RTX 4060 Ti :(

[tvshacker]

To me the only way Nvidia could justify a hypothetical 550$ "MSRP" is if the 4060Ti trades blows with the RX 6800/6800XT (not counting RT), which would be quite a feat for a 160W card, since the RX 6800s seem to be perf/$ "kings" (at current prices) and offer almost top tier perf/W of the cards in the previous generation.

No doubt there will be some AIB models at the 550$ mark as there were 1500$ 4080s, but I believe the 4070 (non-Ti) will be the one on the 600~650$ price range.

As you well know MSRP is meaningless since the mining craze began years ago and it remains meaningless pretty much till this day. If Nvidia does indeed set the MSRP of the RTX 4060 Ti to $550 then you can expect to pay more at retailers.

Allow me to disagree, I can technically get a 3070, 4070Ti, 4080 etc, at near (lauch) MSRP (+VAT), and since Nvidia did not officially announce a price drop for the 3000 series (as was the AMDs case), so MSRP seems to be in full force (again).

 

[64K]

Allow me to disagree, I can technically get a 3070, 4070Ti, 4080 etc, at near (lauch) MSRP (+VAT), and since Nvidia did not officially announce a price drop for the 3000 series (as was the AMDs case), so MSRP seems to be in full force (again).

That statement makes me think you agree with me that MSRP is meaningless more than disagree. I didn't want to spend much time checking prices but I did go onto Amazon and looked at some
4070 Ti and the closest that I found was $840 (w/o sales tax). It was a PNY card. Most of the brands were $100 to $150 over MSRP.

 

[tvshacker]

That statement makes me think you agree with me that MSRP is meaningless more than disagree.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but I initially wrote the sentence focusing just on the 3070, which had a launch 499$ MSRP and the cheapest ones are still being sold near that value (+VAT) where I live .

Do I think it's fair, and should be a common practice that a 2+ year old card hasn't received an "official" price cut?

• No!

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Now for the 4000s

I didn't want to spend much time checking prices

Enjoy:

French MSRP:	Lowest price in Portugal:
Cartes graphiques NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti De nouvelles façons de créer et bien plus encore. www.nvidia.com
Carte graphique NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Pour les joueurs et les créateurs. www.nvidia.com
Carte graphique NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Pour les joueurs et les créateurs. www.nvidia.com

Let's hope China keeps their distance from Taiwan...

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm not happy about the price, but if I can get 3070Ti performance at 160W then it's a big improvement over the offensive amount of power a 3070Ti uses (300W).

I know the 3070Ti is pushed well beyond the efficiency sweet spot, but even tuned to 225W or so, it's a lot more than an untuned 4060Ti if the leaked TDP spec is accurate. I suspect the 4060Ti will perform very well at ~120-130W if that is also tuned slightly for efficiency using afterburner or similar.

As for that rumoured price, Nvidia are greedy but that's nothing new - so not worth getting worked up over. Until we have real competition at the 4060Ti's performance level, the price will be as high as Nvidia think they can get away with. As always, don't buy brand-new products in a vacuum unless you're willing to hand over additional early-adopter tax.

 

[Dirt Chip]

8GB is fine, as this is mainly a FHD minded GPU.
Memory bit and bandwidth is irrelevant as always, just as dia size
160w is good news.
The only deciding factor will be the price. 300$ and more- just let is stay on the store shelves to dust and keep to your current GPU.

 

[evilpaul]

The xx60 series cards have been for people who want to run games at mainstream resolutions (i.e. what the Stream hardware survey says most people are using) at medium-high quality since before you needed two xx's to indicate the GPU generation. If you were super poor, or just extremely casual, you got an xx40 or xx50 and made sure it didn't have an oversized dollop of desktop RAM, instead of GDDRx, stuck on it.

Have you shopped for anything besides computer parts in the past two years? Freedom bucks, European freedom bucks, etc. are only worth about 70% what they used to be worth two years ago. Nvidia is terrible, but that "$300 GPU" will cost you ~$400 from here on out. Such is life. Deal with it.

