Intel "Lunar Lake" a Ground-Up Architecture Designed to Dominate the 15W Segment

[watzupken]

And 20% faster when you remove geektrash from the chart. With tunning the ryzen will still be faster with half the power, something that cannot be achieved from the locked toys. And if we speak for efficiency, 35w for 12k points 7950x can make double of this with 35w. Next time when you open your mouth, chech the price, just $2000 for base configuration wih 8core cpu and $2500 for the 10 core version, double of the price of 6900hs laptop with discrete gpu. Imagine to spend so much for such trash

In my opinion, x86 processors generally suffers a steep performance penalty when running on battery. Based on my experience with the M1 MacBook Air, nothing comes close to its battery life at the same price point. The reality is that it runs ARM cores that is unlikely to match high powered chips from AMD or Intel when it comes to pure CPU performance. But it runs basic and specific use cases more efficiently than any x86 processors. For example, when I first used the M1 MBA, basic usage like surfing net and streaming YouTube videos only managed to deplete 3% battery after 2 hours. I also used it for work, using a dual screen setup while running on battery. At the end of 9 hours, it's still got more than 40% battery. So yes, it's slower than my laptop with a R7 5800H in terms of raw processing power, but it is not like its crawling. In fact, it's fast and responsive. The flipside is the soldered RAM and storage which is annoying. I opted for a 512GB version, but would be nice if I can increase the storage on my own. But Apple's being Apple. So nothing new.

 

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In my opinion, x86 processors generally suffers a steep performance penalty when running on battery. Based on my experience with the M1 MacBook Air, nothing comes close to its battery life at the same price point. The reality is that it runs ARM cores that is unlikely to match high powered chips from AMD or Intel when it comes to pure CPU performance. But it runs basic and specific use cases more efficiently than any x86 processors. For example, when I first used the M1 MBA, basic usage like surfing net and streaming YouTube videos only managed to deplete 3% battery after 2 hours. I also used it for work, using a dual screen setup while running on battery. At the end of 9 hours, it's still got more than 40% battery. So yes, it's slower than my laptop with a R7 5800H in terms of raw processing power, but it is not like its crawling. In fact, it's fast and responsive. The flipside is the soldered RAM and storage which is annoying. I opted for a 512GB version, but would be nice if I can increase the storage on my own. But Apple's being Apple. So nothing new.

A workload like the one you are doing consumes roughly 7-8 %/hr of battery, both in the official Apple display and in notebookcheck's WiFi v1.3.

 

[randomUser]

Im pretty sure both intel and amd smack the m1 in both efficiency and performance.

Do you have any proof?
I mean i use MBP M1 as a main machine with external monitor. No problem browsing, no problem programming (web, ios, android), remote desktop, light gaming.
All that (except for gaming) is at around 4-5W of power from the wall (includes hdmi + usbc + usba dongle).
I do not have newest and greatest intel or amd laptops so if you do, then i would like to know how much do they eat at these same tasks. (i have a 3 year old intel ultrabook which is much weaker (lags, compiles longer, unable to game same games) than M1 at all of the tasks while consuming ~10W idle just sitting at desktop)

PS. just so you know, intel ultrabook costs about the same as MBP M1 13"

 

[JustBenching]

Do you have any proof?
I mean i use MBP M1 as a main machine with external monitor. No problem browsing, no problem programming (web, ios, android), remote desktop, light gaming.
All that (except for gaming) is at around 4-5W of power from the wall (includes hdmi + usbc + usba dongle).
I do not have newest and greatest intel or amd laptops so if you do, then i would like to know how much do they eat at these same tasks. (i have a 3 year old intel ultrabook which is much weaker (lags, compiles longer, unable to game same games) than M1 at all of the tasks while consuming ~10W idle just sitting at desktop)

PS. just so you know, intel ultrabook costs about the same as MBP M1 13"

If your intel laptop is pre 12th gen, then yeah those sucked majorly. The newest cpus , even the desktop ones, idle at a couple of watts (2-3). I really have no idea about browsing, i was talking about heavier workloads - in those all the version of the m1 (pro ultra) aren't anything remarkable in terms of efficiency. The latest 13980hx, if some company decides to put in a 35w laptop (instead of 200w desktop replacements) would probably eat the m1 for breakfast in efficiency. Problem isn't the cpus, problem is laptop manafacturers are more focused on extracting maximum performance with oversized heatsinks and turbo fans while pushing the cpus to big power draws.

 

[pavle]

With intel announcing their ultra low power parts for 2024, we can gather that the competition by then will have ultra ultra low power parts, so this announcement becomes void right after its, well announcing.

 

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Do you have any proof?
I mean i use MBP M1 as a main machine with external monitor. No problem browsing, no problem programming (web, ios, android), remote desktop, light gaming.
All that (except for gaming) is at around 4-5W of power from the wall (includes hdmi + usbc + usba dongle).
I do not have newest and greatest intel or amd laptops so if you do, then i would like to know how much do they eat at these same tasks. (i have a 3 year old intel ultrabook which is much weaker (lags, compiles longer, unable to game same games) than M1 at all of the tasks while consuming ~10W idle just sitting at desktop)

PS. just so you know, intel ultrabook costs about the same as MBP M1 13"

According to reviews by Notebookcheck and others, the XPS 13 9315 (9W 1230U) consumes the same power as the M1 MacBook Air and has the same battery life, about 70% of the M1.

Most of the Intel 12gen can be tuned as power consumption down to about 5-6W most of the time, and reduced the maximum power consumption to 15W, if you do the max clock limit. In fact, I used Registry Editor to create this power plan to run my PC with a smartphone charger.

With intel announcing their ultra low power parts for 2024, we can gather that the competition by then will have ultra ultra low power parts, so this announcement becomes void right after its, well announcing.

What is referred to in this article is the architecture, which is Intel's intellectual property and cannot be used by other companies. Why don't you read the article a little before you write it.