spaces
Display(s)	2 x Viotek GFI27QXA 27" 4K 120Hz + LG UH850 4K 60Hz + HMD
Case	NZXT Source 530
Audio Device(s)	Sony MDR-7506 / Logitech Z-5500 5.1
Power Supply	Corsair RM1000x 1 kW
Mouse	Patriot Viper V560
Keyboard	Corsair K100
VR HMD	HP Reverb G2
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	Mellanox ConnectX-3 10 Gb/s Fiber Network Card

System Name	RogueOne
Processor	Xeon W9-3495x
Motherboard	ASUS w790E Sage SE
Cooling	SilverStone XE360-4677
Memory	128gb Gskill Zeta R5 DDR5 RDIMMs
Video Card(s)	MSI SUPRIM Liquid X 4090
Storage	1x 2TB WD SN850X \| 2x 8TB GAMMIX S70
Display(s)	49" Philips Evnia OLED (49M2C8900)
Case	Thermaltake Core P3 Pro Snow
Audio Device(s)	Moondrop S8's on schitt Gunnr
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime TX-1600
Mouse	Lamzu Atlantis mini (White)
Keyboard	Monsgeek M3 Lavender, Moondrop Luna lights
VR HMD	Quest 3
Software	Windows 11 Pro Workstation
Benchmark Scores	I dont have time for that.

System Name	OrangeHaze / Silence
Processor	i7-13700KF / i5-10400 /
Motherboard	ROG STRIX Z690-E / MSI Z490 A-Pro Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H75 / TT ToughAir 510
Memory	64Gb GSkill Trident Z5 / 32GB Team Dark Za 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 2070 / Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage	Hynix Plat P41 2Tb\Samsung MZVL21 1Tb / Samsung 980 Pro 1Tb
Display(s)	22" Dell Wide/24" Asus
Case	Lian Li PC-101 ATX custom mod / Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s)	SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply	Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless / Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard	K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software	Win10 Pro \ RIP:Win 7 Ult 64 bit

System Name	Black Prometheus
Processor	\|AMD Ryzen 7 1700
Motherboard	ASRock B550M Pro4\|MSI X370 Gaming PLUS
Cooling	Thermalright PA120 SE \| AMD Stock Cooler
Memory	G.Skill 64GB(2x32GB) 3200MHz \| 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4
Video Card(s)	ASUS DirectCU II R9 290 4GB
Storage	Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB
Display(s)	LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz
Case	DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s)	LG Dolby Atmos 5.1
Power Supply	Corsair RMX850 Fully Modular\| EVGA 750W G2
Mouse	Logitech Trackman
Keyboard	Logitech K350
Software	Windows 10 EDU x64