 

[sn2x]

In terms of price, I think it will be like this when I proportion to the RTX 4070 Ti.
4070 Ti 799$
4070 650-699$
4060 Ti 550-599$

4090 1600$
4080 1200$
4070ti 800$
4070 700$
4060ti 550$

If 4070 performs like a 3080 and 4060 Ti performs like a 3070 then there is no way they would price those cards that high.

Seems more likely they'd price these next couple of cards as follows.

4070: $600
4060 Ti: $400-$450

 

[dom99]

I think I'll be looking at the 4050 when it releases. That's gone from a budget card to a mid range card

 

[AusWolf]

There's a solution, you know... People need to stop enabling these price hikes by not buying overpriced shit that they don't need. Admit it, guys. Last gen, or even the one before is plenty fast already.

 

[Frick]

There's a solution, you know... People need to stop enabling these price hikes by not buying overpriced shit that they don't need. Admit it, guys. Last gen, or even the one before is plenty fast already.

Covid really taught everyone that no price is too high.

 

[AusWolf]

Covid really taught everyone that no price is too high.

The only thing covid taught me is that freedom (as in freedom of movement, or freedom of unrestricted breathing, or freedom of not being scared) is infinitely more valuable than buying stuff that I don't need.

 

[N/A]

Last gen, or even the one before is plenty fast already.

And precisely why 4060 Ti is replacing 3060 ti at the same price/performance. even 4070 is only slightly faster than a 3070 ti at the same price, just a speculation. I don't have the card or nor do I have any info.

 

[Tropick]

There's a solution, you know... People need to stop enabling these price hikes by not buying overpriced shit that they don't need. Admit it, guys. Last gen, or even the one before is plenty fast already.

I always try to wait to buy until the end of the generation when everything is on discount. Vote with your wallet, if you don't like the price, wait until you do before buying it. AMD/Nvidia are able to see when product sells at a certain price. If they see a majority of stock being moved when it's on discount, they'll be more inclined to keep prices down.

 

[tvshacker]

And precisely why 4060 Ti is replacing 3060 ti at the same price/performance. even 4070 is only slightly faster than a 3070 ti at the same price

That makes no sense, it would leave a MASSIVE performance gap between the 4070 and the 4070Ti...
So massive that currently there are at least 3 SKUs between the 3070Ti and the 4070Ti (~3090Ti): 3080, 3080Ti and 3090.

 

[AnotherReader]

That statement makes me think you agree with me that MSRP is meaningless more than disagree. I didn't want to spend much time checking prices but I did go onto Amazon and looked at some
4070 Ti and the closest that I found was $840 (w/o sales tax). It was a PNY card. Most of the brands were $100 to $150 over MSRP.

There's one 4070 Ti in the USA that is in stock and is being sold for MSRP. Unfortunately, Newegg is charging shipping for it though 10 dollars on 800 is hardly a deal breaker.

 

[N/A]

Interesting Im seeing a different image 849 /w free shipping, it's going up in price since yesterday 799.

That makes no sense, it would leave a MASSIVE performance gap between the 4070 and the 4070Ti...

they had a bunch of undistinguishable SKUS 3080 10/12/Ti and 90 that were too close within 10%.

I stand corrected, 70 nonTi is a 3080. but if it drops as much as 10% because of the narrow bus and 64 rops in some game, I would deem it too close to 3070 to be considered a big leap. impatiently waiting for real tests..

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

These card were supposed to be priced to get people to buy the older generation RTX 3,000 cards that were sitting on shelfs right?
The stock of RTX 3,000 have declined rapidly, also becoming very hard to find. Yet these RTX 4,000 series pricings still exisit with no change?

 

[AusWolf]

These card were supposed to be priced to get people to buy the older generation RTX 3,000 cards that were sitting on shelfs right?
The stock of RTX 3,000 have declined rapidly, also becoming very hard to find. Yet these RTX 4,000 series pricings still exisit with no change?

There will be no change as long as people buy them.

I think Gamer's Nexus did an analysis on chip size, costs, and the deducted profit margins not long ago. The money Nvidia is making on current gen is ridiculous.